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Postby Makachop^^128 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:54 am

My friends are telling me not to care anymore, but I'm still concerned for him. ;_;


If you loved him you shouldn't NOT care for him :/ I know how you feel my friends are saying "you should hate your ex" but I don't, I still love him like a boyfriend but I'm trying to change that love into a more friend love. Its not bad to still care for him.
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Postby TopazRaven » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:41 am

Ouch. I'll be praying for you Exlon. I really can't imagine how hard this must be for you. Atria and Maka can give you better advice then I could ever hope to so I'll just leave it to them. I hope you feel better soon.
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Postby Exlon » Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:28 pm

TopazRaven (post: 1505116) wrote:Ouch. I'll be praying for you Exlon. I really can't imagine how hard this must be for you. Atria and Maka can give you better advice then I could ever hope to so I'll just leave it to them. I hope you feel better soon.


Thanks. It's just hard because I miss him and everything, and remember how he used to care (even if he doesn't anymore). So it just kind of makes me feel all sore and bruised inside...
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Postby TopazRaven » Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:28 pm

Aw, that really does stink. :( Unfortunatly there isn't a button to turn negative feelings off or I would have discovered it by now. Hang in there, things will get better some day. Hopefully sooner then later.
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Postby K. Ayato » Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:38 pm

What matters now is you surround yourself with people who care about you and will support you as you're going through this. I wanted to isolate myself when I once felt the same pain you do, but I knew it would only make things worse if I didn't move forward and let people be there even in the times where I was hurting. The other thing to remember is to allow those feelings to come out. A lot of times, I was second-guessing myself and one of my friends told me to stop 'cause it was only feeding unnecessary guilt. Maybe something could have been avoided, maybe difference choices could have been made, but unfortunately, you can't change what's already taken place.

I don't mean to make anything sound worse, hon. This is a tough thing to deal with, and it's gonna come with times where you feel yourself again, and times where you're at your lowest. What matters most is trusting that God will take care of you and bring you through those moments :).
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Postby Exlon » Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:25 pm

Yeah, so...he hasn't spoken to me since the night of the breakup, and he just unfriended me on facebook about an hour ago.

Boy, do I feel wanted. ;_;
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Postby Atria35 » Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:37 pm

Yeah.... I know how that is >.>"

But you have friends to help you get through it, and barring that... CHOCOLATE! It works wonders, I swear. Most of all, time. You'll find someone that wants to be with you, I'm sure of it.
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Postby Exlon » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:34 pm

Atria35 (post: 1506998) wrote:Yeah.... I know how that is >.>"

But you have friends to help you get through it, and barring that... CHOCOLATE! It works wonders, I swear. Most of all, time. You'll find someone that wants to be with you, I'm sure of it.


I know, it just hurts to know he's making the effort to cut off all contact with me while I still sleep with the teddy bear I named after him. ;_;
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Postby K. Ayato » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:47 pm

You can still keep the happy memories. No one can take that away from you.
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Postby Makachop^^128 » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:48 pm

[quote="Exlon (post: 1507067)"]I know, it just hurts to know he's making the effort to cut off all contact with me while I still sleep with the teddy bear I named after him. ]

I'm sorry >.< still praying for you. Things will get better in time, just need to focus on God and hang out with friends :) it helps.
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Postby steenajack » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:51 pm

*hugs Exion* I'm really sorry you're going through this. I went through a very similar situation before. I fell for a guy who was my best friend and he loved someone else...it was..like a shojo soap opera on steroids. Not a good combo. It was really hard on me, cause I didn't know how to get over him. I begged to God, "Why!?!? Why, would you allow humans to epierience such a horrible pain?! Do you even know what it's like to feel this way?!?" And that's when He told me, yes He has. Every time someone rejects His love, or believes He's not real, it hurts Him. And the thing is, God never stops loving those people. As long as they're alive, they still have a chance to run into His arms. He will wait, and never force the person, and will continue to love them and show His love for them....even if they never see or acknowledge His persuits. He loves us that much. We are that worth it to Him. In the end girl, you're not alone. Not only have some of us gone through heartbreak like you have, but God knows exactly what you feel and how much you care. And He cares girl. Don't think for one second God doesn't care or understand what you feel, cause He does. He loves you very much.
I'll be praying for you Exion. It'll take time for your heart to heal, but it will. :) *hugs again*
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Postby steenajack » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:56 pm

*hugs Exion* I'm really sorry you're going through this. I went through a very similar situation before. I fell for a guy who was my best friend and he loved someone else...it was..like a shojo soap opera on steroids. Not a good combo. It was really hard on me, cause I didn't know how to get over him. I begged to God, "Why!?!? Why, would you allow humans to epierience such a horrible pain?! Do you even know what it's like to feel this way?!?" And that's when He told me, yes He has. Every time someone rejects His love, or believes He's not real, it hurts Him. And the thing is, God never stops loving those people. As long as they're alive, they still have a chance to run into His arms. He will wait, and never force the person, and will continue to love them and show His love for them....even if they never see or acknowledge His persuits. He loves us that much. We are that worth it to Him. In the end girl, you're not alone. Not only have some of us gone through heartbreak like you have, but God knows exactly what you feel and how much you care. And He cares girl. Don't think for one second God doesn't care or understand what you feel, cause He does. He loves you very much.
I'll be praying for you Exion. It'll take time for your heart to heal, but it will. :) *hugs again*
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Postby steenajack » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:57 pm

