I was finally able to announce my Bible study and this week we had six people, which was good because last week we had 4, but i have problems i mean i know that what i beleive is right and i have stood by it.
Today i was in a debate, not like a fighting debate, just me and this girl talked and she was raised Catholic and now she doesnt beleive in anything because the way that they acted and all that but her and this guy from my school does not beleive in there being a heaven or hell and we talked about it and im fine with them persecuting me or what ever because i know that "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake" but i was trying my best to convince them, without you know turning them off from listening and as i write this there is so much more i could have said but i didnt i mean they were like nothing happens after you die and all i said was we will see and i didnt say it loud enough for them to hear and i didnt say it meanly, but i mean i could have said like well are you sure? but i mean i really dont know what to do honestly the girl was bringing up some good things but i knew they werent true and all that but i really on the verge of crying i feel guilty i didnt say something else i felt like at the time i had said all i could i mean i dont want to like force my beleifs on them but yet i want them to get saved what do i do?
But the Bible study is really great thanks for your prayers now i ask to pray for those two i only know the guys name its Jarred, but the girls i am not sure of but anyways please pray for them.
I think i am getting through to my friend Dana by talking to her and maybe also Jamie, but please pray for them and all of my friends and aquaintences ect thanks
God bless
Heather Lea
Oh Lord i need prayer ya'll
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I'll pray for you, MA4J. I know how hard it is to come up with all the right answers on the spot-- especially when someone has an argument that they've probably spent most of their life developing, and you're supposed to be able to shoot it down in one conversation? That's tough! What I would suggest is that you pray before you start every day that God will give you the answers you need when you need them, and that you will have the courage to give them. Also, do you know any other strong Christians in your school? I'm sure it would help you out immensely in situations like these to have someone else there trying to help answer these questions.
Be Thou my Vision, O Lord of my heart;
Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art
Thou my best Thought, by day or by night,
Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light.
Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word;
I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord;
Thou my great Father, I Thy true son;
Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one.
Be Thou my battle Shield, Sword for the fight;
Be Thou my Dignity, Thou my Delight;
Thou my soul’s Shelter, Thou my high Tower:
Raise Thou me heavenward, O Power of my power.
Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise,
Thou mine Inheritance, now and always:
Thou and Thou only, first in my heart,
High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art.
High King of Heaven, my victory won,
May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heaven’s Sun!
Heart of my own heart, whatever befall,
Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all.
Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art
Thou my best Thought, by day or by night,
Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light.
Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word;
I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord;
Thou my great Father, I Thy true son;
Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one.
Be Thou my battle Shield, Sword for the fight;
Be Thou my Dignity, Thou my Delight;
Thou my soul’s Shelter, Thou my high Tower:
Raise Thou me heavenward, O Power of my power.
Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise,
Thou mine Inheritance, now and always:
Thou and Thou only, first in my heart,
High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art.
High King of Heaven, my victory won,
May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heaven’s Sun!
Heart of my own heart, whatever befall,
Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all.
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Yumie - Posts: 1939
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Thanks 4 the prayer and encouragement, I just feel guilty i mean i dont even know why but i honestly dont know any strong Christians in my school i mean except my teacher Barry and our disipline guy Monte.
I dont know any Christian students the ones that are came to the youth group thing (i have to call it that to advertise it) and they arent really strong in their faith, but they have been going through some junk in their lives, i mean i shared my testimony and all of that i think i made an impact i pray i did ...
I dont know any Christian students the ones that are came to the youth group thing (i have to call it that to advertise it) and they arent really strong in their faith, but they have been going through some junk in their lives, i mean i shared my testimony and all of that i think i made an impact i pray i did ...
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Artist4Jesus89 - Posts: 550
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I'll be praying for all that, because as Yumie says, it IS hard to come up with these answers right on the spot and all.
