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Postby c.t.,girl » Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:08 pm

i was talking to my friend today about how ppl who are homeless don't go to the shelters because they have to give up all that they have. and i came up with something that i think might actaully work but would take a lot of money. course i wouldn't make them pay after they got back on their feet it would just be something generous to help them.

okay so if i had like lots of money i would like buy all the empty buildings that were like really big and have the homeless like live in there for like as long as they need fo course we would be checking up on them but as nicely as possible.

now the issue with the stuff. i would have colors/shapes to signify who's was who's stuff so that no one would have to worry where it was. of course they would have their own rooms and they would wear a bracelet for the volunteers to help them to their rooms, oh off the subjet. anywho yah they would have that. we would put it in a sutable bag or whatever so it would not fall apart and scatter all over.

now if the person had a pet with them, there would be a place for the pets and they too would have a colar or whatever to match the owner's bracelet that way no confusion.

there would have to be cameras too so that no one stole anything or trued to kill anyone.

ppl would have bathrooms in their rooms too so they wouldn't have to share.

and for the ppl with disabilities and not, each person would sign in in their own way and tell the person who is watching them sign in what their special needs would be and the person would put it in a log to keep track. i guess their would also have to be a voluteer doctor to make sure we would be doing everything right and help out.

i would love to do this one day if i ever came into lots of money. this has been on my mind since i can remember so it was way before today at skool. ^_^ does anyone else have coments or more suggestions?
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Postby Jaltus-bot » Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:15 pm

That would be awesome. It might benefit from some of the programs that places like the Union Rescue Mission and possibly some others have. I did a group project for a class on the Rescue mission last year. http://www.urm.com/CC_Content_Page/0,,P ... ID,00.html sorry, I don't know how to make that a link.
That could definitely be something to pray about. :) it would be awesome if that worked out.
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Postby c.t.,girl » Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:22 pm

it's actually been on my heart since i was like 6 and that was the first time i saw someone on the streets asking for money. my parents tried to make the world seem like it was all hunky dory but i firgured it out quick. i would actually do this if this was what God wanted or someone else may take this idea and use it just as long as they didn't try to make a profit. i hate it when they try to do that! :shady: oh and also i would have them to be able to eat in their rooms or have a huge dining hall for all to eat at. and maybe have like a lil dress up area where they could make themselves feel like they were at a royal ball!! that would be sooo cool!
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"The advice I like to give young artists, or really anybody who’ll listen to me, is not to wait around for inspiration. Inspiration is for amateurs; the rest of us just show up and get to work. If you wait around for the clouds to part and a bolt of lightning to strike you in the brain, you are not going to make an awful lot of work. All the best ideas come out of the process; they come out of the work itself. Things occur to you. If you’re sitting around trying to dream up a great art idea, you can sit there a long time before anything happens. But if you just get to work, something will occur to you and something else will occur to you and something else that you reject will push you in another direction. Inspiration is absolutely unnecessary and somehow deceptive. You feel like you need this great idea before you can get down to work, and I find that’s almost never the case." - Chuck Close[/color]
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Postby Stephen » Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:25 pm

As long as my taxes don't get spiked to fund this. Don't take me as cold...because I am sure there are homeless people who don't deserve it...but if you chose drinking over your family....don't suck my funds dry because your too lazy to work. There are plenty of jobs in this country...some good...some crappy. Enough to live on.
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Postby Jaltus-bot » Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:25 pm

If there is anything I can ever do...
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Postby Jaltus-bot » Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:28 pm

Shatterheart wrote:As long as my taxes don't get spiked to fund this. Don't take me as cold...because I am sure there are homeless people who don't deserve it...but if you chose drinking over your family....don't suck my funds dry because your too lazy to work. There are plenty of jobs in this country...some good...some crappy. Enough to live on.

