waking up the sleeping christian heart...

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waking up the sleeping christian heart...

Postby supa dupa ninja » Sat Oct 04, 2003 8:38 pm

aprove or disaprove.
thats the question we shall discuss with my topic.
back where I came from (clue its not in america) we tried to renew and refresh the christian fate. some christians made cool posters of a younger looking jesus. theres the biker jesus, the rapper jesus, the street racer, jesus the Basketball playa' etc. do you guys think that the OLD church should accept change or stay as the old gloomy self?

and about the cool jesus posters I can't find 'em through the net though.
if somebody did please show it to every one.
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Postby TheMelodyMaker » Sat Oct 04, 2003 10:49 pm

Let me ask a question of my own: Is it right to portray our Saviour as being anything short of God Himself?
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Postby Technomancer » Sun Oct 05, 2003 3:35 am

Something of a slanted question, since some of us don't consider the church "gloomy", and have a deep attachment to the art, music and tradition. It should not be a question of throwing out what has gone before, but realizing what is of value to us and shaping it for a modern world. Unfortunately, I can't go into the depth I'd like too since I have a flight this morning...
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Postby sskg0tt0 » Sun Oct 05, 2003 4:50 am

personaly,i dont like those sorts of things.thats just me.
ill say this thoough use anything to spread his word,so long as it doesnt go agianst his word.wether i "like" the idea or not doesnt matter alot,as long as it opens peoples minds and harts

as for old and new..im sure there is room enuf for all in our lords house
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Postby EireWolf » Sun Oct 05, 2003 2:52 pm

sskg0tt0 wrote:as for old and new..im sure there is room enuf for all in our lords house


Hear, hear! :thumb:

Some churches are having a really hard time trying to appeal to both young and old, "modern" and traditional. I don't know how to resolve that problem, except that we all need to be flexible. It's not about having our own way; it's about loving one another and serving God. Some churches try to solve the issue by having a service with traditional music, and a seperate one with more contemporary music. That's okay, but it tends to segregate the congregation instead of bringing all kinds of people together.

My church is pretty small, but it spans many different demographics. Several different races, a wide range of ages, differing worldviews and political beliefs.... And we all love each other. It's quite amazing. As for the music, it has a wide range also. We do some traditional hymns, some contemporary choruses, some music that laypeople have written, a variety of styles, etc. It's the healthiest church I've ever seen, overall.

I don't know if I answered your question, ninja, but I thought I'd throw in my $.02. :)
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Postby Kat Walker » Mon Oct 06, 2003 2:17 pm

I rebuke you, evil demon of double-posts!!!

:comp: take that!

Um, reply below.... :stressed:
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Postby Kat Walker » Mon Oct 06, 2003 2:18 pm

I get kind of apprehensive when people do those kinds of things, slap Jesus on a t-shirt or try to market him to certain demographics...Melody Maker has a good point, why try to portray our Lord as anything short of who he is? But that's just concerning the image of God Himself...I cringe even when I see a classic painting of Jesus as some long-haired, white, hippy-looking guy -- how on Earth do we know what he looked like back then, much less could we ever guess how glorious he is now? And to see Jesus wearing sunglasses and holding a skateboard on a sign that says "It's cool to love Jesus!" ......*shudders* My God deserves a bit more reverence than THAT.

I do appreciate that Christianity has embraced youth and our ever-changing culture however, with their music and fashion and whatnot, and breaking the sterotypes of the uptight church. THAT is progressive and helpful, but the only thing we should be marketing is the gospel...not to mention i don't think alot of that "Jesus Junk" will help people take salvation seriously. They'd probably just....laugh.
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