神 は、 その 独り 子 を お与え に なった ほど に 世 お愛 された。
独り 子 を 信じる 者 が 一人 も滅 ひない で, 永遠 の 命 お得る ため で ある。
ヨハネ 3:16
独り 子 を 信じる 者 が 一人 も滅 ひない で, 永遠 の 命 お得る ため で ある。
ヨハネ 3:16
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Don't sweat converting anybody just yet. I think that you should focus on creating an environment where people aren't so defensive and argumentative. That might just mean talking about "stuff" and maybe checking out how the bible deals with a problem. Keep away from hot button issues like sex, abortion, etc. Maybe stay more distant. Debates are not productive, since each attendee has grossly different backgrounds, so they are armed differently (that is, not fair).
Well, so someone in your class doesn't believe in Heaven or Hell. OK, work with that. Ask whether the person believes in an afterlife at all. Why or why not? Jesus really spends most of His time talking about living in the kingdom of God right now, and not so much on the afterlife. A heaven as a place is not so much a concept of the Old Testament at all. Your reward for a righteous life was blessings from God now, not later. We should similarly be serving God now, not because of a "promised reward", but because it is the right thing to do (our duty). Maybe Jesus didn't dwell so much on the afterlife because we weren't supposed to worry about it too much.
Instead of taking an opposing viewpoint, keep questioning and pulling that thread. You might find more fertile discussion ground farther down.
Well, so someone in your class doesn't believe in Heaven or Hell. OK, work with that. Ask whether the person believes in an afterlife at all. Why or why not? Jesus really spends most of His time talking about living in the kingdom of God right now, and not so much on the afterlife. A heaven as a place is not so much a concept of the Old Testament at all. Your reward for a righteous life was blessings from God now, not later. We should similarly be serving God now, not because of a "promised reward", but because it is the right thing to do (our duty). Maybe Jesus didn't dwell so much on the afterlife because we weren't supposed to worry about it too much.
Instead of taking an opposing viewpoint, keep questioning and pulling that thread. You might find more fertile discussion ground farther down.
"Those who believe will be saved...so they say. Get it?"
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Yes, I wouldn't count this as "persecute", " persecute" is if they are trying hard to get you to stop and trying to convince you 100% that you're wrong and all...I believe.
Anyways, like the others said, stay off "hot buttons", and just be a friend.
I peronally would go to topics like God not being dead an the things He's STILL ( because He doesn't change ) doing in peoples lives, however, we are to " lean not unto our own understanding" and as Paul states, depend on how the Spirit and not on human wisdom when ministering to people.
ANYWAYS, glad God made the ministry successful. I'll be praying sista!
Anyways, like the others said, stay off "hot buttons", and just be a friend.
I peronally would go to topics like God not being dead an the things He's STILL ( because He doesn't change ) doing in peoples lives, however, we are to " lean not unto our own understanding" and as Paul states, depend on how the Spirit and not on human wisdom when ministering to people.
ANYWAYS, glad God made the ministry successful. I'll be praying sista!
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Ryupower wrote:Yes, I wouldn't count this as "persecute", " persecute" is if they are trying hard to get you to stop and trying to convince you 100% that you're wrong and all...I believe.
yeah what started it all of was her saying she absolutely HATES Christians with a passion and she knew i was a Christian when she said it right in front of me and said we caused the dark ages and such -_-' gosh im sorry but most of the stuff she said after i talked to my YPs lol they just seem stupid and pointless and un scientific oh well thanks for the prayers please keep them coming
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Manga_Artist_4_Jesus wrote:yeah what started it all of was her saying she absolutely HATES Christians with a passion and she knew i was a Christian when she said it right in front of me and said we caused the dark ages and such -_-' gosh im sorry but most of the stuff she said after i talked to my YPs lol they just seem stupid and pointless and un scientific oh well thanks for the prayers please keep them coming
OK. And yeah, that sounds....ouch. O.o
should I edit that post?Sorry. PRAYING!
EDIT: thanks MA4J! ^^
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Ryupower wrote:OK. And yeah, that sounds....ouch. O.o
should I edit that post?Sorry. PRAYING!
no its cool i forgot to add that so lol its all good
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Artist4Jesus89 - Posts: 550
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Ok here we go i have a praise report!!!!
