Final Fantasy VIII (In comparison to other FFs)

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Postby yukinon » Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:16 am

I think the fact that FFVII DOES have such a strong fanbase means that the movie could be crap, and they'd still snap it up.

Not that that means it will be, but I think Squenix could get away with it to an extent.
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Postby Myoti » Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:47 am

Oh, wait. This is a FFVIII topic. Mayhap we need to move back the way.
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Postby Tommy » Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:22 pm

MSP: December area? That was a typo. September 15th.

Anyways, yeah. I liked how Squall`s personality made a dramatic change.
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Postby Myoti » Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:43 pm

Off-topic (again):
MSP: December area? That was a typo. September 15th.

Not a typo. It got pushed back. *cries*
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Postby kazekami » Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:44 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:Anyways, yeah. I liked how Squall`s personality made a dramatic change.


I don't think Squalls personality changed at all. He just opened up more.
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Postby yukinon » Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:39 am

Myoti wrote:Oh, wait. This is a FFVIII topic. Mayhap we need to move back the way.


"(in comparison to other FFs)" So I think we're more or less ok. ~le shrug~
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:23 am

Tom Dincht wrote:MSP: December area? That was a typo. September 15th.

Anyways, yeah. I liked how Squall`s personality made a dramatic change.


I beg to differ

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Postby Tommy » Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:15 am

FFVII: Advent Children isn`t an anime. I`m not trusting anything but the official website until Sept. 15th comes around.
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Postby Myoti » Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:30 am

FFVII: Advent Children isn`t an anime. I`m not trusting anything but the official website until Sept. 15th comes around.

They have another topic stating it's being delayed... for Americans. Like it wasn't enough we don't even get the Ultimate Bundle...
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:35 am

Tom Dincht wrote:FFVII: Advent Children isn`t an anime. I`m not trusting anything but the official website until Sept. 15th comes around.


oh goodness....

READ the article

According to the newest issue of Electronic Gaming Monthly, Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children will not be released in North America in September as previously reported.

Instead, EGM reports that Advent Children will be released "this holiday season." No further details about the date are mentioned.

Details about the release are however included in the article. There will be two releases, a single disc UMD release and a 2-disc Special Edition DVD. The 2-disc set will include extra trailers, bonus features and behind-the-scenes material, but not Last Order Final Fantasy VII. The short Last Order OAV will be included in the Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Ultimate Edition, which will retail for 29,500 yen (~US$270) and is to be released on September 14.


from EGM MAGAZINE.... Animenewsnetwork just has the story FROM The magazine...

Plus even if it's not anime... it is still animated... and still japanese animation... just 3D... and created by those who are Japanese.... and many anime fans like it...
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Postby Myoti » Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:44 pm

Tom:

Definition of anime = any form of animation made in Japan, including CGI.
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Postby Tommy » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:21 am

um...so FF8 is anime.....that`s kinda dumb. I thought anime was a certain art style. I thought what you were talking about was Japanimation......heh heh.

I think it`s dumb people hated on FFVIII because it was "releastic". Realistic is cooler. I mean tyhere really are sorceressess in this world right, are is that witches? And Sorceresses always come to the past to cause a Time Compression and people use Numchuckus and whips still, right? Oh and how about those GFs erasing memory and them actually all

[SPOILER] Growing up together other than Rinoa. [/SPOILER]

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Postby Nate » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:58 am

Uh, I'm pretty sure they mean the character design and graphics, not the storyline or gameplay.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:47 pm

Yes yes Tom... casting ice 2 on your enemy... TOTALLY realistic....

The whole world isn't a LARP (Live Action Role Play) Tom haha

you can't really summon ifrit to beat up bullies at school either...
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Postby Michael » Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:16 pm

On Topic:

I can't really say that FFVIII was the best FF, but I can say it was the one I enjoyed the most. I liked how the characters moved the plot along, instead of the plot moving the characters. FFIX was kinda like that too.

Off Topic:

FF: Spirits Within flopped bigtime in the U.S., but Advent Children isn't the same; for one thing, it's building off of a story that we all know. And for another, FF7 fans are psychotic. They're almost as bad as LotR fans. They might even buy multiple copies to ensure it doesn't flop.

