Visions, demons, and voices

[crossalchemist]

This feels a little awkward talking about this but I feel that it would be a good thing to see what you guys think about this. I have been having visions since I was about nine years old and have seen what could only be described as 'demons' since I was four and it is becasue of these things that I became a Christian. However, I am never able to talk to anyone about it because I am always blown off as a nut or a heretic, but for some reason I think tha you guys might listen and help me out.
I have seen several visions, most of which are about the future. These visions can at times get scary and intense, but the visions are nothing compared to sights I see on a daily basis. Everyday I am followed by demons. Usually its the same one and it just watches me, but sometimes there are a lot of them. The one that is always there is a man dressed all in black. All he ever does is stand there and stare. He's here right now, watching as I type. They only became hostile once, and that was a while ago, I don't think they will again. Only I ever see these things, I know this because I have asked other people if they see it. I have also heard voices. There have been many different voices, but there is one that I heard a lot. This voice is not something that I hear just in my head, I have heard it out loud, but only I hear it. This voice is not a demon, it tells me things that work with the Bible (I know all the tests of visions well, I have had to use them several times.) There are times where this voice tells me what to do. One time I was in a little street shop and the voice started screaming at me to get out of the shop. I suddenly started sweating and my heart was pounding. I got out of there and latter found out that the people who owned the shop were Satanists/Occultists and were burning a type of incense that was made from blood.
Suffice to say all of this is wierd, but it is all really happening and I am not crazy. I just don't know what to do. If anyone can offer me any advice conserning visions and voices and demons please do so. Everything I've learned about them I've learned on my own because either on one believes me or no one wants to talk about the fact that there is a spiritual world. Prayers would be nice as well.

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[shooraijin]

I'm going to move this to Prayer Requests, since I think that's more appropriate there.

[crossalchemist]

I'm going to move this to Prayer Requests, since I think that's more appropriate there.

Gotcha, didn't exactly know where to post it, heh...

[agasfas]

Where to start...
First off let me say I don't believe your crazy by any means. Why? because Jesus cased out many demons when on earth
Examples:

Mark 1:26 (NIV) The evil spirit shook the man violently and came out of him with a shriek.

Luke 4:33,35 (NIV) In the synagogue there was a man possessed by a demon, an evil spirit. He cried out at the top of his voice... "Be quiet!" Jesus said sternly. "Come out of him!" Then the demon threw the man down before them all and came out without injuring him.

I'm no bible scholar and never do I claim so, but my guess is perhaps Satan is trying to feed you deceptions and lies. The bible mentions in Romans 6:16 and Psalm 106:39 (summarized) that you belong to the power you obey. You can either choose dark or light. It's a free choice. But I do believe you.

Question: Have you ever stated with your mouth for them to leave, that God will protect you from them?
I ask this because Satan will try and scare you to not do so. But Jesus spoke demons out all the time. Stand up and proclaim it w/ your mouth. WOrd are powerful tools we have, I mean God tossed out demons with only his words and heck, he even spoke this Universe in existances.

But my guess is that there may be a spiritcal warfare going one.

his voice is not a demon, it tells me things that work with the Bible (I know all the tests of visions well, I have had to use them several times.) There are times where this voice tells me what to do. One time I was in a little street shop and the voice started screaming at me to get out of the shop

It seems as though God is helping you, giving you the tools to help fight it. I've never been in your situation so it's hard for me to advice you on this, but I will say stand up and speak directly to these demons. Remember, God states we are slaves to the power/influence you buy into.

OH! I got it, this page may be a bit biased and conservative but check out: http://www.bible.com/answers/ademons.html
It talks about how demons can take on human form, walk, talk etc....

Sorry if I wasn't much help.
I'll be praying for you brother. Remain strong!

Edit: I also want to state, sinse Warrior 4 Jesus pointed out... that I'm not endorsing this site--not saying I agree or not. I just thought that may help you get another insight about the situation. Hopefully this may help.

