You're telling me to cool off...I wasn't the one try to point the finger earlier on you was I? Just pointing out what a simple google search could of gotten you which could have made things alot less confusing with your topic. I wasn't the first one confused about what game you were actually talking about either.
Thanks GhostPoet at least that's two people who got one point I was trying to make. I don't care how good any of these games are compared to Christian games. If they're going to sell me something period they will be competing for our money and thus in my mind they have to be compared to secular games on the market. It could be the greatest Christian game ever but if it's still only half as good as a mediocre secular game in the same class it sure as heck won't be getting my money. Negative? Yeah probably but hey if they're going to compete in the market then they should expect to be judged the same as every other product out there. This goes for Christians games in general not just these two.
Thus if they really want to be taken seriously and not just some tiny niche then they have to be to standards. I know it can be done. They can make games just as good in terms of gameplay and graphics. But it just doesn't seem to me that they're trying to get to that point. Time yes but as Volt said, which I did not know myself until looking it up, using dated ammateur engines like this is a joke. And to to try and market Orion as a serious game in 06 is insane. And for Tales their forums are almost completely dead, there's sparse real info about the actual game, they have one screenshot of one model on there, blahh that's just plain bad on any level. Just doesn't seem like a serious effort to me. And this is supposed to come out in a year someone said, I just can't see that actually happening.