DO NOT buy a PSP (important read)

[desperado]

yeah im tired of fanboys to. i really think that no one should beleive a word about the psp untill the play it, as a matter of fact dont beleive me dont beleive anyone and go see for yourself because they seem to feed of off each other.

[Kawaiikneko]

heh I'm on my 2nd ps2 but I just got it like a few weeks ago. My first ps2 lasted all the way from when it was first released.

as for the ds vs psp wars.. its a load of cheese. They weren't meant to compete against each other. now, since that article was written by a nintendo fanboyesque site, I'm not leaning towards buying into it. I'm sure the DS is great, but it doesn't especially appeal to me. The psp is very expensive at the moment. When the price goes down I'll get one, but until then I'll just watch it and see if people who ACTUALLY BUY IT like it or not. I'm not gonna go on some impressions of people using quotes but have never seemed to use the system.

of all the people I've seen and talked to who actually have the psp, as well as the articles from gaming magazines and such, all have enjoyed the psp and think it'll do rather well. However, only time, and not nintendo fanboy quotes, will tell

(btw I didn't mean to be rude ^^; just voicen ma opinion~)

[desperado]

<claps hands>

[Fireproof]

not yay...its a very loud noooo. dont be a blind fanboy think for yourself! dont beleive everything you see!

Oh, pipe down. This is nothing new for me. The only reason I have a PS2 in teh first place is because I'm drawn to all of its shiny RPGs... O.O (Believe me, if Gamecube had as many RPGs as PS2, I'd be a complete fanboy. For now, I'm just a normal gamer with fanboyish tendencies.)

[Nate]

Yeah, my PS2 is a first-gen PS2, I use it almost daily, and still no DREs. I wonder what these people are doing to theirs to screw it up so quick?

And I agree with k-neko, I'm not going to believe a Nintendo fanboy site, as they're out for blood. Exaggeration of facts is NOT a good thing, and I wouldn't believe anything that site posts.

That said, I'm NOT a PSP fan, and I don't plan to get one, at least not in the next year. The "flaws" have nothing to do with it, just lack of interest in the titles. Same reason I don't have a DS. So...whatever.

Sony is a good company, and the ability to round up third-party developers is all a system needs, dude. Remember Atari Jaguar? The system was superior hardware-wise to anything on the market. But, there was no third party support, so it went under. A better system graphically/soundwise/processorwise isn't enough. You need to have GAMES. Sony has the best games, so it's got the largest chunk of the market at the moment, though Xbox is coming up in its own too, especially with Halo.

To make a long story short, if you don't like the PSP, don't buy it. But don't go around saying it's the worst system ever just because YOU don't like it. People ARE allowed to have their own opinions, ya know.

[Arnobius]

Not caring about either system, when I look at arguments on the net, I do see most of the venom and personal attacks on the pro PS side while most things I read from the anti PS side are claims that the Sony equipment is breakdown prone, citing examples.

Personally, I'd like to see more from the Pro PS people than "Well, mine didn't break, so you don't know what you're talking about." Yes I'd like to see a good rebuttal to the original article cited in the first post, but so far, I haven't seen anything.

[Fsiphskilm]

I was a

[Arnobius]

Oh BTW, somebody reserved SonySucks.com .net and .org too

But SonySucks.info is already up. Unfortunately SonySucks.Info Sucks

Have you tried sonysucks.us yet? I hear that's a new domain option, but don't know if there are problems with it. Maybe join the army and get a .mil address? Get elected for a .gov

[Linksquest]

Quote:
"ANALYSTS DECLARE 'NO REASON' TO BUY SONY PSP
New Nintendo console analysts' choice
By TAIGA URANAKA
Staff writer

Amen

[chibiphonebooth]

nintendo shall forever be my lover. XD

i love nintendo stuff- but i love square too... but im not gunna go buy a PSP... ill go buy a DS if anythhing.

ESPECIALLY reading that article.



i had a sony walkman once, and the first time that little plastic thing that tells the device taht it is closed broke off. ... then i returned it, and the BRAND NEW sony walkman (cause i had to get the same one) that i only used... like..5 times started not reading the discs. piece of crap.

[Arnobius]

Well, not that Nintendo's hands are clean. I have a GBA, which got a dead pixel the day after I bought it. Suppose I could have exchanged it, but I was too lazy.

Now if they had designed the PSP to hold PS1 and/or PS2 discs, That would have been something, but I find the prices I've seen for the PSP games excessive. No thanks.