[Warrior 4 Jesus]

I agree with that article except the bit saying demons can reside within Christian's, I believe they can't. They can opress us, but not posses us.
Anyway, I''ll be praying for you mate!

[Warrior 4 Jesus]

I agree with that article except the bit saying demons can reside within Christian's, I believe they can't. They can opress us, but not posses us.
Anyway, I''ll be praying for you mate!

[CDLviking]

I don't know what your denomination is, but I will tell you what I would do as a Catholic. I would try and find a priest with a background in spiritual warfare and seek his help. An exorcism or someone with a lot of experience in this area could really help you I think. Not all priests will be comfortable with this because not all of them receive that kind of training. If no priest you know can refer you to one who does, you could try calling the diocese offices and see if there are any exorcists in the diocese who could give you some help.

[TrigunX89]

I don't think you're crazy. I will definately pray for you. Heck, I'll go do it right now. I think it would be good to take CDLviking's advice and see a pastor. But like I said, I will pray for you. Keep us posted.

[ShiroiHikari]

I find it disturbing that any true Christian would call you a nut for seeing visions and demons. demons are VERY real, trust me, I know. it's bad that even many Christians are starting to quit believing in demons and spiritual things.

so in short, I don't think you're crazy. ^^; but I also don't really have any good advice except to echo what the others have said. you should find a pastor or someone else in leadership that would understand.

I'll pray for you.

[true_noir_chloe]

Only by the power of Jesus' name can any demon be cast out or told to leave. You can't say, "go away" of your own power.

"By the Name of Jesus Christ, leave!" ^____^

Faith has to be there.

I will pray for you. I grew up with the same gifts and lived in a household full of demons, because of the heavy drug traffic, satanists and actual incantations my sister would try to pray around my room, because I was a Christian.

Satan is real. The spiritual realm is real; but, it does NOT have any power over a believer, whatsoever. The operative word, "power."

I could never tell the women in my church what gifts I've been given and you'll learn that that really isn't important, to spout to the world your spiritual gifts. What is important is to use it to His glory. His voice should be very loud (His Words, your prayer life, your faith) with a gift of discernment and all that comes with it (ektabilism, dreams, visions and faith).

Now, actual, physical voices, cause me to worry. God speaks very loudly, but not in an actual voice. Moses needed to hide in the cleft of a rock, and was one of the few men who actually walked alongside God and verbally spoke with Him. You cannot, at this time in God's plan actually HEAR God's voice. We'd have tons of problems of cults and new revelation added, if anyone who said they heard God's voice was believed (which we do to some extent today ). God's Word is already written and is complete, the final fulfillment will be when He comes again. Remember, everything, dreams or visions, is to do what? It is to tell others of Christ and to be a witness. Everything now, in this day and age from the inception of Scripture until Christ comes again, is about His salvation.

When I've had dreams and visions it was always purposeful. It was always because I had to be strong and continue witnessing to someone, when I maybe would have been frightened to do so. The dream, or vision, always strengthened me to go on and the person was saved. This time, now, is for one purpose, for others to know Christ. So, if your dreams and visions are accomplishing the furtherance of the Gospel, then that is how you know it is real. Read all of I Corinthians, from front to back and see why gifts are given. Always remember the reason of the gift - it is for the message of Christ.

God has told me things many times, but it is a voice that is unexplainable. You sound like you have all the physical traits, the pounding in the ears, feeling panicky almost in your heart, those are definite signs of a discerning heart, but I question the actual "vocal." Forgive me if I offend you here.

Why is that demon in black walking around following you? What is your past? He shouldn't even be around if you are a believer who has proclaimed His name. In the past, I've had so many people deep in the occult try to tell me they could hurt me with their demonic powers and "nothing." My younger sister called forth demons all the time and they ended up hanging out with her, not me. My eldest sister is a leader of Celtic witches and paganism in Missouri, and she can't get close. It irks her to no end. She's divorced, lost her kids and is bitter. I'm happily married, blessed with my kids, and God walks with me. God is so much more than some demons.

