[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?" "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet. You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times." It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach. He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.
Myoti wrote:EDIT: It seems I'm off on RK. Apparently Samurai X is the one that had the gore?
Kaji wrote:I understand that it can be hard for a mod or admin to aprove a reviews ratings if they have never seen the reviewed anime, but that only means there should be some other checks in place to be sure all ratings are consistant and acurate.
Kaji wrote:On another note, I personally think that the use of age ratings is misleading in reguards to the apropriateness of reviewed anime.
Cap'n Nick wrote:While we're on this I'd like to put in a request for more consistent grammar and punctuation editing before publication.
Cap'n Nick wrote:While we're on this I'd like to put in a request for more consistent grammar and punctuation editing before publication.
The difficult part, in my mind, is that different people can view the same anime and come away with different impressions of how graphic it was.
Though I agree that the ratings should be as consistent as possible, I think this is more difficult in practice than in theory.
Cap'n Nick wrote:While we're on this I'd like to put in a request for more consistent grammar and punctuation editing before publication.
Shao Feng-Li wrote:Yes. Rurouni Kenshin (TV) is rated 13+ and Smaurai X(OAV) rated 17+ (Basicly rated R).
Kumagoro wrote:How about if the series is licensed, the age rating should be the age printed on the DVD, and if it's not licensed than what would likely be on the DVD cover?
Mithrandir wrote:I think it's probably appropriate to bring this up. Many times, the review is NOT meant to disambiguate the title. Every single one of those reviews that have a "3" or a "7" also has a fill-in field where the reviewer should be explaining why they gave the title the rating they gave it. It's up to the reader to extrapolate from that whether the rating is one they would have given themselves.
Since these are totally subjective, I'm not convinced there's really any way to get 100% consensus - irrespective of the ruberic or metric.
Since these are totally subjective, I'm not convinced there's really any way to get 100% consensus - irrespective of the ruberic or metric.
AnimeHeretic wrote:One thing I noticed was with the rating for sex is there seems to be a disagreement of what warants a "10." I myself had been basing my evaluations on the fact that hentai is a DND topic, so I would see a "10" as the worst rating short of hentai, while others have said they thought "10" should be reserved for hentai. An official ruling might be useful
Radical Dreamer wrote:Right, though I would consider the manga to be more on-par with Samurai X as far as gore is concerned.
CDLviking wrote:Exactly. I usually don't even pay attention to the scales when reading reviews, but skip straight to the written explanation of the ratings.
In other cases, the exclusion of problem content in reviews may be due to a difference in the interpretation of certain terms.
Myoti wrote:In reading review threads (namely the one for "Dokuro-chan"), we also need to take to mind that some here could be considered more "liberal-minded" than others, meaning they may view things from a different perspective. Again, which is why I state a specific numerical system may be able to lessen bias and inaccuracies based on these kinds of interpretations, along with the "review board" or such as he stated (though I wonder if the threads for the reviews themselves can count as such).
Mithrandir wrote:The reviews board idea is an interesting one.
1. No one system will work for everyone.
2. We do not have unlimited resources to throw at usability issues.
3. Whatever system we build has to work within some fairly strict constraints of the VB software.
Giving cut-and-dry benchmarks for certain ratings might very well inhibit the ability of a reviewer to account for extenuating circumstances: bloodless but horrorific violence or a bloody scene that wasn't violent but needed to prove a point, to simply give two possible scenarios.
Myoti wrote:Basically, what I'm saying is to have a stickied thread in the review Forums that has several lists (for each content, violence, nudity, etc.), and each one with the numbers "0-10" stating typical scenarios.
myoti wrote:Basically, what I'm saying is to have a stickied thread in the review Forums that has several lists (for each content, violence, nudity, etc.), and each one with the numbers "0-10" stating typical scenarios.
Let me say that I think this isn't a bad idea. It takes little to no effort (just someone making such a list and some tweaking) and could eliminate whatever percentage of reviews there are that have off numbers due to reviewer confusion. Not necessarily notes for every number, but at least guidelines for some (1,3,5,7,9, for example) It could help, anyway.
ikimasu wrote:Well, as long as people are in here giving their opinions as to why they think it should/shouldn't change, I might as well offer my opinion as well.
I think that the current way of going about things is fine, so long as the entire review is read. While I have not read every review, I have always had a good experience with them. There may be some problems, but I think that overall it is fine. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
While I think this would be a good idea, I do believe there is a problem. Giving numbers specific values at this point might cause some confusion. Using an example that was stated here previously:
Inu Yasha is labeled with Bad Religion: 2. If we now give the numbering system to have specific values to look something like this:
1: None.
3: Characters have shrines to their ancestors.
5. Characters Often run across "spiritual forces" or use "magic".
7: Some characters are demons, or demons are shown in a positive light.
9: Character's commonly take the Lord's name in vain, and defame Christianity in general.
10: Outright Blasphemy.
Now, even though there are examples, there is still room for the reviewer to make a personal call. While the characters in question are called "demons", and are shown in a positive light, they aren't actually demons. They are monsters. How is Inu Yasha scored?
Also, just creating guidelines could be problematic in and of itself. Who gets to make the final call on what is considered worse than what?
Also, implementing any such guidelines would likely mean going through ALL of the reviews to ensure they meet the new guidelines. That takes alot of time, and our staffers (as great as they are) are volunteers who don't get paid to keep the site up. On the other hand, if the older reviews aren't updated, then the system falls apart anyways.
All in all, I'm not against a change, but I just don't think it's practical to change it at this point.
ikimasu wrote:Inu Yasha is labeled with Bad Religion: 2. If we now give the numbering system to have specific values to look something like this:
1: None.
3: Characters have shrines to their ancestors.
5. Characters Often run across "spiritual forces" or use "magic".
7: Some characters are demons, or demons are shown in a positive light.
9: Character's commonly take the Lord's name in vain, and defame Christianity in general.
10: Outright Blasphemy.
ikimasu wrote:Also, just creating guidelines could be problematic in and of itself. Who gets to make the final call on what is considered worse than what?
AnimeHeretic wrote:Obviously we don't want to stir up these kinds of debates in reviews, but it's something to consider that the rating of "Bad Religion" may vary depending on the perceptions of the reviewer.
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