New Zelda!!!

[PotBelliedCow]

If it lives up to its expectations, it probably will.

Anything Zelda sweeps NP...

[Roll]

Usually Zelda titles are among the early releases for each Nintendo platform, but this time the production staff has valuable GC experience from not only WW but many other games under its belt. Considering that and what we've seen of this game so far (that still has a year to go, mind you), there's a good chance it's gonna blow everything else out of the digital water! ::drools some more::

...Whoa, there seem to be some saliva puddles accumulating here...! Hee hee!

[Saint]

mmm... nice. this is something to look forward to for sure.

[uc pseudonym]

here's some pics from Gamespot

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Some of those I haven't seen before. Thanks. The gigantic Balrog-esque monter... do you (plural) think it is a final boss of some sort, or just a cool boss that they're putting in all the previews?

[MasterDias]

Well, I would imagine it would be either the last boss of a dungeon or one of those mini-bosses that you fight in the middle of the dungeon. But since I don't really remember a mini-boss that looked quite that spectacular, I'd think it would be the last boss of a dungeon.

Several years ago, in the WindWaker trailer, they showed that one er... crab or whatever it was boss that happened to be the last boss of the first dungeon.

So, this Balrog-esque monster could be the last boss of either the first or second dungeon.

Of course, that's all speculation and I could be totally wrong.

[PotBelliedCow]

Well, I would imagine it would be either the last boss of a dungeon or one of those mini-bosses that you fight in the middle of the dungeon. But since I don't really remember a mini-boss that looked quite that spectacular, I'd think it would be the last boss of a dungeon.

I'm hoping it's a miniboss...if so then the last boss would look even better. After seeing the screenshots, I've learned that the power of the GCN isn't that predictable.

Anyways, I've heard from a friend that Zelda and Metriod movies are being released...I know that Metriod is official, but I'm kind of skeptical about the Zelda rumor. Anyone know anything about it?

[uc pseudonym]

Not in the slightest, but I'd be highly skeptical. If it isn't as bad as the cartoon, I will be happy and probably go see it...

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Anyways, I've heard from a friend that Zelda and Metriod movies are being released...I know that Metriod is official, but I'm kind of skeptical about the Zelda rumor. Anyone know anything about it?

::cringes:: Animated or live-action? I'm scared to death what they might do with a Zelda movie, especially after seeing how Super Mario Bros. got chopped into dog food!! If they actually did it right, I'd LOVE to have a Zelda movie come out--but knowing Hollywood, I dread the thought.....

[inkhana]

::cringes:: Animated or live-action? I'm scared to death what they might do with a Zelda movie, especially after seeing how Super Mario Bros. got chopped into dog food!! If they actually did it right, I'd LOVE to have a Zelda movie come out--but knowing Hollywood, I dread the thought.....

I know what you mean...;__; I heard the Metroid movie was supposed to be live-action (nothing to back this up, though) and maybe the Zelda movie would be that way. Personally, I'd rather it was in anime or CGed form...and made in Japan. Like you said...I'd hate to see how Hollywood butchered it...

Seriously though, where are you going to find someone who looks like Link? (For all of you who just said Orlando Bloom, shame on you... ) LOL

[Roll]

Personally, I'd rather it was in anime or CGed form...and made in Japan.

Definitely, definitely! That'd be its best bet from the getgo. If they were to actually get it right, with accurate characters' looks and personalities and a plot actually based on that of the games....you know what a KILLING they would make?! The fans are the ones who made the series popular in the first place, after all--but Hollywood only seems interested in pleasing everyone BUT the fans...and then wonder why the movie flops...heh.

[Saint Kevin]

Wow. I just spent like 15 minutes typing a post only to receive an error message because I wasn't logged in. Grr.

Anyway...

The new zelda looks great, but as UC pointed out earlier, we can really expect the core of the game to remain unchanged. This raises a question, really two I guess:

How long can (or for that matter should) Nintendo rely on its core franchises (mario, zelda, metroid, donkey kong, etc.)?