Faith will get you through this and prayer. Decide now who is your master - Jesus Christ or you and a gift?

I'll pray for you, but in time you shouldn't be bothered by any demons whatsoever. You will still see them, but in passing. I'm sorry you seem very frustrated and alone. You are NEVER alone with God. Get involved in His word and deep prayer, on your knees if you have to. It's very important.

I'm praying for you. ^________^

[termyt]

I certainly don't think you are a nut, and from your description it doesn't sound like a possession, either. I would continue to seek professional help within your denomination (first, if no one listens, then go elsewhere). Demons and angels are very real, but it is not often that one actually sees them. I understand the skepticism to you receive - this sort of thing just doesn't happen to most people.

However, that makes it no less real for you. I don't like the thought of you facing it alone, though, that worries me. Please look diligently for someone of strong faith you can share with and get help from.

[wilson1112000]

I have read a book on demons in my church. I have heard alot of stories about demons who have worn the exact same clothing as linwood described. I, myself have seen-a-man of rags, a demon that appears as a clutter of rags, floteing in the middle of the floor. I would like to say that it has left, but I don't know. My opinion is that, with the demons, walk up to them, look at them in the eye, and tell them this. "You already know you lost me. It would be best if you stay out of my way, not because I'll do something to you, but because God will!"

[SilverFang]

I truly dont theank you are crazy. I had my own event in wich a demon did get violent with me. in which I felt as if I was being forst out of my own body. I realy only told one person about what happend. and he is a very good freand of mine. I theank that was the knight I truly became a christian. I want ever forget that night. it felt like a life time. so you are not alone. at time I can still feel that monster around me,

I will pray for you.

[crossalchemist]

Thanks guys,
It's very encouraging to hear that I am not the only one who has these things happen to them. One thing that you guys might find interesting though: recently I tried to confront one of the demons and he disappeared. It was the strangest thing. All I can figure is that they sense Christ in me.

Also about the demon in black. I just read C.S. Lewis's Screwtape Letters, and in that Lewis seems to alude to that there are demons assigned to each of us to moniter us. I think in chapter four a demon's person becomes a Christian but he is told to continue monitering him so that should there ever be a chance to use him to scare others away from Christianity the demon could use it. What do you guys think of that? Could this be what the demon in black is?

[TrigunX89]

Ah, I've been meaning to read that book... Yes, that is very possible. I'm not really an expert though. I'll continue to pray for you. That's all I really know to do. All the advice I know has been given by others here. I don't really have anything else to contribute, so I think I'll stay out of this for now. I will keep watching this thread though, and pray for you as well.

Lord, I pray for linwood right now. I thank you that he is here with us, and that he knows You. Father, I pray that you would deliver him from these demons and visions in the Name of Jesus. Set him free.

Satan, I bind you in the Name of Jesus from haunting linwood. You have no place in his life, and I command you to leave this instant in Jesus name! Leave him and never come back, in the Holy Name of Jesus Christ of Nazereth!

I thank you, Lord Jesus, for giving us the power to triumph over evil. I pray that you would pour out your Holy Spirit among each one of us today, and anoint linwood with your peace and grace. I thank you Lord, in Jesus' name. Amen.

[Kaligraphic]

What do you guys think of that? Could this be what the demon in black is?

Perhaps. They can look different to different people. (dark clothing seems to be common for some reason, but isn't universal - black suits, your own description, I've seen one that looked like one of the knights who say ni (from Monty Python and the Holy Grail))

(and yes, God and the devil can both talk. Don't go chasing after an audible voice from God (because if your focus is on a voice, demons are happy to oblige), but don't assume that God can't or won't talk anymore.)

