Pink Floyd

[Inferno]

oooo yah a thread about pink floyd! I just started liking them last Saterday. Yes they sound really cool! I'm thinking about getting one of their cds. Any addvice on wihich one I should buy?

[Inferno]

oooo yah a thread about pink floyd! I just started liking them last Saterday. Yes they sound really cool! I'm thinking about getting one of their cds. Any addvice on wihich one I should buy?

[shooraijin]

My essentials list for Floyd (I intentionally omit The Wall since personally I can't listen to it anymore):

- Dark Side of the Moon
- Wish You Were Here
- Meddle
- Relics
- Atom Heart Mother
- A Collection of Great Dance Songs (gets you a number of notable pieces in one album)
- The Division Bell

Nice ones to have:

- A Momentary Lapse of Reason
- David Gilmour "About Face"
- Piper at The Gates of Dawn
- Saucerful of Secrets
- Ummagumma

Obscurities of interest:

- Obscured by Clouds
- Soundtrack to More
- Zabriskie Point (has other bands on it also)
- Works (getting harder to find for some reason)
- A Nice Pair (careful with the cover art, Eugene)
- any of the Syd Barrett solo albums
- Roger Waters' Radio KAOS

Completists only:

- Most of the other Waters solo albums (I didn't even like "Amused to Death" that much)
- Live Berlin Wall redux (rather stale)

[Blitzkrieg1701]

Where's "Animals"? Banished along with "The Wall"?

[Zane]

Sadly I missed the start of this thread; but I came across Pink about 3 years ago with THE WALL Cd in the Library, got it out and was suprised to find it really motivated and almost politically driven to make a point about society, not just you're average 70/80s rock. And the fact that the entire album looped around on itself, with all the songs leading onto the next. A very musically gifted piece that one. But like many others I don't listen to it much, if at all, because (i think) now that I know Christ (i didn't before) theres no reason to listen to such moody and depressing music anymore. For Christ is control and there is no reason to be in a dark mood.

Dark Side of the Moon, on the other hand, is never far from my CD Player, (none of them are actually) and I LOVE "Any colour you like", its just super!!! Thats a greqt album aswell.

I've listened to abit of wish you where here... the song itself is great.

(good thread Shatterheart)

[shooraijin]

Where's "Animals"? Banished along with "The Wall"?

Animals wasn't my favourite album. I do like Sheep, even though the satire (so to speak) of Psalm 23 never sat that well with me, but it's loud and harks back to their art rock days in its complexity. However, Dogs has clever lyrics but is far too long, and I can't really recommend Pigs (Three Different Ones) mostly because it's ultimately an extended ad hominem attack on various contemporary British conservatives disguised as a rock song, something I lump in with Michael Jackson using his microphone to lambaste his prosecutors in pop music (yes, he really did this).

Since Sheep is on ACoGDS, I recommend that one instead to get the flavour.

[PumpkinKoRn52]

Money is actually in 7/4 time. I still don't know how Nick Mason played through that.

It wasn't that hard for him to. He played it by hitting the snare on 2, 4, and 6, the bass drum on 1, 3, 5, 7. He also used a crash on 7.

In Money, the last little segment of each stanza somewhat changes to 6/4, then 8/4, then back to 7/4.

[shooraijin]

The only time signature change is to 4/4 for the extended guitar solo (a suggestion by Gilmour to make it move more freely), and back to 7/4 for the last verse. There are no intra-stanza changes.

Money
Roger Waters: "I was just fiddling around on the bass at Broadhurst Gardens and I came up with that riff, seven beats long. The rest of the song developed after I thought, Let's make a record about the pressures that impinge upon young people in pop groups, one of which is money. "It doesn't sound to me like a song that just started to pour out of me, it doesn't feel close enough to the nature of my being, so I'm sure it was written to become specifically part of Dark Side Of The Moon.
"I then thought it would be good as an introduction to create a rhythmic device using the sound of money. I had a two-track studio at home with a Revox recorder. My first wife [Judy Trim] was a potter and she had a big industrial food mixer for mixing up clay. I threw handfuls of coins and wads of torn-up paper into it. We took a couple of things off sound effects records too. "The backing track was everyone playing together, a Wurlitzer piano through a wah wah, bass, drums and that tremolo guitar. One of the ways you can tell that it was done live as a band is that the tempo changes so much from the beginning to the end. It speeds up fantastically."

Engineer Alan Parsons: "The core of the song is a bass riff with a guitar an octave apart in 7/4. It's quite magical in that you don't really notice it. The vocal is Dave] overdubbed the tom toms in the middle section. The arrangements were all worked out before, except the dynamics of the long solo when it breaks down to nothing. The solo came together in the studio but once he had it, he always replicated it note for note in concert."

The first two guitar solos were played on a Stratocaster going through a Hi-Watt amp, the first being ADTed (automatically doubled) on the mix. For the third solo Gilmour switched to a Lewis guitar with a twooctave neck, making it easier to play higher notes. For the solo section Gilmour suggested changing the time signature from 7/4 into 4/4, before returning to 7/4 for the rest of the song. The sax was added late in October by Gilmour's friend from Cambridge pub jazz days, [Richard ... should be something else, stupid censor] Parry. Gilmour says he gave Parry the daunting instruction to play like the sax man in the cartoon band who did the theme music for Pearl k Dean's ad sequence at the cinema in those days. Like the backing vocals on Time, Parry's solo was fed through a Frequency Translator.

