PG-13 .. should 13 year olds really be watching some of this stuff?

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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:47 am

Yeah, that lady was... Man, I was thinking to myself, "Ok, this chick has to be a bad guy. There's no way TWO popular girls would fall for this doofus. Lightning doesn't strike the same dork twice."
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:35 am

Ok, I watched The Curious Case of Benjamin Button the other night. Was just Mom and me, so we figured we'd deal with what ever "sexual content" it had. It's only PG13. Sexual Content is a big umbrella, you know?

"Characters visit brothel" would have been a nice warning to have 6_9

I don't want a pharmaceutical length disclaimer, but sheesh.
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Postby pikmintaro » Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:37 pm

I agree with what a lot of people have said about Transformers 2 these sexual jokes are just embarrassing and seem to be designed simply to insult the intelligence of everyone viewing it.

What I would have done is have the only human characters focused on be the guys in the Army and not the annoying College kids and the annoying main character (Forgot his name) but it's kind of disheartening when the movie is called "Transformers" and yet the Transformers are only focused on for about a third of the movie. I had heard what was in the movie before I went in to see it and I was still surprised at how much stuff there really was :shake:

Also as another person said I saw Jurassic Park and Alien at a very young age and wasn't that scared by them but Snow White was REALLY frightening to me and my Parents wouldn't even let me see the Hunchback of Notre Dame when I was younger I still haven't seen it but my Mother said it was because of some pervert priest guy in it or something like that.

But yeah I have gotten really sick of American TV and Movies so I hardly watch them anymore which is one of the reasons why pretty much the only thing I watch now is Anime :dance:
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Postby Nate » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:18 pm

my Parents wouldn't even let me see the Hunchback of Notre Dame when I was younger I still haven't seen it but my Mother said it was because of some pervert priest guy in it or something like that.

I haven't seen that movie either (though I should, I hear it's really good), but yeah, the priest in it is a pretty evil dude, and if I remember the Nostalgia Critic correctly, he basically tries to force her into marriage with him or he'll cause her to burn in Hell for eternity. That's pretty rough.
pikmintaro wrote:But yeah I have gotten really sick of American TV and Movies so I hardly watch them anymore which is one of the reasons why pretty much the only thing I watch now is Anime :dance:

Because anime has so much less sexual content than American entertainment amirite?
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Postby The Banner » Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:30 am

I haven't seen many movies where PG-13 movies haven't gone over its rating.

If it wasn't bad now, though, I expect it could get much worse later on in the years. We watch pornography like it's nothing already. The Transformers movie mentioned masturbation quite openly which made me a bit curious as to what it could become.

I'm not to sound like the stereotypical Conservative Christian 50-year-old, but even if movies aren't that bad at the moment, I fear that it may hold potential. Haven't got much of an opinion otherwise, and just recommend parents to use their own thoughts to rate the movie alongside what the rating says.
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:50 am

Nate (post: 1344252) wrote:I haven't seen that movie either (though I should, I hear it's really good), but yeah, the priest in it is a pretty evil dude, and if I remember the Nostalgia Critic correctly, he basically tries to force her into marriage with him or he'll cause her to burn in Hell for eternity. That's pretty rough.

Because anime has so much less sexual content than American entertainment amirite?


Gantz? Pfft, that's like kids' stuff compared to The Simpsons.
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Postby Zyborg22 » Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:51 pm

Yamamaya (post: 1343133) wrote:However, I disagree that the topic of masturbation is an R only topic since 13 is the general beginning of puberty and teens tend to start doing stuff of that nature.

I could name some other things that teens do that wouldn't (or at least shouldn't) appear in a PG-13 movie. Then again, the teens in question might not be normal.

Nate (post: 1344252) wrote:Because anime has so much less sexual content than American entertainment amirite?

But...anime has cartoon people, and American entertainment has real people and cartoon people. It's totally different :P .
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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:00 pm

Zyborg22 (post: 1344424) wrote:But...anime has cartoon people, and American entertainment has real people and cartoon people. It's totally different :P .