[Cognitive Gear]

I must say, I have made it a rule to not buy sony products until they have released a new "model" of it. Not PS2 vs. PS two, but the model numbers found on the back. The minor things they do to them really help them last longer. This is my way of protecting myself as a consumer. I had no idea that sony products broke so much until about 4 years ago when I got my first job. It was at target, and let me tell you, I've seen ALOT of sony products return because they were defective.

[Arnobius]

Well, I think it always was a rule of thumb not to buy anything (TV, car, appliance etc) with a low serial number because those aren't done as well: Still working the bugs out of the production line.

[desperado]

ok people were asking for acounts of that didnt happen. i have a psp. no dead pixels. no umd ejection. very well made. no slight ajarness with the umd port, no sticking buttons (besides the new feeling wich my old ds had to when i first got it) only complainable thing is the psp gets smuged super easily... oh and almost forgot the battery is no where near what people complain it is. sure its less then the ds, but it hasnt lasted less then 5 hours with me and i play sound up all the way and brightness to medium or max... oh and did i mention i play wipeout pure and the spiderman 2 umd. so no one can tell me its battery is bad....
i think if anyone beleives a article like that then i have some bargain priced vacation swampfront property to sell you in the everglades of florida, on sale to boot >:x

[Arnobius]

So "It didn't happen to me" means all PSP work 100%?

AFAICT, the issue is the larger number of problems. Not that it has a 100% failure rate.

But, like I said, I don't care either way...

[desperado]

rebutel eh?

due to the fact i cant get the quote tages to work ill just write wich part im responding to

2. "90 Minute Battery Life/Overheating?"

an outright lie... my psp has never been below 5 hours battery time. guy i know who has a psp and has dynasty warriors says his has never been gotten much lower then 4:50 4:40 though i can see 4 hours if the game had crazy xenosaga end on end cutscenes none of the launch titles can be that bad. secondly the only time the psp even got hot was during the first full recharge, but the ds did the same thing...

3. "Battery Life Problems Limit Gameplay" or "The Real Reason Metal Gear Acid is Turn-Based."

dont quite know what to say to deal with this twisting of of quotes and outright lies...

4. "Price: It Still Matters"

250 bucks per system now, shows how outdated this article is.. plus i have read many reports saying sony LOSES money for every so many psps.


5. "The Truth about PSP , Mp3s, and Movies"

ok there is a little truth here. you do have to put them on the memory card but i fit what... 8 decent quality songs, a advent children trailer, the muscle relaxant football betting commercial, plus my game saves and still have a have a bit of free room. and on the note of them saying it wont be as good of quality, thats a laugh, because my psp sounds great even though its not that terribly loud (about as loud as the ds or gba could go so what do you expect not wearing headphones?) and on to the lie about watching movies. on a recent family trip i watched spider man 2 all the way through (you say its about hour and a half or so?) watched all the trailers on it (about 11 minutes) and then showed the big fight scene to my parents when we got there (probably about another 5 to 10 minutes) then i turned it off went with my parents, came back, got in the car, and played wipeout the way home
and i dont know about you but i read books, just hold the psp like a book and there is no trouble at all with sitting there for the length of a movie.


6. "Analysts Predict DOOM for PSP"

"With a dual touch-sensitive screen, voice recognition and wireless communication, the Nintendo DS has a load of new features," said Eiji Maeda, game analyst at Daiwa Institute of Research Ltd.

Nintendo says such features will allow users to experience new kinds of games and, more importantly, play intuitively, meaning they can forget about using a complicated control pad and use a stylus pen and their voice instead."

oh and i didnt know that a bigger screen, ps2 graphics, movies, music, and pictures where not good at all...
bunch o hooie in this part

7. "Square-Enix and their strong support for the Nintendo DS"

oh brother. the psp and ds are getting the same amount of games from square... chrono trigger isnt even announced for either system nor is ff 5 or 6 and which one is 4? wasnt the u.s. realeses just 2 and 6?
oh almost forgot to mention advent children and the crisis game (have heard rumors dirge of cerebus is getting a port to it as well)

8. That HORRIBLE Analog Disc: The Achilles heel of the PSP?

i dont know about you but i acctually like it and i have HUGE hands. all my freinds like it better then the d pad (i prefer the dpad but i got started on snes and never have liked anything but a dpad as well) and if they wish to talk about erogonimcs the psp is ROUNDED the ds is SQUARE my hands screamed after a long playing of zelda minish cap when i had my ds. the thing is horribly unerogonamic

9. Fighting on Two Fronts: The Power of GBA and Nintendo DS Combined

i give them a point here but its not as big of a point as they make it. a lot of people arent giving up there gba or sp because of this.