Okay well i was talking to Jamie and Dana the other day and Jamie said if she has no work she would come to the youth group meeting, and Dana too. please pray they do come and that God touches them i mean they are agnostic but i really really really need prayer for them and also maybe if they come then maybe Megan (the girl i got into a debate with which btw is quite nice me and her get along well really ^^;) so please pray the prayers are helping alot THANKS!!!
Okay well i was talking to Jamie and Dana the other day and Jamie said if she has no work she would come to the youth group meeting, and Dana too. please pray they do come and that God touches them i mean they are agnostic but i really really really need prayer for them and also maybe if they come then maybe Megan (the girl i got into a debate with which btw is quite nice me and her get along well really ^^;) so please pray the prayers are helping alot THANKS!!!
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Artist4Jesus89 - Posts: 550
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God is awesome!
OOOHkay guess what! well i had i think it was 7 or 8 people today and it went great even Jamie and Dana came and we got pizza and anyways God was really moving there and thanks for your prayers i am soo happy i know that they are gonna get saved also pray that when i get hecklers cause i somewhat had one today but he wasnt really bad i just need the patience to deal with them and the ability to thanks again
heather lea
heather lea
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Artist4Jesus89 - Posts: 550
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You got pizza? Man, all I ever get at my class is a doughnut. Of course it is on sunday morning. Not that I wouldn't eat pizza on Sunday morning if it was offered.
The occassional heckler is a good thing. Without their example, the good people wouldn't know how NOT to act. Plus it's great training for you for later. Someday you'll look back and think "I've heard all this before" and have a calm response all ready.
The occassional heckler is a good thing. Without their example, the good people wouldn't know how NOT to act. Plus it's great training for you for later. Someday you'll look back and think "I've heard all this before" and have a calm response all ready.
"Those who believe will be saved...so they say. Get it?"
Sister Rosette Christopher
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SP1 - Posts: 861
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(grammar police) Well after i wrote this i was about to text my YP wifey and tell her because after i lost my cell i found it last night and i look for my purse... someone stole it when i accidently left it upstairs afterwards please please please pary that they get caught and that i at least find my purse i mean it had my Bible tracts in it man i think that is messed up and also that i had al my sonic cards i was selling and 40 dollars now i know that my cell and my money is prolly gone bye bye but that isnt it i dont care im getting a new one it was just a tract phone and i can get more of everything i had in it its just the fact that someone stole my purse ... i mean hello personal property! gosh i dont know im sick of this junk even tonight somone stole offering at church!!! that is even worse than stealing from just a regular person i mean that is stealing from GOD!! so pray 4 them i dont care if i get the money or cellie back i just want them to get saved and to get back my purse and Bible tracts i mean i allerted like all the advisors and the on duty cop and what not and they and i even looked through the surveylence (sp?) cameras.... still nothing ... idk please pray tho
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Artist4Jesus89 - Posts: 550
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Pardon my punctuation i wrote this in an email to my bestest friend!
OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH ......OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH ... *takes breath* ... OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH
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ok im done... OH MY GOSH ok NOW im done lol GUESS WHAT when Delbert (assistant pastor) came to school today it was tight he talked to like 3 people and OH MY GOSH we had 10 people then one left cause her mom was coming to get her and OH MY GOSH it was awesome like 2 guys came, and dana came and it was AWESOME and like when he was preaching a salvation message i mean he was going to have a discussion thing but we had very little time left but some guy named Matt came up in the middle of the sermon thing (pray people will come again next week btw but we are starting a new time were starting at like 11:15 or 11:20 but anyways back to this guy anyways umm afterwards he was talking to Delbert and Pat (my Friends dad) and like he is going to help me with the youth group we are gonig to meet together and pray and stuff it is going to be AWESOME!!!!!!! LIKE OH MY GOSH and lets see... that one guy named dillion and some other chick came and AAAAAAAAAAAH GOD IS SOOO GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH an dnow i have someone helping me with the youth group i wont be the only one and it will be a relief and guess what he goes to life church in edmond eeeeeeeeeek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM SO HAPPY i texted Jonathan (pastors son) and i told him about it too he was not that excited lol i mean maybe he was but he was like ... thats cool ...