But Anime isn't the only stuff they watch in Japan. They've got a large share of live action shows, as well.
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Postby Nate » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:35 am

Even anime is still pretty bad. I mean, take for example Queen's Blade
[SPOILER]where one of the characters walks around basically topless the entire series, and attacks by shooting acid out of her breasts[/SPOILER]
and this was shown on REGULAR TELEVISION.

The only live-action shows I watch are toku and there usually isn't anything too bad in those kinds of shows, though I could have done without seeing a camera-full of naked Zanki butt in Hibiki (another thing that would never be shown on American TV). I'm not big on dramas or anything else outside of toku as far as live-action goes, so I can't say if the nudity or sexual content in those exceeds what could be shown on American TV.
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Postby The Banner » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:44 am

Nate wrote:[SPOILER]where one of the characters walks around basically topless the entire series, and attacks by shooting acid out of her breasts[/SPOILER]


The spoiler tag speaks a fearsome story.

Good thing I don't live in Japan! Wonder what kind of influence chain reaction it could set off.
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Postby minakichan » Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:15 am

Nate, you're watching Queen's Blade? =P
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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:24 am

Not sure that I would dare venture Queen's Blade. lol
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Postby RobinSena » Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:32 am

Nate (post: 1344507) wrote:Even anime is still pretty bad. I mean, take for example Queen's Blade
[SPOILER]where one of the characters walks around basically topless the entire series, and attacks by shooting acid out of her breasts[/SPOILER]
and this was shown on REGULAR TELEVISION.


Heh, I popped on an episode of that show. I laughed. A lot. =P
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Postby Zyborg22 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:06 am

Etoh*the*Greato (post: 1344438) wrote:But Anime isn't the only stuff they watch in Japan. They've got a large share of live action shows, as well.

While that's true, Nate and pikmintaro mentioned anime specifically.

If those crazy Japanese game shows count as live action, I've seen a few of them. They're actually pretty fun to watch (or at least the ones I've seen are).
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Postby Ally-Ann » Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:27 am

It all depends on what you think is appropriate for 13-year-olds. Violence is all right, in my opinion, as long as it's not excessive and as long as it's realistic (I.e., not spilling a bunch of blood for hardly any reason at all.). Sexual innuendo? If there's any at all, it better be only slight. To me, that's all right for a 13-year-old, but any further than that and it should be an issue. It is for me, anyway. I hate movies with excessive violence and excessive sexual innuendo, and it seems like most PG-13 movies nowadays are like that. Stuff like that can't be good for any of our young teenage minds.
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Postby Ally-Ann » Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:49 am

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Postby SierraLea » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:08 pm

There's actually a DVD player that lets you take all that inappropriate stuff out without ruining the movie. It's called clear play, and you download filters off their site, plug them into the player, and you can control what gets filtered and what doesn't, like violence and mushiness. We use it all the time because we're big fans of great movies that would be amazing if not for that one swear word.
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Postby Nate » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:10 pm

Cool I'm gonna go watch Schindler's List and American History X with Clear Play, that way I can completely remove the messages of those movies.
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Postby Xeno » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:19 pm

SierraLea (post: 1569010) wrote:There's actually a DVD player that lets you take all that inappropriate stuff out without ruining the movie. It's called clear play, and you download filters off their site, plug them into the player, and you can control what gets filtered and what doesn't, like violence and mushiness. We use it all the time because we're big fans of great movies that would be amazing if not for that one swear word.


Yeah. I often watch a movie and think that it could have been a masterpiece, but they said one swear word, so I instead relegate it to the junk pile to never be watched again. After all, why would I want to watch a movie where the dialog reflects how people talk in real life?
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Postby Neane » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:26 pm

SierraLea (post: 1569010) wrote:There's actually a DVD player that lets you take all that inappropriate stuff out without ruining the movie. It's called clear play, and you download filters off their site, plug them into the player, and you can control what gets filtered and what doesn't, like violence and mushiness. We use it all the time because we're big fans of great movies that would be amazing if not for that one swear word.