Becoming homeless isn't always that simple. And then they can't get work if they wanted. no address, no number, no good work clothing.
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Postby Stephen » Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:29 pm

If its funded by private groups...fine...but if people expect the government to take care of it...its bascily communism to a T. Make the workers support the nation.
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Postby c.t.,girl » Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:30 pm

Shatterheart wrote:As long as my taxes don't get spiked to fund this. Don't take me as cold...because I am sure there are homeless people who don't deserve it...but if you chose drinking over your family....don't suck my funds dry because your too lazy to work.

i understand. you see we would ask about that too. plus it would be funded by me(if i got into tons of money) and by ppl who would want to donate money.

Shatterheart wrote:There are plenty of jobs in this country...some good...some crappy. Enough to live on.

maybe but a lot of them don't really have any qualifications and not many bussinesses like experianced ppl. so we could also help them obtain one so they can get a good job.
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Postby Ashley » Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:31 pm

I think it's a well meaning idea C.T., but I think you have some pratical problems to consider. For example, cameras are nice but they leave you with no sense of privacy. Bracelets can be easily forged/tampered with. And plus, the major hole in this is that some people sadly enough want to be homeless because they have an advantage: they can easily get people to pity them and give them free money so they don't have to go work. It's sad but true...I drive to downtown Houston every morning and see this. My parents and just about anyone in Houston can tell you of charitable gifts that went sour because some homeless people prefer to prey on your pity.

I think if you have a heart for the homeless, there are many shelters to get involved with. Star of Hope, for example, is a prominient one here, or the local food pantry. Lots of places need help over Thanksgiving and Christmas, but especially those times in between. I think that's the best way to really find out what the kind of situations you're talking about dealing with.
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Postby c.t.,girl » Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:42 pm

i understand and well it's late so my brain forget to type every detail and when i get ready to type what i was like thinking about two seconds ago i forget. so yah that's why i asked for suggestions.
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Postby Ashley » Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:49 pm

Again I'd encourage you to volunteer for a shelter, and maybe help them with establishing more job-training/employment agencies to help those that want to get back on their feet going again. You're right, not everyone who is homeless is a druggie or boozer; there are some real tragedies out there, so I do think you should help out those that earnestly want the help. But I'd encourage you to volunteer at a homeless shelter or something like it before you go off and start your own, if for nothing else the experience.
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Postby agasfas » Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:50 pm

I don't mind helping the needy when I can but here are some of my concerns:

In austin there are many homeless people. Realistically only about 1/10 of them are actually incapable of working due to physical restraints or other circumstances (like losing their job etc).
The other 9/10 of the people are people too lazy to work. Please, don't get me wrong. There are some out there who actually are truthful. But sometimes I actually carry around extra peanut butter and jelly sandwiches just in case. If I see a sign about being hungry I offer it in a kind manner, but almost 99% of the time they always say, "no, I don't want that. You have any change instead?" My thing is, I don't want them to go out and buy liquor or whatever they're addicted to. And truth is, some just don't want to work period. I hate to use that stereotype, but there are some really none honest people out there.

Though it's always nice to offer and try your best to help the needy, you always need to be careful who you offer help to. For example:
There was a story about a homeless guy w/ a sign that said "will work for food."
The lady took him home and he pretended to fall and sued her. I mean come on.

Another example: There are a group of people in Austin that go to different places w/ the sign "Out of town, car broke down. Need Gas money. Thanks"
I've actually seen them in about 100 different places doing that for about a year.

But when they don't want anything but a handout, well that's when I draw the line. If some of the people don't want to stay and fight, and use the gifts God gave them then I have no sympathy. There are some okay housings available for the people who do need it, but sadly they're not always the best option. Just be careful. I'm not saying don't help the needy, because frankly there are people out there that really do need it. And I actually grew up being really poor. I'm just saying to be careful, its easy to deceive others.