10. Sizing up the Competition: A History Lesson of Other Losers in the Handheld Wars

let me paraphrase this "BOWZ DOWNZ B3F0RZE NENTINDOZ ITZ MIZ HEROZ"


11. " 'PSP: The Portable You Play at Home?' or 'PSP: Don’t Leave Home WITH It.' PSP Design Issuesâ€

[Kenshin17]

Well I just spent 15 minuets typing a reply only to lose it. I'll post it again when my rage at the machine subsides.

[desperado]

man vg cats new comic fits whats going on so much (goes to play psp while waiting to see what interesting posts come up)

[glitch1501]

my friend was telling me about all this stuff, and thanks to desperado, i can combat him

i still am gonna wait til christmas to get ahold of one, more titles and alittle more stability maybe?

[Arnobius]

Rebuttal? So far I see a difference of preferences and personal experiences between the people who like Sony and those who hate them, which is fine, but the proof needed may not be available until the PSP has been out for awhile, so we can see the number of returns compared to the number of units.

Whether or not Sony succeeds with the PSP will depend on the reliability and price/variety of games. Traditionaly, cart games were more reliable but more expensive than disc games because of the extra moving parts in disc based games. Time will tell how well the laser holds up in the PSP, as it is portable.

Games can probably give PSP an edge on variety, since it is easier to make a disc than a cart. On the other hand, right now the prices on the PSP games are much higher than the GBA carts (haven't seen the prices on the DS), so if they don't come down, it can be a disadvantage. Nintendo might have a slight advantage, since I understand it has compatibility with earlier GB games.

Ultimately, it's too early to be arguing this until more evidence comes in. People might want to calm down before the mods decide to lock this...

[desperado]

opinion what in the article wasnt opinion? the whole thing was a direct and false attack on the psp. what do you really want besides a video showing it not do this or that? what else can i give? thats the thing nothing said will apease most people who have already made up there minds

[ShiroiHikari]

I went with PS2 instead of the others for two reasons:
1. DVD support. we needed a DVD player.
2. HUGE library of titles.

we bought our first PS2 used. it was one of the first gens and we had to take it back, but the new one we got has worked perfectly. therefore I have no beef with Sony at this point in time. the demo disc that erased memcard data? three things:
1. if your data is that freaking important, BACK IT UP.
2. they're just games and you shouldn't get so upset over it.
3. Sony is run by humans, therefore mistakes WILL be made once in a while. Microsoft releases buggy stuff all the time and look at them.

anyway, you shouldn't pass judgment on the PSP until you own and use one. yeah, I'm sure the thing will break if you abuse it. it's a sensitive piece of machinery!

I'd like to have a PSP because not only does it play games, it can play music, movies, read picture files, etc. it's not just a glorified Gameboy, it's a portable entertainment device (assuming you have a Memory Stick Duo to load stuff onto).

the 'Cube may perform better than the PS2, but come on, let's be honest...Sony has an awesome array of titles available, while the 'Cube just doesn't deliver. Xbox I'm kind of indifferent toward. yeah, it'd be cool to play games online with other people, but it costs money that I don't have, so what does it matter?

[Arnobius]

opinion what in the article wasnt opinion? the whole thing was a direct and false attack on the psp. what do you really want besides a video showing it not do this or that? what else can i give? thats the thing nothing said will apease most people who have already made up there minds

Did I say the article wasn't an opinion? All I'm saying is that we have two factions who think that their arguments settle the matter, when they don't. If the PSP works for you, fine. Stop trying to treat me like the spokesman for the article. I had some problems with it too. But I'm starting to get tired of the fact that a lot of the arguments from the "pro" side seem to be leaning towards becoming flames.

[Azier the Swordsman]

I personally don't really care about consoles or hardware. I'm simply solely in it for the games. PS2 I couldn't do without because I'd miss out on the vast majority of my all-time favorite game series'. Same goes for the GC. XBox didn't release enough interesting games (for me) to warrant a purchase. And currently, I don't care to get either the PSP of DS. I am interested in the upcoming MGS Acid for PSP, and Final Fantasy III for the DS, but not enough at the moment to warrant their immediate purchase either.