What is there to take their place as the nintendo franchises of the future?

Also, semi-related question pertaining to the sequelitis running rampant in the VG industry: Does is bother anyone else that in their lifetime there will never be a truly final Final Fantasy game (as long as Square can help it)?

[MasterDias]

As long as Nintendo and Square keep injecting quality gameplay and such into their franchises, I really see nothing wrong with the way they are going currently. After all, everyone craves more of the same type of great gameplay that was in the previous games in each series.

And as long as it will sell, it will be made.

[uc pseudonym]

As for movies for either game... it would be cool if they were done well, but I severely doubt it. If both were CGI, I think they would have much better chances, but I doubt Hollywood would ever do such a thing. They have a thing for live action.

In regards to "Final" Fantasy: no, it doesn't bother me, but the very notion of the idea becomes steadily more amusing as more and more roman numerals are tacked onto the end. Generally, I agree with MasterDias... the games, while apart of the same respective franchises, have been uniformly good and often very original. That's what I ask for in a game, and it makes no real difference to me if it is in a series or not.

[Bobtheduck]

How long can (or for that matter should) Nintendo rely on its core franchises (mario, zelda, metroid, donkey kong, etc.)?

What is there to take their place as the nintendo franchises of the future?

You're forgetting about Pokémon... That wasn't one of their core franchises, and that's probably outsold N's primary franchises in most of its releases... They can come up with new franchises to milk, as long as they can find some really complex concept to simplify and make palatable to children...

As for the Movie, anyone who thinks that any further Video Game based movies will be anything like "Super Mario Brothers" is a bit out of the loop. They are making movies that are actually somewhat based on the games now, and not just that have clever refferences strewn throughout and the same names... But, I have to admit, I liked Super Mario Brothers. I was about the only one that did, but I did. I liked finding all they stuff they hid in it for the fans, and I liked the stupid humor. I just wish Yoshi had eaten someone entirely.

[Hitokiri]

I think as long as they produce top-notch games centered around thier franchise, we could see Zelda, mario, and th eothers for at least 20 years from now.

[MasterDias]

They are making movies that are actually somewhat based on the games now, and not just that have clever refferences strewn throughout and the same names...

What in particular are you referring to?

But, I have to admit, I liked Super Mario Brothers. I was about the only one that did, but I did. I liked finding all they stuff they hid in it for the fans, and I liked the stupid humor. I just wish Yoshi had eaten someone entirely.

Heh. I need to watch that sometime. Although almost everyone says that it was terrible, it has piqued my interest a bit.

I think as long as they produce top-notch games centered around thier franchise, we could see Zelda, mario, and th eothers for at least 20 years from now.

I agree.
The same will hold true to any of these major game companies actually. They all have their major franchises.

Speaking of the movie possibilities, I think a live-action Metroid movie would technically be better than a live-action Zelda movie, because sci-fi effects, in the worst-case-scenario, would come off less cheesier than fantasy effects...

[Hitokiri]

What in particular are you referring to?

Final Fantasy: Spirit Within comes to mind...is thier a Resident Evil movie?

Does anyone remember the good ol Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter movies. Those kciked butt..literally and seriously.

I need to watch those again sometimes.

A game turned movie that would be awesome and proably beat The Passion and all 3 lord of the rings and titanic in th ebox office would be......Pac Man. I would pay thousands to see it.

[uc pseudonym]

You may be the only one.

While I have participated in this discussion myself, gentlemen, I believe that a this point I must call this thread for being off-topic. Kindly discuss the new zelda game or cease posting here. This topic, actually, deserves a thread of its own...

[Roll]

I personally prefer that this title, or perhaps one or two more, be the last of the Zelda series. There's such a thing as too much of a good thing--such as Mega Man. I love the MM series, but this is a good example of how you can start to ruin something by overdoing it. It's bad enough to drag out a story with the same main character, but doing so in Zelda's case would require another and another and another different Link, and you can only have so many Links arise over the ages before it starts getting ridiculous! Hee hee! I think we're at that limit of practicality now, hence my preference to not push it much further.

