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Postby Htom Sirveaux » Tue May 25, 2004 4:33 pm

I wouldn't say yes or no definitely, but I'm open to the possibility. I find it hard to believe that in all the nigh-infinite galaxies and planets in the universe, Earth is the only one to be inhabited by intelligent, civilized forms of life. Plus, I believe that we serve a very creative God. If you don't believe me, just look at a giraffe or a sawfish.
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Postby JediSonic » Tue May 25, 2004 6:09 pm

I dont see any really good reason why they dont exist... I think it'd be pretty cool if they did :) I've always loved starwars after all. I dont see any reason why the should exist on the other hand.

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Postby Angel37 » Tue May 25, 2004 6:14 pm

I say, absolutely. C.S. Lewis wrote a series on aliens. I think one of the books is called Strange Planet but don't hold me to that! Check it out! In any case, we'll know in heaven!
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Postby Savior_Sora » Tue May 25, 2004 7:41 pm

Well for one I don't think there are. I just dont think there are any really lol. If there was would God allow, our two races, species whichever the case may be, us to meet? I know the bible says we are his most precious creations, but if he did create aliens that are somewhat on our level of intelligence...why would he keep them secret?

I wouldn't mind meeting the aliens lol. Maybe if there are any they'll come during the end times???????????

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Postby skynes » Wed May 26, 2004 6:47 am

Only thing about that reasoning is that there is no clear mention either of dinosaurs


Behemoth and Leviathan, metnioned in Job. they fit dinosaur descriptions perfectly.
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Postby Bobtheduck » Wed May 26, 2004 7:12 am

skynes wrote:Behemoth and Leviathan, metnioned in Job. they fit dinosaur descriptions perfectly.


Yup... That's why I don't think dinosaurs died out before people came along... I have heard people say that Leviathan was a crocodile... That's just rediculous... Or that Leviathan was an elephant or a hippo or a giraffe... Hippo fits for how dangerous it is, but they don't have tails that "sway like cedars"
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Postby The_Marauding_Maniac » Wed May 26, 2004 7:39 am

Intelligent life? probably not. Other non-intelligent animals? very probable. Other Universes? Probable.
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Postby Technomancer » Wed May 26, 2004 8:13 am

Bobtheduck wrote:Yup... That's why I don't think dinosaurs died out before people came along... I have heard people say that Leviathan was a crocodile... That's just rediculous... Or that Leviathan was an elephant or a hippo or a giraffe... Hippo fits for how dangerous it is, but they don't have tails that "sway like cedars"


Although many language scholars believe that the "tail" reference likely refers to a rather different sort of appendage. Of course, the decriptions themselves are hardly precise, and may in any case refer to mythical or semi-mythical animals. The reality is that no traces of dinosaurs have been found in strata contemporaneous to humans or large mammals.
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Postby shooraijin » Wed May 26, 2004 8:32 am

> Although many language scholars believe that the "tail" reference likely refers to a rather different sort of appendage.

How do you mean? I grabbed a Strong's concordance and it comes up with #2180 for Job 40:17, transliterated "zanab" meaning tail, end or stump. The same Hebrew word appears in Exodus 4:4 where Moses grabs the snake by the tail (turning into a staff), and in the word for "tail" or ending in Isa 7:4, 9:14-15, and 19:15. For completeness, it also occurs in Deu 28:13 and 44, and Judges 15:4.

You can look this up on http://www.blueletterbible.org, too, if you don't have the book handy.
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Postby Technomancer » Wed May 26, 2004 8:45 am

The problem isn't that the word is mistranslated in it's literal meaning, but rather than it's being used as euphemism in that particular context.

" He setteth up his tail like a cedar, the sinews of his testicles are wrapped together." Job 40:17(DRV)

In this case, the context of the sentence is made more explicit, as is the particular section of anatomy in question.
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Postby Bobtheduck » Wed May 26, 2004 1:45 pm

Removed... I'm not gonna start this again
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Postby IZ&Trigun4life » Wed May 26, 2004 5:04 pm

I dunno but what i mean by other beings doesnt have to mean little green men like were all familar with, God could have created other galaxies with other planets that MAY just support other human life..I dunno its just simply a thought
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Postby Angel37 » Wed May 26, 2004 5:05 pm

Ah, I just found out. That book by C.S. Lewis is called Out of the Silent Planet and it's the first in a series of three. Check it out!
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Postby IZ&Trigun4life » Wed May 26, 2004 5:11 pm

