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Postby rii namuras » Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:19 am

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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:27 pm

[quote="mai"]I'm really sorry if this sounds rude, but, last time I checked, it wasn't your face that determined your gender -_-]

Perhaps, but other ways are often quite inappropriate.

It's interesting that in places the Bible hasn't been preached that you see more gender blur
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Postby Debitt » Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:42 pm

Shao Feng-Li wrote:Perhaps, but other ways are often quite inappropriate.

It's interesting that in places the Bible hasn't been preached that you see more gender blur

>.> Have you been to Europe?
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:46 pm

No... <.<

Well, even here in the US the blur is getting bigger... But that's not my point (don't wanna start anything)
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Postby mai » Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:01 pm

All I meant was that I know guys who were born with more "feminine" facial features.
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Postby ducheval » Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:33 pm

This is something I don't get at all o__O

What's there to have a problem with? A guy looks like a girl. So what? Does that make him somehow a horrible person that you would 'have a problem' with? Does his appearance in some way detract from him?
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Postby mai » Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:38 pm

ducheval wrote:This is something I don't get at all o__O

What's there to have a problem with? A guy looks like a girl. So what? Does that make him somehow a horrible person that you would 'have a problem' with? Does his appearance in some way detract from him?


That’s what I'm wondering. It bothers me if a guy purposely looks like a girl for sexual reasons, but if he just naturally looks/acts "girly" he is still very much a man and there is nothing wrong with that. If a manga-ka draws characters like that it's just personal taste. The main point to me is intent, if the author says it’s a guy or a girl then that’s what matters.
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Postby Reba » Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:39 pm

carneman wrote:when the guys, even in shonen manga, look like girls? why do they do that?



It dosent bother me at all o.o...Because i know they are boys and its just the drawer's fault it will only bother me if they are Gay. Because i will refuse to read any Yoai Comic.
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:44 pm

ducheval wrote:This is something I don't get at all o__O

What's there to have a problem with? A guy looks like a girl. So what? Does that make him somehow a horrible person that you would 'have a problem' with? Does his appearance in some way detract from him?


I think something that we need to remeber here is that we're talking about fake people...these characters don't actually exist. If the appearance of a character did detract from the character himself, *coughcoughKamataricough* then the reader is free to think and/or say whatever he or she wants to about the character. It's not a real person]were[/i] a real person who felt hurt or angered by comments like these, but...it's not...so I really don't think it should be such a big issue...^_^;
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Postby Myoti » Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:50 am

The game: Chrono Trigger.

The character: Flea.

'Nuff said. =p
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Postby Hitokiri » Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:30 pm

Not at all. Some of the characters can be fairly shallow or waay over-rated (the Sesshamarou dude is a perfect example) but it's just a character.

Haha, I may be twisted but Kamatari from Kenshin was one of my more favorite Kenshin characters (aside from Yumi, Shishio, Sanosuke, Tomoe, and Gein).
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Postby εïз*Pixie*εÃ¯з » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:06 pm

I think it's mainly fan-service, and in some cases comic relief? (Like Kazuki from Get Backers :P )
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Postby Chii » Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:16 pm

I'm not sure, but we girls need more manly lookin' characters!
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Postby shojoiscool2 » Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:07 pm

It bothered me at first, but after awhile I got used to it. That's just there culture, but I do stay away from manga with predominently homosexual themese, but I think the Japanese are just more accepting of that.
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Postby Phantom_Sorano » Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:49 pm

Eh...that's a good question...I guess it really depends on the manga. For example, if the character is gay and looks feminine, I would say so myself...but if the character is feminine because of the artist's style, then no.
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Postby Mave » Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:31 pm

Chii wrote:I'm not sure, but we girls need more manly lookin' characters!


There's something called American comics. The last time I checked, most male characters there look pretty manly. ;)
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Postby Heart of Sword » Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:35 pm

Nah, I don't care. XD

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Postby Rhenao » Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:08 am

It doesn't bother me most of the time, unless it's to the point to where it actually confuses me or it's because the character is homo- or bisexual.

Manliness should really be defined by what it is, not by what it is not. I think that it's kind of dumb when guys are considered less of men because they have some effeminate traits. For example, my sister happens to think that Scottish kilts are "just wrong" because skirts are culturally assigned to women. I'd rather use the Bible as a guide to right and wrong rather than what's popular now.
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Postby memmer66 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:49 pm

carneman wrote:when the guys, even in shonen manga, look like girls? why do they do that?


They want them all to look like hermaphrodites? I dunno? :grin:
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Postby Hitokiri » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:19 am

Chii wrote:I'm not sure, but we girls need more manly lookin' characters!


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Postby chibiphonebooth » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:35 am

*cringe*

personally, I'm one who finds that buff guys are gross. Bleh. >.<

but i do love:
A. Nerdy boys
B. Cute girlier boys.

yoop.

notice those guys have no muscles what-so-ever. XD
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:34 pm

Heh, in the real world, you'd hope they'd never need to protect you, but in manga, they're so strong XD
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Postby Riyo-Chan » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:35 pm

for example...Fruits Basket's Yuki Sohma :P incredibly slender but can send ppl flying......and looks kinda like a girl. The guys in the manga have told him if he was a girl they "wouldn't leave him alone"
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Postby Rhenao » Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:42 pm

chibiphonebooth wrote:*cringe*

personally, I'm one who finds that buff guys are gross. Bleh. >.<

but i do love:
A. Nerdy boys
B. Cute girlier boys.

yoop.

notice those guys have no muscles what-so-ever. XD


I agree 100% with this post. :lol:
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Postby jon_jinn » Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:53 pm

i find it quite unusual that many male characters look so feminine. it sorta annoys me since i've mistaken many male characters to be female and then when i find out that i was wrong.
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Postby JayF » Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:11 pm

jon_jinn wrote:i find it quite unusual that many male characters look so feminine. it sorta annoys me since i've mistaken many male characters to be female and then when i find out that i was wrong.



Then there are the trap-chans like Jun from Happiness and Mizuho from Otome Wa Boku Koi Shiteru.

How did they look more pretty then the real girls.
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Postby Raiden no Kishi » Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:35 am

It's very much a cultural thing. Japanese girls tend to dig girly-looking guys.

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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:44 am

It bothers me greatly. I lose lots of sleep over it. (lol)
But seriously - I find bishies to be overly feminine. This is degrading to males. I'm not saying guys need to be the macho sort, but the guy is meant to be the leader, the warrior, and respect everyone and get respect in return.
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Postby Mithrandir » Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:44 am

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And all stereotypes are OK, regardless of wether they're true or not.

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From the little manga I've read, there *are* a few out there with "manly girls." In fact, I'm trying to think of a Takahashi manga/anime that doesn't have at least one manly girl...
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Postby Doe Johnson » Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:11 am

Hey, there are some manly looking women out there in manga/anime. Anybody remember VT from Cowboy Bebop?
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