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Games Market Might Crash??? (usna)

Postby Fsiphskilm » Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:39 pm

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Postby ShiroiHikari » Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:51 pm

eh, hopefully when we reach the point where graphics are so good they can't really be improved upon, people will stop making mediocre games. although I doubt it; like you said, look at the movie industry.
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Postby Yojimbo » Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:58 pm

Well I'm sure we'll have virtual reality by then.:lol:
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:00 pm

the idea of virtual reality frightens me...
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Postby Yojimbo » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:10 pm

Yeah actually it does with me too in a way. Imagine playing out a survival horror game in virtual reality...how frightening would that be? Also people could lose they're sense of reality and do nothing but live out their fantasies all day long.
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Postby MasterDias » Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:43 am

How virtual a reality are we talking about?

In some aspects it might be cool, but when progressing through a sewer dungeon, I do not want to be smelling it.
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Postby Azier the Swordsman » Sat Jul 31, 2004 8:52 pm

Most likely what will happen when there is absolutely no room for improvement in gaming, (better graphics, ect.) companies will start getting gimmicky with new consoles. Like the DS.
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Postby HeavensTek » Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:46 pm

stocks are down a bit all around, but the gaming industry is turning into something like the movie industry and its growing huge........i don't see any crash anytime soon.

i think that there's going to be some big changes in how games are made and played, but as long as there are geeks with money to spend (like me), there will be progression with video games.
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Postby shooraijin » Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:56 am

Some of us remember the video game crash of 1984. That pretty much ruined console gaming for years until the advent of the NES, since cheap computers like the Atari 8-bits and the Commodore 64 could run rings around most of the consoles at that time and were "real" computers to boot. The NES arguably had only a moderate advantage in the graphics department, but it did have the advantage of a nice pricepoint and an established Famicom library, so it survived and (gradually) thrived.

Nowadays with consoles having graphics architectures so far ahead of most desktop systems, it seems less likely to happen unless there were a serious stagnation in GPU development allowing PCs and Macs to catch up. Even so, the mindset that insists "consoles for games, computers for work" is very entrenched.
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Postby cbwing0 » Sun Aug 01, 2004 10:55 am

I think the chances of a game market crash were much better 3-4 years ago than they are now. At that time, there was nothing but lame sequels (Twisted Metal, Tomb Raider, Tekken, Crash Bandicoot), with very few new and innovative titles on the market. Now, with the next generation of consoles just around the corner along with two new handhelds, the game market is doing just fine.

I also don't see any issues with a lack of creativity. Several game developers have begun to hire actual authors and writers to create the stories for their games (not just putting Tom Clancy's name on something, either :P ), and this trend should increase in the future. On top of that, you have movie makers working more closely with video game developers to produce better movie tie-in games that go beyond merely making the movie interactive, such as the recent Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay prequel game. People that grew up with the Playstation and N64 are also beginning to enter the game industry, which adds even more potential to future titles. With all of that coming together with increasing investment in games (that are now more widely seen as profitable endeavors), I don't think the game market is going to be in trouble any time soon.
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Postby Fsiphskilm » Sun Aug 01, 2004 3:53 pm

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Postby cbwing0 » Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:58 pm

Volt wrote:Exactly! The same Lame Brain-less Authors and Screen writers that helped bring cliche boring movies into the box office are the same ones that are going to be making the future Boring Games, of the future.

There is a difference between an author/director giving their license to game developers to make a game based on their existing works, and hiring talented authors to create original stories for new games. The former are usually horried, while the latter have a great deal of potential. Having authors create new stories for games allows developers to keep continuity within a story without being dependent on movie sequels and new novels.

I do agree with you that most Japanese RPGs are horrid. I stopped playing Final Fantasy titles at VII, and now I mostly play American RPGs and/or fighting/action games.
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Postby Fsiphskilm » Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:09 am

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Postby uc pseudonym » Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:27 am

Regarding the actual topic: I'm not too worried, for many of the reasons that have been stated. With next generation consules so close, I'm sure each system will open with a quality game. In most cases (with some exceptions) they have new games that are somewhat original.

Regarding the topic most recently at hand: I, being an author myself, think that it would be quite possible for authors to create actual good storylines. Note that good does not necessarily mean containing a massive plot twist.
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