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does this bother anybody else?
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rii namuras - Posts: 502
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[quote="mai"]I'm really sorry if this sounds rude, but, last time I checked, it wasn't your face that determined your gender -_-]
Perhaps, but other ways are often quite inappropriate.
It's interesting that in places the Bible hasn't been preached that you see more gender blur
Perhaps, but other ways are often quite inappropriate.
It's interesting that in places the Bible hasn't been preached that you see more gender blur
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Shao Feng-Li wrote:Perhaps, but other ways are often quite inappropriate.
It's interesting that in places the Bible hasn't been preached that you see more gender blur
>.> Have you been to Europe?
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No... <.<
Well, even here in the US the blur is getting bigger... But that's not my point (don't wanna start anything)
Well, even here in the US the blur is getting bigger... But that's not my point (don't wanna start anything)
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All I meant was that I know guys who were born with more "feminine" facial features.
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This is something I don't get at all o__O
What's there to have a problem with? A guy looks like a girl. So what? Does that make him somehow a horrible person that you would 'have a problem' with? Does his appearance in some way detract from him?
What's there to have a problem with? A guy looks like a girl. So what? Does that make him somehow a horrible person that you would 'have a problem' with? Does his appearance in some way detract from him?
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ducheval wrote:This is something I don't get at all o__O
What's there to have a problem with? A guy looks like a girl. So what? Does that make him somehow a horrible person that you would 'have a problem' with? Does his appearance in some way detract from him?
That’s what I'm wondering. It bothers me if a guy purposely looks like a girl for sexual reasons, but if he just naturally looks/acts "girly" he is still very much a man and there is nothing wrong with that. If a manga-ka draws characters like that it's just personal taste. The main point to me is intent, if the author says it’s a guy or a girl then that’s what matters.
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carneman wrote:when the guys, even in shonen manga, look like girls? why do they do that?
It dosent bother me at all o.o...Because i know they are boys and its just the drawer's fault it will only bother me if they are Gay. Because i will refuse to read any Yoai Comic.
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ducheval wrote:This is something I don't get at all o__O
What's there to have a problem with? A guy looks like a girl. So what? Does that make him somehow a horrible person that you would 'have a problem' with? Does his appearance in some way detract from him?
I think something that we need to remeber here is that we're talking about fake people...these characters don't actually exist. If the appearance of a character did detract from the character himself, *coughcoughKamataricough* then the reader is free to think and/or say whatever he or she wants to about the character. It's not a real person]were[/i] a real person who felt hurt or angered by comments like these, but...it's not...so I really don't think it should be such a big issue...^_^;
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Not at all. Some of the characters can be fairly shallow or waay over-rated (the Sesshamarou dude is a perfect example) but it's just a character.
Haha, I may be twisted but Kamatari from Kenshin was one of my more favorite Kenshin characters (aside from Yumi, Shishio, Sanosuke, Tomoe, and Gein).
Haha, I may be twisted but Kamatari from Kenshin was one of my more favorite Kenshin characters (aside from Yumi, Shishio, Sanosuke, Tomoe, and Gein).
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I think it's mainly fan-service, and in some cases comic relief? (Like Kazuki from Get Backers 
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It bothered me at first, but after awhile I got used to it. That's just there culture, but I do stay away from manga with predominently homosexual themese, but I think the Japanese are just more accepting of that.
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Eh...that's a good question...I guess it really depends on the manga. For example, if the character is gay and looks feminine, I would say so myself...but if the character is feminine because of the artist's style, then no.
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Nah, I don't care. XD
I'm one of the guilty ones who thinks it's cute.
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It doesn't bother me most of the time, unless it's to the point to where it actually confuses me or it's because the character is homo- or bisexual.
Manliness should really be defined by what it is, not by what it is not. I think that it's kind of dumb when guys are considered less of men because they have some effeminate traits. For example, my sister happens to think that Scottish kilts are "just wrong" because skirts are culturally assigned to women. I'd rather use the Bible as a guide to right and wrong rather than what's popular now.
Manliness should really be defined by what it is, not by what it is not. I think that it's kind of dumb when guys are considered less of men because they have some effeminate traits. For example, my sister happens to think that Scottish kilts are "just wrong" because skirts are culturally assigned to women. I'd rather use the Bible as a guide to right and wrong rather than what's popular now.
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carneman wrote:when the guys, even in shonen manga, look like girls? why do they do that?
They want them all to look like hermaphrodites? I dunno?
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Chii wrote:I'm not sure, but we girls need more manly lookin' characters!
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*cringe*
personally, I'm one who finds that buff guys are gross. Bleh. >.<
but i do love:
A. Nerdy boys
B. Cute girlier boys.
yoop.
notice those guys have no muscles what-so-ever. XD
personally, I'm one who finds that buff guys are gross. Bleh. >.<
but i do love:
A. Nerdy boys
B. Cute girlier boys.
yoop.
notice those guys have no muscles what-so-ever. XD
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Heh, in the real world, you'd hope they'd never need to protect you, but in manga, they're so strong XD
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for example...Fruits Basket's Yuki Sohma incredibly slender but can send ppl flying......and looks kinda like a girl. The guys in the manga have told him if he was a girl they "wouldn't leave him alone"
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chibiphonebooth wrote:*cringe*
personally, I'm one who finds that buff guys are gross. Bleh. >.<
but i do love:
A. Nerdy boys
B. Cute girlier boys.
yoop.
notice those guys have no muscles what-so-ever. XD
I agree 100% with this post.
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i find it quite unusual that many male characters look so feminine. it sorta annoys me since i've mistaken many male characters to be female and then when i find out that i was wrong.
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jon_jinn wrote:i find it quite unusual that many male characters look so feminine. it sorta annoys me since i've mistaken many male characters to be female and then when i find out that i was wrong.
Then there are the trap-chans like Jun from Happiness and Mizuho from Otome Wa Boku Koi Shiteru.
How did they look more pretty then the real girls.
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It's very much a cultural thing. Japanese girls tend to dig girly-looking guys.
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It bothers me greatly. I lose lots of sleep over it. (lol)
But seriously - I find bishies to be overly feminine. This is degrading to males. I'm not saying guys need to be the macho sort, but the guy is meant to be the leader, the warrior, and respect everyone and get respect in return.
Bishies are wrong on so many levels.
But seriously - I find bishies to be overly feminine. This is degrading to males. I'm not saying guys need to be the macho sort, but the guy is meant to be the leader, the warrior, and respect everyone and get respect in return.
Bishies are wrong on so many levels.
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And all stereotypes are OK, regardless of wether they're true or not.
...
From the little manga I've read, there *are* a few out there with "manly girls." In fact, I'm trying to think of a Takahashi manga/anime that doesn't have at least one manly girl...
And all stereotypes are OK, regardless of wether they're true or not.
...
From the little manga I've read, there *are* a few out there with "manly girls." In fact, I'm trying to think of a Takahashi manga/anime that doesn't have at least one manly girl...
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Hey, there are some manly looking women out there in manga/anime. Anybody remember VT from Cowboy Bebop?
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