I will..hehe
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Postby EireWolf » Wed May 26, 2004 9:04 pm

Yes, that is a very good series. Another trilogy by a Christian author that deals with extraterrestrial life is A Wrinkle in Time, A Swiftly Tilting Planet, and A Wind in the Door by Madeleine L'Engle. The extraterrestrial life is not the point of the books, but it plays a part.
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Postby kaibrightwing » Thu May 27, 2004 7:09 pm

Well i believe god created earth and the universe was created by someone else, but just what i think. Every world out there have its own gods and if there is other life out there than they have their own gods to believe in. or its the same god protending to be their god/s. You never know?
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Postby Htom Sirveaux » Thu May 27, 2004 7:44 pm

Angel37 wrote:Ah, I just found out. That book by C.S. Lewis is called Out of the Silent Planet and it's the first in a series of three. Check it out!
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Ah yes, the Space Trilogy. Really good stuff. I think Perelandra is my favorite of the three.
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Postby Whitephoenix » Fri May 28, 2004 3:31 pm

I'm also a bit of a wonderer when it comes to extraterrestrial life. I think it's a possibility that they COULD be out there.

Still, I've read Nephilim, by L.A Marzuli, which involved the scenario of "aliens" actually being demons in disguise and came to deceive the whole
world. Though it was a pretty good idea, I didn't really care much for the actual writing.
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Postby Htom Sirveaux » Fri May 28, 2004 3:48 pm

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Intergalactic planetary, planetary intergalactic, intergalactic planetary, planetary intergalactic, another dimension, another dimension, another dimension, another dimension...

Footnote: if you don't like the idea of extraterrestrials, don't read The Tommyknockers.
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Postby Fsiphskilm » Sun May 30, 2004 9:35 pm

I'm with
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Postby Mithrandir » Sun May 30, 2004 10:08 pm

Hmm... Don't know how I missed this until now. I'm going to have to say that I agree with Eirewolf on this one. To say that God would NEVER hide anything from us is more than a little bit naive; it's more that a little bit arrogent. It's not even logical. EXPLAIN EVERYTHING THERE IS ABOUT GOD. RIGHT NOW! DO IT!!!! You can't can you? Please don't claim to know EVERYTHING about GOD if you can't back that up. Along those lines, can you say that God has told you EVERYTHING he is capable of doing? Really!?! Wow!!!! That's AMAZING!!!

Please note, my use of emphasis is only to make people think. Let me put it this way:
1. Do you think it's possible there are aliens in the universe?
2. Can God do anything?

You guys are missing a very obvious, yet subtle point. Can God create a rock he can't move? You may say either yes, or no. If you say either, then you are saying that, "God cannot do EVERYTHING." This is the difference I want to point out. God can do ANYTHING. But to humans who view reality as a series of events, he does not do everything.


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Postby Ingemar » Sun May 30, 2004 10:12 pm

Then... do you think there are God-fearing aliens?
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Postby EireWolf » Sun May 30, 2004 10:15 pm

Does it matter?

There may be. There may not be. Does it matter?
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Postby Mithrandir » Sun May 30, 2004 10:21 pm

It appears we are getting off the main point... The question was, do you THINK God created other beings. Some people have implied that it's NOT possible for this to be the case... I for one don't care, but when someone impiles that it's not POSSIBLE...

I simply wanted to clear that one up. I PERSONALLY (and this is in no way afiliated with CAA, my church, my wife, etc) think that there are probably other creatures out there. If this is not the case, then doesn't affect my relationship with Christ in the slightest. I just think it's arrogent to assume that God would tell us everything. I don't recall any point in the bible where it's implied that God will never do anything that doesn't directly involve us. I mean let's face it, if we're all there is to God's universe, it's gonna be rather boring for him, don' t you think?

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Postby The_Marauding_Maniac » Mon May 31, 2004 4:56 am

The Alien confict seems to be very contorversial. I just don't think there is other intelligent life. (Unless somehow HUMANS were on other planets) I do think there is trees, plants, bacteria and animals out there, though. There also may be another dimension out there with intelligent life
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Postby Inferno » Mon May 31, 2004 8:51 am

I dunno, they could. You never know.
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Postby starstoryteller » Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:22 am

The Old gez...er Oldphilosopher is trying to get us to think about this very hard about this subject so that we can grow from this and that God can do anything(I still stick with the idea that alins are ether angels or demons) XD
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