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Postby Tommy » Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:56 pm

Thank You Kaemmerite. There is nothing that makes me feel more happy than people continously bashing me and my opinion. It brings me peace and joy.

I meant there wasn`t a huge graphic leap when it first came out. I was comparing

Final Fantasy V -SNES-
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To Final Fantasy IV -NES-
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Then again, comparing those two games only was unfair so i aplogize. If FFV, is actually for NES, i will scoot away slowly.

BTW, kae, what were the two games you compared before Metroid?
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Postby Midori » Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:03 pm

Actually, FFIV was an SNES game.
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Postby Tommy » Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:04 pm

I`m pretty sure FF4 was on NES.

For the two games Kae compared I`m guessing Secret of Mana and something else...
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Postby Midori » Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:07 pm

No, IV was most certainly SNES. I had it for a while. (borrowed)
It was called Final Fantasy II in the U.S.
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Postby Nate » Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:09 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:I`m pretty sure FF4 was on NES.

Then you're pretty wrong.

And that was Seiken Densetsu 3 and Deadly Towers.
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Postby Tommy » Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:26 pm

Ok, well then my point is proved. Kaemmerite obviosuly pulled the best looking SNES game from the later SNES years. FF4 has NES graphics, and so do someother games. Yes, Seiken Densetsu III part of the Mana series is a game on the SNES that has way better graphics than what SNES is normally known for.
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Postby Nate » Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:21 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:FF4 has NES graphics, and so do most other games.

"Most other games?" Give me proof. Don't just sit there and give your opinion, back it up with evidence. If you want to play the "Oh it was a later SNES game and had better graphics than the system was known for," let's do this.

I have here two games. One is Super Mario Bros. 3. I have been searching with Google, and have found on many sites that people claim SMB3 has the best graphics of any NES game. It was also released rather late in the NES's lifetime, therefore maximizing the graphics potential.

I also have Super Mario World. The first game released for SNES. The VERY first, meaning the system was brand new and people didn't know how to utilize the graphics processor fully. Let's take a look.

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Now, I'm not gonna say that Super Mario World's graphics are a huge improvement over SMB3. HOWEVER, it's clear that even a late NES game vs. the first SNES game shows there IS graphics improvement.

Saying that "most games had NES graphics" based off one, ONE game is ludicrous, and it's even more ludicrous to say that there was no difference, as I have proved countless times.
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Postby Tommy » Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:26 pm

Point taken.

EDIT: I do like the MAP graphics better for SMB3.
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Postby Midori » Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:26 pm

The main graphical difference between the NES and SNES was that originally graphics were pretty much broken up into 8x8 or 16x16 squares, whereas the SNES allowed sprites of any size.
Also, the SNES cartridges could fit more data, which allowed more unique sprites.
But mostly it's just small things, like the ability to keep track of more moving objects and the dramatic increase in maximum colors.
If you count, you'll see that the SMB3 picture there has 16(!) colors in it.


And yes, FFIV did have rather primitive graphics. Except for the monsters. They looked awesome. Probably because they needed more than the 40-something available colors on the NES.


If you want a SNES game with really awesome graphics, look at Donkey Kong Country.

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Postby Tommy » Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:46 pm

Can I see a screenshot for that?

Kae, you seen to have all the stuff.

Chrono Trigger IMO is enough to say this system rocks.
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Postby Nate » Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:43 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:Point taken.

EDIT: I do like the MAP graphics better for SMB3.

EEP. Hey Tom. Wanna know something funny? I accidentally posted the map graphics for the Super Nintendo version of SMB3. I have now edited my post with the CORRECT graphics for the NES version of the game. Now tell me which one you like better. ]http://www.consoleclassix.com/info_img/Donkey_Kong_Country_SNES_ScreenShot1.jpg[/IMG]
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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:00 pm

Is that really the Super Nintendo? The graphics look way too good! Maybe I actually grew up with the original Nintendo then?

eg. Duck Hunt - awesome game (maybe not Super Nintendo?)

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Postby Azier the Swordsman » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:01 pm

Warrior 4 Jesus wrote:Is that really the Super Nintendo? The graphics look way too good! Maybe I actually grew up with the original Nintendo then?


Yep, that's definately the Super Nintendo.
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Postby Myoti » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:35 pm

If you want impressiveness, try GBC = to GBA.
I'm still in awe at how they managed to do it.

As far as Metal Gear to Nintendo. Yes, you get remakes...and crappy card games. Clearly there making the jump. *eye roll*

I'm happy about the GC remakes as I know have a chance to play (though I haven't yet) and the card game was the PSP. :P
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Postby Stephen » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:49 pm

So Nintendo dident even get the crappy card game. *laughs* I'm sorry. Useless consols I hate all tend to get lumped together in my head. ^_____^
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Postby Myoti » Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:44 pm

So Nintendo dident even get the crappy card game. *laughs* I'm sorry. Useless consols I hate all tend to get lumped together in my head. ^_____^

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Postby CookinLikeSanji » Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:15 am

SNES hands down.

Both Lufia's, Chrono Trigger, FF6, Earthbound, Legend of Mana, Illusion of Gaia...

I could go on with that list for a while, but I think you get my point.

The SNES is, and always will be the system of legendary RPG's.
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Postby Tommy » Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:34 am

[quote="Midori"]The main graphical difference between the NES and SNES was that originally graphics were pretty much broken up into 8x8 or 16x16 squares, whereas the SNES allowed sprites of any size.
Also, the SNES cartridges could fit more data, which allowed more unique sprites.
But mostly it's just small things, like the ability to keep track of more moving objects and the dramatic increase in maximum colors.
If you count, you'll see that the SMB3 picture there has 16(!) colors in it.


And yes, FFIV did have rather primitive graphics. Except for the monsters. They looked awesome. Probably because they needed more than the 40-something available colors on the NES.


If you want a SNES game with really awesome graphics, look at Donkey Kong Country.


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Postby SnoringFrog » Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:11 pm

I'd say SNES. Megaman X 1-3, Street Fighter II, Samurai SHowdown, and Phalanx were all great. ALthough the NES did have Duck Hunt and Final fantasy I.
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Postby Midori » Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:46 pm

I have both ^_^

Anyway, once the revolution comes out, you'll be able to play both on the same cconsole. But if you are only going to get one, I'd say SNES, simply because the games are larger. And most of the real awesome titles for NES you can ge on GBA, so...yeah.
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Postby Kanerou » Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:50 pm

Donkey Kong Country rocks.

And gotta say SNES for DKC 1 & 2 as well as Mario Kart. Mario All-Stars is awesome, too. Oh yeah - anyone else love Mario Paint? Remember that bug-swatting game?
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Postby SnoringFrog » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:55 pm

anyone else love Mario Paint? Remember that bug-swatting game?


That game was AWESOME! I loved that! Can't believe I forgot Mario Kart too, that was another great game.
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Postby Midori » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:43 pm

Don't forget Link to the Past.
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