Remember that God's nature is spiritual, not physical. Spirit existed before flesh, and can actually be regarded as a more basic, and, in a way, more real level. (For the weapons ofour warfare are not carnal (fleshly, physical), but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds (2cor 10:14)) In the first chapter of Revelation, the word of the Lord is compared to a sword (and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword). Remember that the sword of the spirit is the word of God. Mark 16:17 starts out "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils" - it's the first thing listed. Jesus has a name which is set above every other name - meaning that His name has authority over all others. You have access to that authority because you have access to that name.

Three tips: one, never listen to what demons say - whether it's true, false, or half-true, it's calculated to harm you. Just don't listen.

Two, find other believers that you can share this openly with. A cord of many strands is not easily broken and all that. What the devil really fears isn't Christians filling pews on sundays, but the assembly of the saints. You are a saint (and not a sinner, no matter how much the devil may be in denial), and as such, when God knits your heart together with other believers, you form an integral part of a vast body of believers. That body is what the devil is afraid of on the earth - the body of which Jesus is the head)

Three, remember that all of your old sinful nature was crucified long ago, and a perfect, sinless, holy identity was resurrected in you (christ). You're holy because God makes you holy. Nothing that you did or didn't do in the past can take away the holiness that God has chosen to offer you, because you can always play the "cross trump card". You don't have to just sit there and accept what the devil tries to do, you have authority over your life, and you can order the devil out. (the only way that the devil can stay in your life is with your permission or your acknowledgement of its mastery over you in an area. You can ditch him with a "the part of me you controlled died about 2000 years ago. I am a saint, and by Jesus name, I'm kicking you out!")

[Retten]

Hmm you know I never thought about making a thread on this but I was surpised to see someone else just like me. I have had serveral encounters with demons mostly before I was saved (age 9) they have always were after me....it was very scary growing up to say the least For instance when I was a babby my mother spent a whole night praying for me (and many days afterward) because the "angel of death" had come for me. He was allot like the black guy you described linwood excepte he was much lager and extremley evil/sikening looking luckly for me my mom went into prayer warrior mode! And he hasnt ever come back However, I still seen demons now and then though mostly just quick glances. But I can always feel when they are around I am able to sense their activity. For instance...I'm not sure what it is about this thread but I know that one is extremely close to me rite now watching as I type this out, kind of like what you were saying earlier linwood. Now for the dream part I actually enjoy those lol even though some would consider them nightmares they really don’t bother me for some reason...I think it has to do with he fact that I am saved. You see when ever I have a dream about demons/demonic forces its always an all out battle against them but with the help of someone in my dreams I always win! (in the last dream I had it was some really old guy but he gave me advice on how to defeat the demon and equipped me with the weapons to do so.) I have allot of vision of the future as well its amazing to me how many time I get the feeling I have already done something and then I will remember the dream I had and realize that I’m living it or the other way around where I remember the dream and know that something is going to happen later on. It’s weird but cool all I can say is that God is truly amazing! Unfortunately I don’t really have any advice to offer you other than what everyone else has said, I haven’t ever thought of it as much of a problem my self its just a unique gift that God has given us is all

[Azier the Swordsman]

Question: Can you see the demons 24/7, or is it just in certain instances? And do you ever see angels?

The spiritual is very real and it is possible to be able to see into it at certain times. (I, myself, have even had a glimpse into it and seen angels before.)

While it's true the audible voice would not have been God's actual voice, there are angels assigned to protect and watch over you. Most likely that's what you heard. But as Chole said, don't go after voices, or demons will be happy to oblige.

As for the demon in black, do you ever see similar demons watching OTHER people, or are you limited in how many you can actually see?

[Debitt]

I can echo what others have said by telling you, linwood, that you are not a nut. My friends, my family, and I have all had encounters with demons, and they are very frightening and very real. But remember that as believers, we have the Lord on our side, and with His word and with prayer he gives us an advantage against Satan's minions.

