SSBB trailer

[Debitt]

I fangirl squealed over Metaknight. I really did. D: Nintendo's working their nostalgia factor for this game for sure, with Metaknight and Pit getting thrown into the mix. And I was surprised to see Snake too - joy that "THE ORANGE" is going to be there.

I do hope they keep most of their previous characters, though. I will be VERY sad if Zelda and Marth aren't in this one.

[Slater]

If they throw Megaman in there, what do you think the chances are of them putting Simon Belmont in too?

[Bobtheduck]

Hmm... Maybe it's only one icon per company, which means they can't have snake and simon belmont...

[Slater]

Well what fun is Megaman and Pit without Belmont? lol

[indyrocker]

I just about died watching that thing! And yes wario does really have a fart attack! Just think if they threw in some old school charitures like the dog from duck hunt and frogger, mmmm what would be their attacks?

[Raiden no Kishi]

It appears they've added some "Limit Break" ~style attacks, what with the floating Smash icons and the like. Link's special attack was quite wicked, if unoriginal [Renzokuken/Lionheart/Omnislash, anyone?]. One thing I don't understand is why they made Samus so . . . fanservicey. That suit doesn't make any sense. Form-fitting I understand, but (read the spoiler if you must, I just go into a little frank detail)
[spoiler]having the suit form around each breast induividually and form around her rear that tightly[/spoiler]? That's just excessive. It doesn't suit who Samus is. Samus is a serious bounty hunter. She wouldn't give a rip about being "sexy". However, that beam whip is brilliant. I'm all for that. Meta Knight makes me VERY HAPPY. So does Pit, even though I've never played Kid Icarus [that's the game he's from, right?] He looks cool. A magic bow that turns into two shortswords? Righteous. Snake is . . . an interesting choice for Smash Bros. ~ he [as well as the games he stars in] are quite serious, whereas Smash Bros. really isn't. Although, Samus is pretty serious, so I guess it works. Cardboard box FTW. I would like to see Sonic in a Smash Bros. game, although the number of third-party characters is likely to be few [probably just one ~ though anything's possible].

For no reason whatsoever, third-party characters I'd like to see in SSBB are:

Sonic
Tails
or Sonic&Tails [like Ice Climbers, only better]
Rockman/Mega Man [original version]
Red Mage from the original Final Fantasy

The Uematsu-composed theme song makes me really really happy. [is somewhat of a Nobuo Uematsu fanboi]

.rai//

[Shia Kyosuka]

It doesn't suit who Samus is. Samus is a serious bounty hunter. She wouldn't give a rip about being "sexy".

That's the thing. She doesn't care. It's probably meant for the most free movement she can get inside the suit, or it's probably a suit that's supposed to be tight, and get the most out of the human body, like Raiden's suit in MGS2. And seriously, look at how Tight Snake and Raiden's suits look in MGS2.

Do THEY care about being sexy? no. Seriously, when It's a woman in a skin-tight suit, people always think it's solely for sex appeal, but when a MAN like snake or raiden are in skin-tight suits, it's normal.

I could also say, that she's in her suit, most of the time, so nobody could see her, making being sexy not even close to any of Samus's concerns.

All in all, it's how you take it. You could JUST play the game, or complain about Samus. I don't think it's for sex appeal, I just think it's a cool design. Others... well... they complain about it... a LOT, about something that's totally innocent, when there's things that actually show SKIN out there that are actually meant for sex appeal, like Dead Or Alive...

Gah, sorry of it seemed like an outburst, I'm just tired of seeing complaints about suits in a video game that I, myself, think are perfectly innocent, such as Zero Suit Samus, or Krystal in Star Fox Assault. (somebody even went as far as saying her suit was pornographic, and that Nintendo was selling the game off of Krystal's sex appeal.)

[Slater]

the Zero Suit is consistant from 1986 style of Samus. She's a bountyhunter but she's supposed to be hot. She could be seen in the same suit in Metroid Prime 2 as well... nobody complained

[Felix]

*spaz's, seizures, hyperventilates, and then watches it*

.....

*spaz's some more, seizures a lot more, and hyperventilates and then dies*

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*watches it again*

AHHHHHH! *dies again*

[TrigunX89]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the Metroid games have a tradition of showing Samus in a bikini?

[Bobtheduck]

Yeah... 1 and 3 do, anyhow... I forget if 2 did, but it took me so freaking long to get through 2 so I may just not remember...

Speaking of metroid 2, If any metroid fan hasn't played it, pull up an old gameboy (or an Advanced that's not a micro) and play it!! It's my favorite in the series... The metroid queen remains one of my all time favorite battles... (it was so much cooler than Mother Brain in any form)

I didn't have Fusion long enough to beat it, though...

[meboeck]

It appears they've added some "Limit Break" ~style attacks, what with the floating Smash icons and the like. Link's special attack was quite wicked, if unoriginal [Renzokuken/Lionheart/Omnislash, anyone?]. One thing I don't understand is why they made Samus so . . . fanservicey. That suit doesn't make any sense. Form-fitting I understand, but (read the spoiler if you must, I just go into a little frank detail)

If something is form-fitting, it's going to do the things you mentioned in the spoiler. If they wanted to make it fanservicey, they would have had cleavage showing or something, but as it is she is basically completely covered except for her head.

Ok, I'm going to jomp in the third-party character conversation now. They need to get Diddy Kong. They already have Donkey Kong, but Diddy was not actually made by Nintendo. It would be really cool to get the two of them together.

And Josh Christopher, they have said that there are new play modes, they just haven't announced what they are yet. But considering how many modes they added in Melee, I hope they bring us as many news ones this time.