Also, if you really want to help, I would also agree w/ ashley; get out and help, volunteer .
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Postby c.t.,girl » Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:03 pm

i know. you guys and i actually am going with my friend to help. i haven't been able to do this stuff but i told my mom and she said okay so the next time my friend goes, i'm going too. i'm a sucker for helping ppl. like just today at lunch my friend was cold so i gave her my jacket. she gave it back but now i can't find it. lol! i forgot where i put it. but it's okay i mean it's just a jacket. so yah and i'll sometimes have like $5 and there will always be ppl who don't have a lunch and i'll give them my money and then another will come up to me and ask for some too and then i'm left with nothing. the thing is i don't mind. i feel good giving them money to help them even if i have nothing to eat or keep me warm.
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Postby agasfas » Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:08 pm

i'm a sucker for helping ppl.

I'm the same way :P. If someone needs help I always try my best to help. If someone needs some borrow some change or a couple dollars, I lend it. I don't even expect it back. It's only change. But if I lend a couple hundred I better get it back :P. Seriously though, keep the drive you have, it's always nice to help others. Not because it makes you feel better because it's just the right thing to do. That's what Jesus would expect from us; love your neighbor like yourself.
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Postby c.t.,girl » Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:14 pm

hm. i know! i don't expect anything either. it was funny one day i came to skool without money or a lunch. i asked this one girl who i give money to all the time basically and i asked her for some food and she went a balistic. i just backed away and asked someone else, who actually did help me. i still help her when she needs it. i'm very forgiving too so i just help whoever needs help, even if it's a person i truly can't stand...and their are a few...sadly. if i had the money i would probably give every homeless person i saw a hundred dallors. i never expect anything from anyone i think i said that already. :sweat:
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"The advice I like to give young artists, or really anybody who’ll listen to me, is not to wait around for inspiration. Inspiration is for amateurs; the rest of us just show up and get to work. If you wait around for the clouds to part and a bolt of lightning to strike you in the brain, you are not going to make an awful lot of work. All the best ideas come out of the process; they come out of the work itself. Things occur to you. If you’re sitting around trying to dream up a great art idea, you can sit there a long time before anything happens. But if you just get to work, something will occur to you and something else will occur to you and something else that you reject will push you in another direction. Inspiration is absolutely unnecessary and somehow deceptive. You feel like you need this great idea before you can get down to work, and I find that’s almost never the case." - Chuck Close[/color]
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Postby Fsiphskilm » Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:16 pm

[quote="Shatterheart"]As lon
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Postby c.t.,girl » Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:17 pm

can you imagine what the children go thru? v_v it makes me wanna cry.
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"The advice I like to give young artists, or really anybody who’ll listen to me, is not to wait around for inspiration. Inspiration is for amateurs; the rest of us just show up and get to work. If you wait around for the clouds to part and a bolt of lightning to strike you in the brain, you are not going to make an awful lot of work. All the best ideas come out of the process; they come out of the work itself. Things occur to you. If you’re sitting around trying to dream up a great art idea, you can sit there a long time before anything happens. But if you just get to work, something will occur to you and something else will occur to you and something else that you reject will push you in another direction. Inspiration is absolutely unnecessary and somehow deceptive. You feel like you need this great idea before you can get down to work, and I find that’s almost never the case." - Chuck Close[/color]
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Postby Fsiphskilm » Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:39 pm

i've seen "the working poor
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Wed Nov 10, 2004 9:59 am

i've seen "the working poor" people who have a job, and work to death and are still poor... as c.t.girl said, it really makes you want to cry.


this disturbs me more than outright homeless people. these people are trying so hard and still can't make it. that's what hurts me.
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Postby agasfas » Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:27 am

've seen "the working poor" people who have a job, and work to death and are still poor... as c.t.girl said, it really makes you want to cry.

his disturbs me more than outright homeless people. these people are trying so hard and still can't make it. that's what hurts me.

I will have to agree. Sometimes people try so far to make a life for themselves and family and still don't earn enough money to support themselves. It's really saddens me to see.