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Postby Exlon » Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:15 pm

I'm sorry, I feel so crappy I wish I could die, and I don't want to talk to God anymore or anything just because I don't think He's going to help. I don't bother opening my bible because even reading random verses doesn't help, and it feels like artificial comfort to me because it has no effect and no real encouragement. It just feels like "blah-de-blah, this is for the people who actually know how to believe and crud because things work out for them but it's always going to suck for you."
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Postby Atria35 » Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:13 pm

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I'm so sorry to hear you're having a hard time. I'm praying for you. Is there a counselor or a preacher that you could talk to? Someone older that can help encourage you or at least lift your spirits?
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Postby Exlon » Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:06 pm

Atria35 (post: 1514270) wrote::(

I'm so sorry to hear you're having a hard time. I'm praying for you. Is there a counselor or a preacher that you could talk to? Someone older that can help encourage you or at least lift your spirits?


I've talked to at least 5 teachers at school about it (I go to a Christian school), as well as the nurse, and the guidance counselor. I may feel a fraction of an inch better for a moment, but I feel crappy all over again anyway. And talking to my dad about it doesn't really make me feel better, and neither does talking to my friends about it. Every time I feel a little better in general (like, not feeling sad for about 5 minutes or something) I end up being dark and upset and depressed anyhow, or if I think I have a good day, I just crawl into bed that night and feel like crying all over again.
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Postby Popyman » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:08 am

Wow, it's pretty crazy how similar all of this is to what I've been going through for a while...and yet I can't seem to think of anything helpful to say. :( I guess the main thing that I'm doing is focusing on ME. What I (and you too, from the sounds of it) tend to do is put other people first. That's a great thing normally, but I can go overboard and everything becomes about them. That isn't healthy--at all. I believe that why I latch onto people I'm close to is because of my own lack of self-esteem. In my eyes, I was worthless so I HAD to have someone else around who thought good things about me. And that's the problem--and the contradiction--in my mind I thought I was focusing on the other person's needs but in reality I just wanted to hold onto the person to make me feel good. That's a one sided, parasitic relationship that isn't good for anyone.

Now, I'm just trying to build up my self-esteem so I won't feel like I need another person to feel okay. It's kind of hard (and lonely) but I know that I have to be more confident with myself before I can have a NORMAL relationship where it's not just a one sided attachment.

...I'm not really sure if that will help you any, but I felt like I needed to say something and after like 40 minutes and tons of backspacing, that was the best thing that I could type up. :/ Just know that you aren't alone in dealing with things like this and that you CAN get through it. ^^
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Postby Makachop^^128 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:14 am

Exlon, I'm really sorry things haven't gotten better >.< All I can say, what has helped me through all the break up stuff is focusing on God, I know you might be mad at God, I was, but the only way to forgive is through him. Also, try to take this time and just find out more about God and yourself. Go out, hang out with friends, take your bible and go to a coffee shop, it helps a lot. I hope you feel better, I understand that pain of not being able to get over someone that has hurt you a ton....I'm still praying :)
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Postby Choko » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:54 pm

You have my prayers, Exlon.
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Postby Exlon » Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:00 pm

I hate my life. I hate God. He doesn't care. He doesn't care that André's going to die in hell. He doesn't care. Otherwise He would actually do something about it. But he doesn't care enough to bother. He doesn't care if I cry. He doesn't care if André's going to die. He just acts like He does and faking my hope that He'll ever save André. Is that so much to ask? For someone to be okay? For someone to be saved? He just doesn't care. All that's happened is André's become even more Anti-Christian. He hates Christianity. He can't think anything good of it. I hate church. I don't want to go tomorrow. I hate going. I can't ever get any sleep at night. My dreams won't freaking leave me alone. They're just stupid things that make me tired when I wake up. School sucks. They demand, demand, demand everything and I can't even stay awake in class anymore. God doesn't care. He doesn't care that André will die. Who does? No one. I'm stuck here doing nothing and sucking at life, wishing I would die and fade into blackness. I wish I could die. I wish someone would shoot me. I don't even care anymore because obviously André's not going to live. Prayers are useless. They're just a form of fake hope when I can't make any difference anymore. I hate my life. Who cares if I'm going to live anymore if the person I care about the most is going to die? What's even the point? I wish someone would just kill me quickly. I freaking cannot take it anymore 'cause God doesn't care and He isn't going to do anything.
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Postby Jingo Jaden » Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:13 pm

Ok, now that you've gotten that out of your system. It would be a good take a deep breath, sit down, and think about all of this. Rants are never the highlights of a person, but they can reveal important bits. As this has obviously been boiling within you for a long time with no release valve.

