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Postby Lengai » Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:01 pm

I'm currently engaged in a religious debate on a forum. Please, pray for me, that God may give me the words to speak. Also, pray for the people I'm arguing with.

Advice would help too, if you have it. Problem: They don't believe the Bible is God's Word and argue about all the other texts out there. ~_~
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Postby Spiritsword » Fri Aug 06, 2004 8:06 am

I will pray.

As for the Bible being God's Word, the evidence is that it says it is--an argument that may not stand with those you're arguing with--it really comes down to faith and the surety that God provides after or during coming to Him. Of course, from what I've seen and heard (and there are others much more knowledgable about this than me), the Bible is very historically accurate and supported, and internally consistent--I believe much more than any of the other ancient texts you might be talking about. Still doesn't "prove" it's God's Word, but it does give it reliability. The proof comes through the way God convicts hearts to faith through His Word.
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Postby Syreth » Fri Aug 06, 2004 11:16 am

Talking with people about the LORD is an awesome thing. I'll pray for you, that He might give you the words to say. Something I've had trouble with before, I dunno if you do, is trying to argue people into heaven. Be a light to them, as I'm sure you must be already!
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Postby uc pseudonym » Fri Aug 06, 2004 11:49 am

I really don't want this to become a theological debate, even if it is only one sided on these forums, so if we could all avoid anything too serious...

Lengai wrote:I'm currently engaged in a religious debate on a forum. Please, pray for me, that God may give me the words to speak. Also, pray for the people I'm arguing with.

Advice would help too, if you have it. Problem: They don't believe the Bible is God's Word and argue about all the other texts out there. ~_~


Are these people Christian? Their own religious views entirely changes what can be considered a given and hence how you should argue.

If they are non-Christian, I would strongly suggest reading The Case for Christ (Lee Strobal) which covers the factual evidence quite effectively. Also, research the council in which it was decided exactly what books should or should not be canon. The people creating it had some good methods.

If they are Christian, you have a great deal more you can argue from. Foremost, you could point out that their position assumes that God would have nothing to do with making sure His book got created correctly. Unless they want to deny that He has influence in our world, they'll dig themselves into a hole.
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Postby Rogie » Fri Aug 06, 2004 3:40 pm

I'll pray for all of you, and that the Truth will me made clear. Just try to avoid pure argument, as that leads nowhere.
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Postby Lengai » Fri Aug 06, 2004 5:55 pm

uc pseudonym wrote:I really don't want this to become a theological debate, even if it is only one sided on these forums, so if we could all avoid anything too serious...



Are these people Christian? Their own religious views entirely changes what can be considered a given and hence how you should argue.

If they are non-Christian, I would strongly suggest reading The Case for Christ (Lee Strobal) which covers the factual evidence quite effectively. Also, research the council in which it was decided exactly what books should or should not be canon. The people creating it had some good methods.

If they are Christian, you have a great deal more you can argue from. Foremost, you could point out that their position assumes that God would have nothing to do with making sure His book got created correctly. Unless they want to deny that He has influence in our world, they'll dig themselves into a hole.



It's at deviantART, so most of them are non-Christian and strong about persecution. The Christians that are there usually don't go to the forums or don't speak up. >> Thanks for the suggestion.
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