You're right, Gone with the Wind would have been amazing if not for the fact that there was that one instance of the D word.
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Postby Jingo Jaden » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:33 pm

Nate (post: 1569011) wrote:Cool I'm gonna go watch Schindler's List and American History X with Clear Play, that way I can completely remove the messages of those movies.


Funny you should mention Schindlers list. That's one of the above 13 rated films I'd actually want to see dropped down to 13 as far as age is concerned.
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Postby Nate » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:05 pm

Neane wrote:You're right, Gone with the Wind would have been amazing if not for the fact that there was that one instance of the D word.

Well, and all the blatant racism and misogyny but I have a feeling Clear Play has no problem with racism or misogyny as long as they don't say "bad words."

But Clear Play would probably be a great invention for people who are pressed for time! Like watching all three of the Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings movies? There just isn't any time for that! But with Clear Play, the entire trilogy would only be about an hour long!
That's one of the above 13 rated films I'd actually want to see dropped down to 13 as far as age is concerned.

Really I don't think you could get away with rating a movie with so much full frontal nudity as less than R due to standards. I realize the nudity is there for a reason but the ratings guidelines don't really allow for exceptions like that. Maybe they should, I dunno.
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Postby Jingo Jaden » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:48 pm

Nate (post: 1569077) wrote:Well, and all the blatant racism and misogyny but I have a feeling Clear Play has no problem with racism or misogyny as long as they don't say "bad words."

But Clear Play would probably be a great invention for people who are pressed for time! Like watching all three of the Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings movies? There just isn't any time for that! But with Clear Play, the entire trilogy would only be about an hour long!

Really I don't think you could get away with rating a movie with so much full frontal nudity as less than R due to standards. I realize the nudity is there for a reason but the ratings guidelines don't really allow for exceptions like that. Maybe they should, I dunno.


True, in 99% of the cases I would agree with you, but the nudity in Schindler list which portrays quite literally a horrible, naked truth that our generation must learn, and general artistic nudity I make exceptions for.
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Postby K. Ayato » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:51 pm

Do programs like Clear Play flat out remove "offensive" scenes or do they just bleep out the profanity?
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Postby ADXC » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:43 pm

shooraijin (post: 1569102) wrote:Wow, how did this one get dusted off?


At this point, it takes skill. XD
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:45 pm

You guys, some people don't enjoy raunchy sex scenes in a movie. Don't put down Clear Play entirely. Even I fast forward through that kind of stuff. Or maybe I'm not seeing the deeper meaning and movie makers aren't using sex to get people to watch movies :P
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Postby Dante » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:21 pm

I dislike sex, but I will never understand why our species has a greater aversion to seeing our own procreation over images like the one in the avatar above me, brutally and very graphically dripping with blood. It honestly took grave-digging this thread for me to really notice, but now that I see it, I am forced to ask. I'm a bit old fashioned, but is that avatar really rated PG-13 Dude? That's a tad bit graphic, even if I understand what it's supposed to represent. The passion of the Christ was rated R for a reason.
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Postby Nate » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:02 pm

Jingo Jaden wrote:True, in 99% of the cases I would agree with you, but the nudity in Schindler list which portrays quite literally a horrible, naked truth that our generation must learn, and general artistic nudity I make exceptions for.

I agree, but like I said, I think that standards are standards and that's probably why it can't be rated lower. But, for what it's worth, when the movie came out our teachers highly suggested that everybody watch it, despite the fact that we were in middle school when it came out. So even though it was rated quite high, we were encouraged to see it because of the subject matter.
some people don't enjoy raunchy sex scenes in a movie.

Yeah, but pretty much 99% of movies that have raunchy sex scenes are movies that people shouldn't watch in the first place if they don't like that kind of content, so it's useless. All it can do is cut out content that has a purpose for being there (hence my mention of Schindler's List and American History X) or is largely pointless because people wouldn't be watching those kinds of movies in the first place.

I wonder if there's a Clear Read for books. I've been wanting to read the Bible for a while, but I just don't want to read about all that gruesome violence or disgusting sex or all that filthy language.
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