Have you ever heard of a series called the Forbidden Doors? I can't recall the author's name off the top of my head, but it's a Christian series that deals with spiritual warfare, and the books make it very clear that demons hold no power over us as Christians. The only way a demon can continue to torment you is if you allow it to. Tell a demon to leave and it will - let it know that the Holy Spirit is with you, and you don't have any room in your life for the Devil. I will most certainly keep you in my prayers, linwood.

[Azier the Swordsman]

Have you ever heard of a series called the Forbidden Doors? I can't recall the author's name off the top of my head, but it's a Christian series that deals with spiritual warfare, and the books make it very clear that demons hold no power over us as Christians. The only way a demon can continue to torment you is if you allow it to. Tell a demon to leave and it will - let it know that the Holy Spirit is with you, and you don't have any room in your life for the Devil. I will most certainly keep you in my prayers, linwood.

The author's name is Bill Myers. Very good series.

[crossalchemist]

Question: Can you see the demons 24/7, or is it just in certain instances? And do you ever see angels?

The spiritual is very real and it is possible to be able to see into it at certain times. (I, myself, have even had a glimpse into it and seen angels before.)

While it's true the audible voice would not have been God's actual voice, there are angels assigned to protect and watch over you. Most likely that's what you heard. But as Chole said, don't go after voices, or demons will be happy to oblige.

As for the demon in black, do you ever see similar demons watching OTHER people, or are you limited in how many you can actually see?

I don't see the demons 24/7 anymore, recently they haven't been around as much, but I don't know if that is because they really arn't there or I am losing my ability to see them. I have never seen angels though, which seems kind of strange. I have often wondered why I can see the movements of the enemy but not those of the ones whose side I am on?
I have never actually seen demons around other people, but I am able to percieve things aboutpeople. As an example, once when I was talking to someone an image flashed in my mind of them huddled in a dark corner all chained up. As it turned out later that person was having some deep spritual problems.

[Yojimbo]

Demons and spirits are a very real thing. Their power comes from the fact that many people believe they don't exist. Now I've never seen a demon but I believe the reason they look the way they do to many people, is because that kind of imagery is something we're trained to fear through books, movies, etc. Of course they hold no power over a true believer as other's have said. Satan's time of "ruling" the Earth ended and the coming of Jesus will be his final defeat.

[Adol]

Please allow me to add an aditional perspective...
I have a story I think you should know. One of the elders of my church used to hear voices in his head several years ago. Originally, he thought he was going crazy. I'm not sure how he figured it out, but for some reason he stopped using his favorite brand of cologne, and he has never heard the voices since. I can tell you a way to test this.
Go on a trip sometime, without any of your processed products you normally use. Maybe take a camping trip away from whatever toxins you might introduce to your system in a regular day. Stay on the trip for about a week. If your visions and/or voices you hear go away or fade almost completely, then you might need to investigate your own living situation.
The others in this thread have made good points about the spiritual side of such a predicament, but I would like to reinforce what Kaligraphic said. Demons are spirits of rebellion. Anything they say can likely be considered wrong and should be ignored.
Another thing to consider is have you taken any mind altering drugs such as ritalin? My brother took it about 6 years ago, and had the side effect of having a small seizure every couple minutes or so. He was given another mind altering drug to combat the seizures, but it had side effects too. This spiralled downward until my parents had had enough of those quacks and decided to go cold turkey. My brother is now unable to take care of himself, much less get ANY job he is so out of whack. Now he thinks his left hand is possesed. This is my own issue, and I don't want to derail your thread, but just be aware of the different things that can cause you such problems.

If you are %100 sure it is a spiritual issue you are dealing with (after taking my highly recommended get-away test ) then keep praying to the Lord. If you are frightened by a particular vision, remember you can call on his name, just like "Oh Lord Jesus!". Just saying his name is powerful, even in any daily situation you may run into. May the Lord be with your spirit, grace be with you.

[Heart of Sword]

Hey, I've had visions, seen demons, and heard voices.

I think God gives certain people that ability.

For example, my mom was attacked and pinned down by a demon once and she also saw one looking in on her from a window while she was playing with an ouija board.