Composer: Waters.
Track sheet: Bass, drums, Wurlitzer, vocal, sax, guitar doubling bass, tremolo Kepexed guitar, guitar solo, solo ADT, money FX.

Recording began: June 7, 1972.

[PumpkinKoRn52]

It's not really a time change, it's more of a accent on 6 to make it sound like it changed.

[shooraijin]

That's syncopation. I'm not sure what you mean by "sound like it changed," since they weren't changing it.

EDIT: In fact, now that I play it through in my head, there's no syncopation there, even, and I don't hear any change in beat accent on the recording, so where are you getting this from?

[PumpkinKoRn52]

it sounds like it goes from 7 to 6 to 8 and back too 7.

A lot of things can soud like different time signatures than they are.

[shooraijin]

it sounds like it goes from 7 to 6 to 8 and back too 7.

A lot of things can soud like different time signatures than they are.

You're going to have to back this up with the sheet music, then. With all due respect, I've got nothing here that says that on my tablatures.

[PumpkinKoRn52]

During this part:

New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think I'll buy me a football team.

It sounds as if they break into 8 and 6 then go back to 7, but they are actually playing in 7 the whole time.

[Stephen]

Bump for a member.

[christianfriend]

Pink Floyd! I love that band! My brother has always been a fan of this band..so of course..that makes me a fan! Actualy..my whole family likes this band ^^

[Yeshua-Knight]

if you like pink floyd, you might be interested to know that a christian band named Apologetix has done a christian parody of brick in the wall called kick in the wall about joshua and the battle of jericho, it's really a good song, so you may want to look into it, later

[christianfriend]

"brick in the wall" Is my fav song..so I think I will look into it ^^ thanks for the info!

[Mizumi-Kun]

Hey! I posted a thread about The Wall. Then it got locked. Oh well.

[christianfriend]

>>edit<<

[Mizumi-Kun]

To what you guys were saying about Money and the time siganture change, David Gilmour, co-writer of the song, said in an interview on the Dark Side Of The Moon: Making Of DVD that the time signature changed, and it was supported by writer Roger Waters. If you want more info, look into the DVD (which I own), and watch the Money chapter.

P.S. Rereading over what you guys said earlier, they only made mention of David's guitar solo where the signature changes.

[Stephen]

Hey! I posted a thread about The Wall. Then it got locked. Oh well

Yes, thats because I locked it. In the future use the search feature and make sure topics have not already been covered. This thread was only a few pages back. Check the dates yourself.

As far as Apolojetix goes...I found there cover of Floyd rather lame. Then again, I never have had much respect for cover or parady bands.

[Yeshua-Knight]

well, it can be something of an acquired taste i guess...

[Mizumi-Kun]

As far as Korn's cover of Another Brick in the Wall; Pt. 1, 2, & 3, I much prefer Pink Floyd's version. I don't say I don't like Korn's version, but personally, I think they made one mistake by covering it: they tampered with a concept album. It takes the meaning and signifigance out of the songs, and puts them in a different context. It would be like if me and our band went out and rerecorded Jesus of Suburbia or Homecoming; it just wouldn't make as much sense.

[Mizumi-Kun]

As far as Korn's cover of Another Brick in the Wall; Pt. 1, 2, & 3, I much prefer Pink Floyd's version. I don't say I don't like Korn's version, but personally, I think they made one mistake by covering it: they tampered with a concept album. It takes the meaning and signifigance out of the songs, and puts them in a different context. It would be like if me and our band went out and rerecorded Jesus of Suburbia or Homecoming; it just wouldn't make as much sense.

[Mizumi-Kun]

As far as Korn's cover of Another Brick in the Wall; Pt. 1, 2, & 3, I much prefer Pink Floyd's version. I don't say I don't like Korn's version, but personally, I think they made one mistake by covering it: they tampered with a concept album. It takes the meaning and signifigance out of the songs, and puts them in a different context. It would be like if me and our band went out and rerecorded Jesus of Suburbia or Homecoming; it just wouldn't make as much sense.

[Mizumi-Kun]

As far as Korn's cover of Another Brick in the Wall; Pt. 1, 2, & 3, I much prefer Pink Floyd's version. I don't say I don't like Korn's version, but personally, I think they made one mistake by covering it: they tampered with a concept album. It takes the meaning and signifigance out of the songs, and puts them in a different context. It would be like if me and our band went out and rerecorded Jesus of Suburbia or Homecoming; it just wouldn't make as much sense.

[Mizumi-Kun]

Sorry 'bout the multiple posts, my comp was acting up...

[Daniel_p_Diddy]

WOW You Like Pink Floyd!!!!! I love Pink Floyd!

[CephasWhite]

Pink Floyd!!

[Daniel_p_Diddy]

YEAH!!! I Love Pink Floyd