I'm sure it'll do very well, I just hope [spoiler]THAT AERIS IS STILL DEAD!! BWAHAHAHAHA![/spoiler] (Oh, c'mon, it's not really a spoiler anymore. The games been out for nearly 10 years.)
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Postby kazekami » Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:16 pm

nice MSP. =D
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Postby blkmage » Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:29 pm

The Japanese not being big on FFVIII's realism has to do with the art style. And the reasons for that are the culture over there. Graphics aren't the most important thing ever for gaming over there. That's because of culture too. It has to do with the types of games they're into over there. That's why the Xbox is failing in Japan.

And in my opinion, Final Fantasy VII needs to die a swift death. No more movies. No more sequels. No more cell phone games. No more sidestories. Aeris is dead. Live with it. Just let the game rest in peace.
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:34 pm

blkmage wrote:And in my opinion, Final Fantasy VII needs to die a swift death. No more movies. No more sequels. No more cell phone games. No more sidestories. Aeris is dead. Live with it. Just let the game rest in peace.



Amen to that! My gosh...It's starting to be total overkill. And Aeris needs to stay dead...No more reviving and popping up in Kingdom Hearts! XD
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Postby kazekami » Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:18 pm

Rurouni_Kaoru wrote:Amen to that! My gosh...It's starting to be total overkill. And Aeris needs to stay dead...No more reviving and popping up in Kingdom Hearts! XD


YES I ALSO THINK SO! FFVII is overrated. Though i don't care if it shows up in Kingdom Hearts. As long as it's not taking over kingdom hearts.
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Postby yukinon » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:21 pm

I think Americans are more visually oriented anyway. It has to do with the whole 'instant gratification/spoiled child' mindset.
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Postby Tommy » Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:12 pm

Um...Msp. Don`t use that sarcasm on me like I was serious. My entire last post was sarcasm. POr were you agreeing? Whatever.
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Postby Myoti » Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:22 pm

Realistic is cooler.

Not always, Tom. Would Mario be cooler if he was "realistic"? No, he'd be scary.
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Postby mechana2015 » Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:37 pm

I agree with Myoti. Realistic only can go so far in what can be done, while stylized art is incredibly flexable and much more visually entertaining in most cases.
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Postby Tommy » Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:25 pm

I mean as far as FF games go, I thought Chocobo boy was cooler than chocobo Moogle. I mean if it wasn`t for the unrealistic where would the 'fantasy' be? FFVIII maybe should`ve stood alone outside the series but there would be two major bad things:

1. It would be less popular.
2. Squall would not have been in Kingdom Hearts. He was awesome in that game unlike Sephiroth`s voice. Lance Bass.....Come on.
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Postby kazekami » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:12 pm

Yeah i didn't think Lance bass lived up to my imagined Sepheroth voice.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:25 pm

blkmage wrote:And in my opinion, Final Fantasy VII needs to die a swift death. No more movies. No more sequels. No more cell phone games. No more sidestories. Aeris is dead. Live with it. Just let the game rest in peace.


:lol: blkmage i love you

and tom... that post of yours totally sounded NOT sarcastic or joking in any way...
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Postby kazekami » Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:03 pm

Mr. SmartyPants wrote::lol: blkmage i love you

and tom... that post of yours totally sounded NOT sarcastic or joking in any way...


I concur on both counts.

Nothing in Toms post indicated that he wasn't serious.
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Postby Sephiroth » Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:32 pm

FF8 - the story was good, the graphics out of combat were good, but i though were rather poor in combat in alot of places, what i found to be the main downfall of the game was the draw & GF systems, really to beat the game you need to depend pretty much totally on GF's for a good chunk of the game, and i never really got used to the draw system, comparitively i liked it alot better than FF9, howver my all time fave has got to be FF7, though you could probably tell that from my username, lol.
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Postby Tarnish » Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:57 pm

I enjoyed FF8 for what it was. Not the best, but a pretty fun way to pass the time. However, I stopped paying attention to the "plot" after

[spoiler] the main characters found out they were all in the same orphanage, at around the same age, and coincidentally found each other like 10 years later [/spoiler]

:shady: Really...
And I found it hard to enjoy the love story because I didn't like Rinoa or Squall.
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Postby Tommy » Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:28 pm

"I think it`s dumb people hated on FFVIII because it was "releastic". Realistic is cooler. I mean tyhere really are sorceressess in this world right, are is that witches? And Sorceresses always come to the past to cause a Time Compression and people use Numchuckus and whips still, right? Oh and how about those GFs."
_That post

What are you guys talkjing about? Yeah, I think Time Compressions happen all the time. That has carcasm written all over it. How about those UFOs carrying off the cows?

No FF game is realistic beyond any extent. I was sarcastic PERIOD
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