This is what really gets me:
In school I would always lend out supplies such as paper and pencils to people who ran out or forgot something at home. But for that one day I ran out of any supplies or forgot, the people I've lent things to in the past (on many occasions) refused to loan out a piece of paper or a pencil. And on top of that you know they have extras. This is a perfect example of how inappreciative some people can be. Their willing to take help but refuse to lend it.

Perhaps this can be implied to this topic as well. People are so unwilling to help out the needy, but when they need the help they'll take all the assistance they can get. It reminds me of the WWJD saying; if someone sincerely needs help, what would Jesus do?
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Postby EireWolf » Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:02 pm

You have a good heart, c.t.girl. It's wonderful that you want to help those most in need. It would be a good idea, as Ash mentioned, to help at existing homeless shelters as often as you can. Talk to the people that work there, as well as the people that come in for assistance. Try to find out what it is that would help them most -- not just enable them to continue getting free handouts, but truly help them.

One of the huge problems in the homeless population is mental disorders. Many of them just can't cope with everyday realities that the rest of us deal with (more or less) easily, such as going to work, paying bills, interacting with people on a normal level. Of course not all homeless people are like this, but many are. Unfortunately, someone in power decided a while back (via the 1971 Lanterman Act) that most of the people in mental institutions didn't really need to be there, and dumped them out onto the streets.

Then there are those who just don't want to work. It's easier to solicit handouts, and they don't care enough about quality of life issues to seek more than that. (I have very little pity for this group.)

And of course there are those who have had a run of bad luck, or made some bad decisions, and want to get back on their feet again. But it's hard to get a good job when you don't have an address or access to a shower, etc. Those are the people who would benefit from job training, coupled with a place to live.
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Postby c.t.,girl » Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:45 pm

now i'm sorta afaid to do this. i don't mean that what you guys have told me scares me but i myself scare me. i mean for some reason i've been having really weird moods, mostly i've been in a mean mood like i scream and throw stuff and well i told my friends that if they'd touch me that i might hurt them. i don't know what to do! well i mean yah i know that i must pray. and also i guess please pray for me that i stop getting like this. i get scared of myself sometimes cuz sometimes i start writing about killing myself. now i know i would never do that but i'm scared that something would really get to me and i would lose control of myself and actually do it. now i know i wouldn't cuz i don't wanna go to hell. please pray for me.
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Postby c.t.,girl » Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:57 pm

i'm feeling much better now but i don't want this to happen anymore especially when i'm trying so hard to help ppl.
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Postby EireWolf » Fri Nov 12, 2004 4:28 pm

Do you think your recent moods are somehow connected with your desire to help homeless people? Could it be that Satan is attacking you because you're beginning to realize a God-given desire? Satan often attacks us when he's afraid we'll be a formidable enemy to him.

In any case, I'm praying for you about this.
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Postby c.t.,girl » Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:05 pm

wow! i never thought of it like that! i guess that could be it but i'm not sure, plus there are things going on with family and friends so that may also be it. i am getting better though! ^_^ i'm feeling a whole lot better!! ^_^d i'm very greatfull for your prayers!! i truly am! i've never had so many ppl pray for me, at least to my knowledge! ^_^ thanks again!!
[color="DarkOrange"]"The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things... hey... the good things don't always soften the bad things; but vice-versa the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things and make them unimportant." -11th Doctor

"The advice I like to give young artists, or really anybody who’ll listen to me, is not to wait around for inspiration. Inspiration is for amateurs; the rest of us just show up and get to work. If you wait around for the clouds to part and a bolt of lightning to strike you in the brain, you are not going to make an awful lot of work. All the best ideas come out of the process; they come out of the work itself. Things occur to you. If you’re sitting around trying to dream up a great art idea, you can sit there a long time before anything happens. But if you just get to work, something will occur to you and something else will occur to you and something else that you reject will push you in another direction. Inspiration is absolutely unnecessary and somehow deceptive. You feel like you need this great idea before you can get down to work, and I find that’s almost never the case." - Chuck Close[/color]
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Postby EireWolf » Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:34 pm

Anytime! :hug:
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