[Nate]

By the way, that suit isn't something they invented just for fanservice. In Metroid: Zero Mission, after beating Mother Brain Samus loses her Power Suit, and is forced to reclaim it wearing only that blue suit and a small energy blaster.

If they wanted to go the fanservice route, they could have had Samus running all over the place in the bikini they showed her wearing in the previous games, but they gave her a full suit that covers her entire body. I don't see how that's fanservice.

Anyway.

If Sega and Konami characters got in the mix, I'd definitely want to see:

Dynamite Headdy
Vectorman
Anyone from Shining Force (though Yogurt, Zylo, or Guntz are my personal favorites)
Zeke from Zombies Ate My Neighbors

[Shinja]

im definatly getting a wii now

[Slater]

^^ exactly. Zero suit is more than just tradition in this game. I mean... her zero suit is made for battle... sure, she could have worn a Gi instead, but... any of you worn a nice gi before? It sure would be a lot stuffier in that Powersuit with THAT on

[DragonSlayer]

I erally want to go play the Metroid primes again now, Seeing as how, the final boss battle for Metroid prime is just amazing.
This is gonna be amazing, tehg raphics look beautiful and there even done yet! Im gonna get a Wii at launch, especially for this game.

[Raiden no Kishi]

By the way, that suit isn't something they invented just for fanservice. In Metroid: Zero Mission, after beating Mother Brain Samus loses her Power Suit, and is forced to reclaim it wearing only that blue suit and a small energy blaster.

If they wanted to go the fanservice route, they could have had Samus running all over the place in the bikini they showed her wearing in the previous games, but they gave her a full suit that covers her entire body. I don't see how that's fanservice.

I do know about the Zero Mission bit [that is why they called it the Zero Suit, most likely] and that it could be much worse, but I was referring to the way it clings, particularly in the back. I guess the front doesn't bother me as much, seeing as how that's not entirely unrealistic, but in back? Fanservice, man. Fanservice. Your normal wetsuits, etc don't do that. You would have to make the suit specifically to do that, and besides being pointless, it would likely be uncomfortable to boot. 'Twas done that way for one reason.

I would have personally liked to have seen Samus wear a black three-quarter trenchcoat over it with rolled-up sleeves. But that's just me. I wouldn't think she would want any of the inevitable . . . attention that suit would draw on its own. Fully covering or not, it doesn't leave much to the imagination shapewise.

Now, I don't lust watching the scenes with Samus, mind you [one: 'tis harder with animated characters, [though not impossible by any means ~ just look at hentai [not literally]], two: I specifically watch her face/hair/gun/whip etc. since they interest me more, three: I'm determined, by God's help, to beat lust, and four: I like Samus way too much. She's on my list of people I would hug for being so awesome, along with Jesus [obviously], Kenshin, Vash, Samurai Jack, and many of my friends [whom I do hug often]]. But Samus is too awesome to be dishonored by being objectified through fanservice. Way too awesome.

.rai//

[PS]: I understand the points made about how a tight suit would be practical and how Samus just wouldn't take aesthetics into account at all [although I dunno about that ~ she keeps her hair and face looking spiffy, as though it mattered ^_^] ~ I'm not suggesting Samus switch to BDUs. To be honest, the suit doesn't faze me either, as I said. Let me have my opinion ~ I'm just addressing it on principle. I'm just suggesting one minor change. Sheesh! I don't approve of the bikinis or, to a lesser extent, her Fusion undersuit ['tis a little too "Faye Valentine" for me, although not that bad] either ~ those were worse. I'm just adressing the suit within the context of THIS game. Off my back, please. >_< Thank you. This spine's got all it needs supporting my weight. ^_^

Me, I'm not saying it's way out of line. I'm not even saying the suit itself is deliberately fanservicey. It's got its reasons, like Snake and Raiden's Sneaking and Skull Suits [respectively] do. In the guys' case, it's for stealth purposes [no loose clothing to rustle, no needless enlargment of the body silhouette, resistance to the elements [especially Raiden what with his swimming]. For Samus . . . the case has been made. I'm just saying there was one detail [I'm even dropping the front ~ it's not really bad at all, I've seen considerably worse on the cover of a Graphic-sha book] that, I think, was a step in the wrong direction. That is IT. Okay, thank you, on with the show.

[jon_jinn]

man. i WOULD be really excited about this game, except for the fact that it's for Wii and that means i'm gonna have to buy a whole new gaming system if i want to play this game. for now, i'll stick with SSBM...

[CrossMovement]

It appears they've added some "Limit Break" ~style attacks, what with the floating Smash icons and the like. Link's special attack was quite wicked, if unoriginal [Renzokuken/Lionheart/Omnislash, anyone?]
For no reason whatsoever, third-party characters I'd like to see in SSBB are:

Sonic
Tails
or Sonic&Tails [like Ice Climbers, only better]

Well I think what makes Link's "Limit Break" better is the triforce. Never before have I seen the triforce utilated in anything in the LOZ games, except for the continuiation of the storyline and such (Zelda lost, Link finds triforce of courage or whichever one he's supposed to, fights ganon the end..>_>). When I saw Link do TriOmnislash( heh, I like that name!) I was like..O_O -drool-. I havent played Final Fantasy 7 to the point where I could get OmniSlash but I think the triforce holding the opponent down is what made it different. Same thing goes to Super Mario doing that super special with his hands. When I saw that I instantly thought Goku's Super Kamehameha with a bit of the mushroom kingdom touch on it.

P.S. Kudos for the idea of Sonic & Tails but would also be nice is if you could get the option to have them work together or work alone like the Original Sonic games. Like you could choose to fight as Sonic alone or with Tails and vice versa to make the Sonic characters more versatile because if Sonic is in there..I wanna pwn Mario with him and him only, not with tails. Anyways...kudos to that idea on Sonic and tails!