[Arnobius]

I personally don't really care about consoles or hardware. I'm simply solely in it for the games. PS2 I couldn't do without because I'd miss out on the vast majority of my all-time favorite game series'. Same goes for the GC. XBox didn't release enough interesting games (for me) to warrant a purchase. And currently, I don't care to get either the PSP of DS. I am interested in the upcoming MGS Acid for PSP, and Final Fantasy III for the DS, but not enough at the moment to warrant their immediate purchase either.

If I get one, I'd probably want either a modded PS2 or one direct from Japan, since most of my interests in games are the ones from there not likely to come here. My youngest brother has a PS2, which I guess is OK and the Gamecube which I haven't seen. Another brother has the XBox, which seems to be better than the PS2 when the same title is compared. I do like how the XBox can upgrade the firmware for improved performance

Haven't had a new console system since the N64 (Harvest Moon is one of my all time favorite games), and have few PC games (I prefer turn based ones). I had a PS1, for sports games, but got tired with how the graphics in Hockey improved, while the play got kind of lame.

Don't like handhelds, but bought a GBA when I was waiting for my home to be rebuilt-- mainly played Harvest Moon and some JP imports (it seems you don't have to mod a Gameboy to play imports-- or at least the ones I had didn't).

[Debitt]

I don't think the majority of the people in this thread are intentionally attacking the PSP based upon their blind fanboy/girl opinion, but are passing judgement because of their past experiences with other sony producuts, which I don't blame them for doing. I'm actually one of the lucky ones who has gone without having a Sony product break on them, but from problems my friends have had I do know to be wary of the things I buy. I'm probably not going to get a PSP unless it goes a bit lower in price. $250 is still far too much for a jobless high school student like me. Same goes for the games - I can't remember the actual price, but if I remember correctly they are a bit more pricey than the DS/SP games.

I'm not trying to bash on Sony, because I'm perfectly happy with them, if not just a little careful (which every consumer should be with almost every company). I just don't think something like that would be able to fit into the already tight budget that I'm running on: $250 for the system itself, $35+ for games (I'm guessing, I don't know for sure), extra memory sticks to play music and save more games, plus a few other gadgets I'm sure Sony'll release for the system. You have to admit, it does add up, and right now I'm sure a lot of people aren't ready to pay a price like that for the PSP right away, judging by the sort of track record Sony seems to have.

[Nate]

Same goes for the games - I can't remember the actual price, but if I remember correctly they are a bit more pricey than the DS/SP games.

PSP games are approximately forty bucks, which is almost as much as a console title. This is a major factor for why I am not getting a PSP...well, that, and there aren't any titles at the moment that interest me. Same goes for DS. At the moment, I am perfectly happy with my GBA SP and my extensive library of games for it.

At least until some decent RPGs come out for DS or PSP.

[Cognitive Gear]

This is starting to turn into a flame war... both sides have thier opinions, and nothing will ever change that.

my OPINION:
Anyways, my friend bought his psp on launch day. He had been ranting and raving about "how awsome it will be" ect. for months. Unfortunately, the the first PSP he got had 5 dead pixels. That's alot. So we took it back, got another one. Opened it on the spot. No dead pixels this time, however, upon putting in Wipeout, we found that the square button did not work. The third one had 1 dead pixel, however, you didn't notice it during gameplay, so he kept this one.

I'll admit, the psp does some cool stuff. Only problem is the battery life. My friend and I wanted to see how long the battery life ACTUALLY lasts. so we popped in the spider man 2 UMD that came with the system. We let it run until it died, replaying the movie when it ended. We did this after a full nights charge, wich should be enough for any rechargable battery. It clocks at aproximately 2 1/2 hours (a little less in actuality, but it matters not) We have yet to test gameplay, as we are waiting until we go on a road trip so it doesn't seem like we are wasting several hours of our lives trading off.\

Anyways, if you want a professional, unbiased as possible battery life article, this is the best one I've read to date. (and I've read several)


IGN's PSP battery life test

[Azier the Swordsman]

Since I typically go for the 'main games' in my favorite franchises and don't really care al whole lot for 'side games', the only way to really motivate me to buy the PSP is if they were to release 'Final Fantasy XII' or 'Resident Evil 5' on it, which of course won't happen.

(Side games are stuff like FF Tactics, RE: Survivor, ect. They are usually fun diversions in their own right, but I prefer going for the main stuff.)

[desperado]

one question ikimasu did you charge your psp completly before you played it? this seems to make the battery last a little longer