Mr. SmartyPants (post: 1312776) wrote:What I love most about the MBTI is the Cognitive Functional Analysis that applies to each personality type. http://typelogic.com/ is a GREAT tool for a helpful rundown of these.
http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/index.html Is also a very helpful website that outlines each function.
Cognitive Gear (post: 1312786) wrote:Hurm. Your second link does not seem to work.
Anyways, the information in your first link seems to be about 50% accurate in describing me. (as an INTJ) I don't expect it to be 100% accurate, but I would generally expect it to be better than it is.
The pieces that are accurate are spot-on, though.
Q: Why does my INTJ keep correcting my grammar?
A: Probably because you are being grammatically incorrect. The next time you tell your INTJ that you’re going to “try and [do something]”, prepare to get slapped. It’s “try to”, not “try and”. And there’s no such word as “irregardless”. Words have specific meanings, and language has specific rules; please abide by them. And don’t even get us started on your contextually ambiguous use of pronouns.
Radical Dreamer (post: 1313075) wrote:I feel completely vindicated. XDDD
Radical Dreamer (post: 1313075) wrote:I feel completely vindicated. XDDD
Mr. SmartyPants wrote:The NP (aka Extroverted Intuition) inside of me says that grammar is totally arbitrary because it's only defined by fallible human beings.
So why abide by them? It's like sheet and comforters. Why do we have to use both? Cause our own fallible society has dictated it as such?
It's nothing but an OPPRESSIVE POWER THAT IS TRYING TO CONTROL US. Who said that sheet and comforter is the "correct" way to do things? Why can't I just do things my way without being seen weird? I hate sheets! But noooooo, the norm is to do it this way, so therefore it's right! It's nothing but circular logic! They're "right" because they're "right".
Norms are all but social constructs.
Society is dumb.
uc pseudonym (post: 1313215) wrote:The function of language itself is to communicate with others. For that purpose, a socially accepted standard is absolutely necessary. Grammar and spelling are integral to meaningful communication, because without them there is no rules to govern the reception of thoughts, merely everyone speaking and communicating nothing.
Are grammar rules absolute? Hardly, and they've changed a great deal over time. I don't think there's any reason why we couldn't adopt "their" as a singular, giving English a much needed gender neutral. But in the interest of speaking and being understood, it is helpful to conform to given standards of acceptability.
Mr. SmartyPants (post: 1313295) wrote:Our third letters are T and F
T: Thinking - We make decisions based off of rational thought.
F: Feeling - We make decisions based off of emotion.
Tereya (post: 1313394) wrote:If I may, I'd like to (hopefully) clarify a bit on this point.
I don't think it's so much that Thinkers make decisions based on rational thought and Feelers make decisions based on emotion, as it is that they each use different criteria to draw conclusions about a given situation.
Thinkers are more likely to make a decision based on objective standards or principles, whereas Feelers tend to place more emphasis on the subjective circumstances surrounding a situation. For example, say a certain professor was grading an essay handed in by one of their students. If they were a Thinker, they'd be more likely to grade the essay based on objective criteria, such as a rubric or otherwise predefined set of requirements. A Feeler would be more likely to deduct or award points based on the amount of time and care a student put into the essay even though they might not have met every single requirement.
Of course, that's not to say that the difference between the two preferences is black and white. Most individuals would probably take both sets of criteria into account, but lean slightly more towards one than the other.
Also I am an MBTI-obsessed INFJ. :}
Radical Dreamer (post: 1313401) wrote:One thing I think we need to be careful of here, when determining personality types, is not to peg others under a label that does not allow them to act any other way. The problem I see with the Meyers-Briggs system, when used improperly, is that people read these write-ups on their projected personality and take it as who they're supposed to be, and they use it almost as an excuse to act a certain way.
For instance, I'm an INTJ by this test, and according to one of those links you posted, Ryan, I'm supposed to be an insufferable jerk who thinks too highly of herself and hates being around people (jokingly as it was stated within the link]
Well you're not wrong. Course not. Nobody has argued otherwise.
People need to realize that the MBTI does not work for behavior. It is for cognition. There is a big difference between the two. It's not what you do, but how you mentally process things. Granted some people's behaviors reflect their cognition, but others may choose to act differently (due to other factors such as upbringing, priming, etc).
Even in your response, you exhibit the same way that a TJ would think! Careful scrutinization for an accurate estimation of validity is indeed an NTJ trait (i.e."Okay, it's an interesting idea. Now does it work and if so, how much?"). From what I experienced, Js tend to think in black and white. Ps focus a whole lot more on the grey (pastabilities!) A P and a J both agree on a similar point but may think that they are in disagreement because of their methods of communication of an idea. XD Ps and Js leave some things out (but mentally note them!) and other things are said. That can lead to confusion. =p I noticed this with one of my friends. We were discussing something and it seemed like we were in disagreement. But in the end we were like "Why are we even arguing if we're both agreeing?"
And some people are higher in each separate letter than others. I'm a very low E, borderline I. However, I have a high P-score. Two of my other ENFP friends are extreme E's. While we're all ENFPs, we each behave very differently. Likewise, I'm going to bet that Corrie has a low T, whereas another friend of mine has a much higher T score.
You may not be a jerk (Or you may but don't realize it =p) but I have two INTJ friends who have a very grandiose sense of self. Do the they two positively correlate? I think very much so. They both don't realize how standoffish they can be.Danderson (post: 1313397) wrote:Supposedly I'm INFP...it's pretty acurate...as others have said...very scary...
I guess this makes me the Healer (like that guy from Lady in the Water...SWEET!!!)
I noticed most of the ppl at CAA who've done this are supposedly more Introvert then extravert....find this interesting....But I'm going to guess this isn't entirly accurate...
For example, though supposedly I'm an introvert, I still talk to alot of ppl in real life on a regular basis, but if I had to choose between the two that my personality tends to hide in, I'd say introvert...
Mr. SmartyPants (post: 1313437) wrote:Well you're not wrong. Course not. Nobody has argued otherwise.
People need to realize that the MBTI does not work for behavior. It is for cognition. There is a big difference between the two. It's not what you do, but how you mentally process things. Granted some people's behaviors reflect their cognition, but others may choose to act differently (due to other factors such as upbringing, priming, etc).
Even in your response, you exhibit the same way that a TJ would think! Careful scrutinization for an accurate estimation of validity is indeed an NTJ trait (i.e."Okay, it's an interesting idea. Now does it work and if so, how much?"). From what I experienced, Js tend to think in black and white. Ps focus a whole lot more on the grey (pastabilities!) A P and a J both agree on a similar point but may think that they are in disagreement because of their methods of communication of an idea. XD Ps and Js leave some things out (but mentally note them!) and other things are said. That can lead to confusion. =p I noticed this with one of my friends. We were discussing something and it seemed like we were in disagreement. But in the end we were like "Why are we even arguing if we're both agreeing?"
And some people are higher in each separate letter than others. I'm a very low E, borderline I. However, I have a high P-score. Two of my other ENFP friends are extreme E's. While we're all ENFPs, we each behave very differently. Likewise, I'm going to bet that Corrie has a low T, whereas another friend of mine has a much higher T score.
You may not be a jerk (Or you may but don't realize it =p) but I have two INTJ friends who have a very grandiose sense of self. Do the they two positively correlate? I think very much so. They both don't realize how standoffish they can be.
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