It does not make you a "nutcase", it makes you gifted. ^_^

Though seeing/sensing demons IS scary................

And it doesn't make you psychic either, as long as you aren't trying to speak with them and such.

About visions. I'll have them once in a while, usually before someone, especially a pet, dies. I had a parakeet once named Blizzard (affectionately called Blizzy), and I woke up one morning knowing somehow that he was going to die. He was acting fine--chirping, being perky and all--yet the next day, he was suddenly struck with something and died within about fifteen minutes.

I'll get "feelings". I had one just a little while ago that something bad was going to happen. My dad was going to drive to the airport in the snow and I was sure that the "something bad" was going to happen to him. Suddenly, a friend came into the house, looking for the phone: she was running away. (she changed her mind though.)

Once while I was living in Georgia with relatives for a short while (they're pagans), I saw/sensed a demon in the living room. It's hard to explain, though, but I knew it was there and that was just about the scariest moment of my life.

I've also heard voices in the church with my mom: talking and laughing, very loud, but all the lights were out in there--when we investigated, we found the church to be empty. I've also heard voices in the balcony.

[YoukoKuramaFan]

woow! I have a friend who can see these things, and her mom gets really freaked out by it!

[YoukoKuramaFan]

i can kinda sense their presensce though....

[Heart of Sword]

Yeah and your friend has also seen Hiei running next to you.

Youko...hate to tell ya...but Hiei doesn't exist... *gets beaten by Youko's shonen jumps*

ORO!!

[Kaligraphic]

Im just wondering, you DO know that EVERY believer of Christ DO have a holy spirit that is in them right?

go check out 1 corr 12!! that one chapter i believe ..hopefully should answer all your questions ^^

to summarize it...

v3 -> go and say 'Jesus is Lord', if u can say that whole heartedly, that man in black that has been telling u what to do, etc IS from God, as simple as that. How can I be sure? because the bible assures you many times that ppl that have the right relationship definately have his holy spirit! and u can only have 1 spirit at a time either God's or this world's (dont believe me? go read Romans 8)

Go look at a potted plant. Are you a potted plant? Not everything you see is yourself, and not every spirit is of God. Just because I have a holy spirit in me doesn't necessarily make every spirit that I see similarly holy.

Basically, blindly listening to this "man in black" just because of your own identity is foolishness.

[Pigeon4x]

I'll pray for you.

From the time I was like 3 I've heard voices, so I know what you mean about them not being in your head, but only you hear them. Although, I'm not fortunate enough to have voices look out for me. I heard them all the time form ages 3-7 and then they mostly disapeered. I can still hear them occasionally if I'm in a very, very weakened physical or mental state.
They're always very angry and yelling, but the weird thing is, it's not always in english. Sometimes I can understand them perfectly and sometimes i can't. I remember once where they yelled at me in japanese and once when they yelled in english, but backwards.

I don't see anything strange. Although, at times, like right now. I get chills. Just one after another that makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up, and I could swear something there, but there never is.

And as far as visions go, I don't really know what you'd call them, other than seeing the future. I can remember one time especially when I was 11. I spent all day looking for this little electronic digimon thing. Didn't find it. I went to bed and had a dream that i walked into my famiy room, opened a cabinet, and found it under a camera. The next morning I took the same exact steps and found it in he same exact place. The lastest one was a dream I had last year a few days after Christmas. I saw my english teacher leaning over a desk and in a very enthusiastic voice said "Order nowand we'll throw in the shoe strings for free!!". Now obviouslyI shrugged this off when i had it, but on Tuesday of this week, he really did that.

Anyway, didn't mean to ramble on. I'll keep you in my prayers though.

[Heart of Sword]

Yeah visions can be scary...o_O I've had ones about people/animals (especially animals--especially my pets) dying and then they do. So it really bothers me when I have a dream about someone close to me dying, I'll lose sleep on it, but usually it's just a dream...makes you wonder though........

I wonder why that happens???