[uc pseudonym]

At the limits of practicality, are we? In video games? Heh.

However, I do see your point. I believe at this point there have been three seperate Links through all the games. As long as they keep making the games relatively original, however, I can afford to give them some suspension of disbelief.

Compare Zelda to Mega Man, for example. The first six games... they were good, but also basically the same.

[MasterDias]

Once again, as long as it will sell, it will be made.

As for the practicality of current Zeldas and multiple Links, well, Zelda is more about the gameplay than the story-line, so I don't really care.

[PotBelliedCow]

Once again, as long as it will sell, it will be made.

As for the practicality of current Zeldas and multiple Links, well, Zelda is more about the gameplay than the story-line, so I don't really care.

I kinda disagree, MasterDias. I think it's more of an equal balance, story and gameplay. I prefer story, though *hides behind shield*

Anyways, back on topic...it's kind of ironic how this game's called "The Legend of Zelda" but we haven't seen any concept art/screenshots of Princess Zelda yet...if Link's looks that good I can't imagine what Zelda would look like...

[Lochaber Axe]

It is ironic to me that the whole series is called "The Legend of Zelda", yet there is no other mythology and heroes in the games except for Link. It would be good if they one day, just for the sake of literary license, expand the mythology a little, create another hero, you know. It is the writer in me talking of course, but Link is not the sole major player. Nintendo needs to pass the torch down to another character to further the series. Link shouldn't have to fight Ganon for all eternity.

[Bobtheduck]

You're arguing that based on a franchise that has to have familiarity... Mario will never pass on the torch. Samus won't give up her bounty hunter days to another... It's all about Icons... Link is an Icon. Until he stops being one, they won't change it...

[uc pseudonym]

It is ironic to me that the whole series is called "The Legend of Zelda", yet there is no other mythology and heroes in the games except for Link.

It is further ironic that several games in the series never even feature Zelda. Only in Ocarina of Time does she play any significant role, and in many others she is no more than a cameo. This is what prompted me to name my current fanfiction work "Legend of Link" so as to point out this irony...

[MasterDias]

I kinda disagree, MasterDias. I think it's more of an equal balance, story and gameplay. I prefer story, though *hides behind shield*

Anyways, back on topic...it's kind of ironic how this game's called "The Legend of Zelda" but we haven't seen any concept art/screenshots of Princess Zelda yet...if Link's looks that good I can't imagine what Zelda would look like...

Sure, it has more story compared to, oh say, most Mario games, but compared to a heavily story-based game like Final Fantasy in a heavily story-based genre(RPGs]You're arguing that based on a franchise that has to have familiarity... Mario will never pass on the torch. Samus won't give up her bounty hunter days to another... It's all about Icons... Link is an Icon. Until he stops being one, they won't change it...[/QUOTE]
I agree with this. Nintendo at least, isn't a company to drastically change their icons and they certainly won't as long as the gameplay will sell.
We will have spinoffs and such, as in the recent Mario RPGs, that might alter the gameplay in some way but the core games will generally stay the same as long as it sells.

[Alian]

They're talking about this at the Nintendo Forum too. ^_^

[Vyse]

They're talking about this at the Nintendo Forum too. ^_^

Yeah, except that this place doesn't have the bias of the Nintendo forum ^_^

[uc pseudonym]

Bias? What exactly would a Nintendo bias be? It isn't as if we are speaking about different systems...

Meanwhile, I wonder if this game will follow the classic formula or not. The classic formula is to have Link fight Ganondorf, but not every game in the series has followed it. By this point it has been some time since we have seen a game following the formula (though I am uncertain about Wind Waker... you actually do fight Ganon, don't you?).

[Vyse]

Bias? What exactly would a Nintendo bias be? It isn't as if we are speaking about different systems...

Well at the Nforums no matter what the topic is, it a lot of times goes into "Die PS2!1!!!" or Die PSP!111" Thankfully we don't get that around here ^_^