^______________^ O_________________________O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok im done... OH MY GOSH ok NOW im done lol GUESS WHAT when Delbert (assistant pastor) came to school today it was tight he talked to like 3 people and OH MY GOSH we had 10 people then one left cause her mom was coming to get her and OH MY GOSH it was awesome like 2 guys came, and dana came and it was AWESOME and like when he was preaching a salvation message i mean he was going to have a discussion thing but we had very little time left but some guy named Matt came up in the middle of the sermon thing (pray people will come again next week btw but we are starting a new time were starting at like 11:15 or 11:20 but anyways back to this guy anyways umm afterwards he was talking to Delbert and Pat (my Friends dad) and like he is going to help me with the youth group we are gonig to meet together and pray and stuff it is going to be AWESOME!!!!!!! LIKE OH MY GOSH and lets see... that one guy named dillion and some other chick came and AAAAAAAAAAAH GOD IS SOOO GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH an dnow i have someone helping me with the youth group i wont be the only one and it will be a relief and guess what he goes to life church in edmond eeeeeeeeeek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM SO HAPPY i texted Jonathan (pastors son) and i told him about it too he was not that excited lol i mean maybe he was but he was like ... thats cool ...
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Artist4Jesus89 - Posts: 550
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Seriously...how do you REALLY feel about it? I wouldn't suppose that this new (male) helper is a bit the hottie.
Glad it's working out well. Did you ever find your purse?
Glad it's working out well. Did you ever find your purse?
"Those who believe will be saved...so they say. Get it?"
Sister Rosette Christopher
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SP1 - Posts: 861
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SP1 wrote:Seriously...how do you REALLY feel about it? I wouldn't suppose that this new (male) helper is a bit the hottie.
Glad it's working out well. Did you ever find your purse?
<_< ... >_> is it THAT obvious?
<_< my bad ppl lol anyways yeah i havent found my purse but its cool lol-
Artist4Jesus89 - Posts: 550
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Hey everyone just gonna say please pray for this guy named David he reminds me of Megan but i think he is a satanist and i have a question for you guys but i dont want to say it here because it may cause a debate so please message me if i can ask you but yeah this david guy is like dissing on Christianity and alot of stuff...
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Artist4Jesus89 - Posts: 550
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I'll pray lots of people come to meet Jesus through your efforts! Got get those souls!
[color="Red"]As a man thinks in his heart, so is he. - Proverbs 23:7[/color]
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Robin: "If we close our eyes, we can't see anything."
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Robin: "If we close our eyes, we can't see anything."
Batman: "A sound observation, Robin."
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God is increasing us and showing us favor thanks you guy for the prayers!!!
12 people this week and it was amazing!!!
My assistant pastor had given us 20 dollars for pizza and then that one teacher gave us 20 and we had 10 so we have enough money to get pizza for a while praise God!!!
God is awesome and i give him all the glory fo everything!!!
I LOVE JESUS!!! <3 <3
anyways ill keep ya'll up to date!
12 people this week and it was amazing!!!
My assistant pastor had given us 20 dollars for pizza and then that one teacher gave us 20 and we had 10 so we have enough money to get pizza for a while praise God!!!
God is awesome and i give him all the glory fo everything!!!
I LOVE JESUS!!! <3 <3
anyways ill keep ya'll up to date!
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Artist4Jesus89 - Posts: 550
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I got an intestinal virus a couple of weeks ago and I still have to be careful of what I eat. Reading this just reminds me of how desperately I want a pizza right now. A thick one. With lots of sauce. T.T
Praying for your continued success. It's not exactly 5 loaves and 2 fishes, but it's still God at work!
Praying for your continued success. It's not exactly 5 loaves and 2 fishes, but it's still God at work!
"Those who believe will be saved...so they say. Get it?"
Sister Rosette Christopher
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