Firstly, you speak of God as if you knew his final design. I do believe you can see how foolish that is yourself. That however, came as a result of you having expectations of your own for God, which rarely ever turns out as one expects. As the old Jews wished for the Messiah to essentially be new David to drive the Romans out by waging brilliant wars against them. Which obviously was not the case. However, having expectations for God, or even demands, often leads to a person creating God within their own image, which can only invite disaster. Perhaps recent events are driving you and Andre apart because of this? As far as Andre's life goes. Regardless of how he views Christianity at present. I got the feeling his story has not been told just yet.

I would, however, not speak of the nature of hell lightly, as it is a terror beyond human comprehension, which has had even among the strongest of apostles cry at the very understanding of its existence.

Going deeper into the point I made before that. It is clear that you care much more for Andre than you care for God right now, and that you have a deep affection of him. And that things recently could only have taken a turn for the worse. However, if you have anything, but God at the center of your life, and disaster strikes, you will essentially be left with nothing to hang onto. You will also have no rope for when other things strike. I will not pretend to know you, or the pain, which I wholeheartedly think is crippling. With the added injury of having anything to look forward to. I have been legitimately heartbroken twice. It is a crappy feeling with no equal, and I found myself useless in both cases for well over a month. I know mentioning it, as if I had felt anything equal, feels like a grave insult. However, know that it is not and that I am terribly sorry for the trial you are undergoing.

As far as how much God cares. I am afraid I cannot specifically answer that question. I am not God, so I cannot say how much he has invested in this. What I can say, however, is that he created both you and Andre. Having more hopes for either of you than there are grains of sand at the beach. That alone shows a passion that goes beyond what is human. Jesus himself wept, and I am quite certain, that somewhere within those tears, was him seeing you and the suffering you currently go through. Now, you got to turn your question around and ask yourself if you care about the tears of God? When he wept for all our wrongs and evils. If you care for the blood of God? As he forgave the sins of the world on the cross. If you care for the pain God still feels, as he knows your pain. He is the perfect judge, so it's more than mere knowledge of your pain that God can tell.

Under trials like this, the least thing you should worry about is going to church. Rather, meditate to God honestly. Bring all that you are forward too him, all your imperfections, and all your sufferings and trials. A relationship with God is a living relationship, as must ones faith be. It helps little gathering within safe halls, with all the wealth and comfort in the world if ones faith is in a crisis. This world is quite unforgiving, and your trials will by en large be seen by others as problems you ultimately stand responsible for, even when that's not really fair. That's where it is good to have, and be on good terms with God. He does provide, despite not always giving us what we want.

And I will pray for you. That you can gather your rest whenever you can. That those small, yet pleasant things in life will occur frequently. I pray not for an easy deliverance, but that you will grow stronger alongside your trust to God, so that you never need to suffer like this again, and will help others that struggle with the same. I pray that your energy will be rejuvenated, so you can exercise your creativity and rediscover joy. Since you have contacts within the christian community, I would advice sharing your feelings and concerns to them, to whatever degree you feel appropriate.

There is not much more that I can say right now, as ultimately, this is between you and God. I would take it as a great compliment if you would pm me and share what you have on your mind and heart. As I only wish the best for you.

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Postby TopazRaven » Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:14 pm

I have never suffered heart break quite like you have, so I won't lie and say I know how you feel. I wanted to think of something I could say that would be helpful, but I find I'm as blank as an unwritten piece of paper at the moment. So I'll pray for you. I'll pray that your pain can be eased, I'll pray you will find joy in this life once again and I'll pray you can come to love and trust God again. I will not pretend to know God and say what His plan is, but neither your nor André's story is over yet. Things can change. The future is bright and can often be full of hope if you reach for it.
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Postby ABlipinTime » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:27 pm

Jesus loves you, Exlon.

As far as how much God cares. I am afraid I cannot specifically answer that question. I am not God

I'm not God either, but I know that He loves us beyond all measure.

Funny thing as humans, we are given free will. Sometimes we make the wrong choices. God isn't going to prevent us from making those choices, so if someone chooses to NOT be with God, then God, even being as loving as He is and even much as it breaks His heart to let that person leave, will not stop that person from what they are doing.

I realize this doesn't sound comforting. But what is comforting is that God put us in time, and with that blessing, we can change our minds and turn back to Him. And He is more than willing to forgive us. He WANTS us to come to Him, but He isn't going to stop us from screwing up our lives.


I'm going to keep praying for you!
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Postby Exlon » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:56 am

I would just like to ask right now that all of you would keep praying for André. I'm most concerned with that right now. Everything seems so unlikely for him, and it'd be a comfort to know he was getting support through prayer. Please pray that he may come to know God and sincerely accept Christ as his Lord and Savior. Please pray that this anti-God block may be removed from his heart and that he will see and know God is real and God is good.
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