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Postby dothackzero » Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:14 pm

So I just finished watching Welcome to the N.H.K. The main girl in the series said that God is evil. For some reason it literally hurt like someone in real life said. I just don't get why it bugs me so much even though it was just an anime...
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Postby Atria35 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:19 pm

I don't think it's wierd at all. I mean, it would hurt whether you read it or heard it in anime or in real life. It's a strong negative statement that you don't agree with- and hits home because it's something you believe in. It's okay to feel upset about it.

Have you ever dealt with a statement like that in a book you read or in real life?
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Postby dothackzero » Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:28 pm

Actually, I've never heard something that bad before about God. Atleast from what I remember...
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Postby steenajack » Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:46 pm

I don't think it's weird at all. Pretty much for the same reason Atria said.

If someone says something you dissagree with, it'll effect you in some way, whether it was said in fiction or not.
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Postby Atria35 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:07 pm

dothackzero (post: 1445958) wrote:Actually, I've never heard something that bad before about God. Atleast from what I remember...


Then it's also a new experience. You'll find that it's not an uncommon, necessarily, viewpoint. Look at the circumstances that is was said under, and see if you might be able to see where she was coming from with that statement, what would prompt her to say it.
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Postby c.t.,girl » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:20 am

yeah when i heard her say that i felt the same way. you're not alone.
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Postby Wallachia » Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:15 pm

I dislike hearing negative things about my religion in any form of entertainment. Especially since despite being able to get around it with the thought, "It's just that character's opinion." it's usually a thought from the author's mind as well, so it tends to impact everyone else in the show at the time.

It's nice when a show has characters with multiple opinions or manages to clearly show some don't support a negative opinion [on Christianity or about God], but that's extremely rare.

Atleast if any negative statements about religion are made, they're usually spread pretty thin to avoid upsetting viewers who may disagree with the opinion in question.

It's still pretty annoying though. NHK was depressing enough and they didn't really need to throw it in, but coming from Misaki she obviously felt really betrayed. If Misaki didn't state it as a fact it would have been easier to get around.
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Postby ABlipinTime » Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:05 pm

Wallachia (post: 1446244) wrote:I dislike hearing negative things about my religion in any form of entertainment. Especially since despite being able to get around it with the thought, "It's just that character's opinion." it's usually a thought from the author's mind as well, so it tends to impact everyone else in the show at the time.

It's nice when a show has characters with multiple opinions or manages to clearly show some don't support a negative opinion [on Christianity or about God], but that's extremely rare.

Atleast if any negative statements about religion are made, they're usually spread pretty thin to avoid upsetting viewers who may disagree with the opinion in question...


I agree. And sadly, you're right, character's statements do reflect the author's point of view. But that's the way of the world. ... Not that I'd put up with it. (I refuse to watch Inception because of the blaspheme friends told me was in it)
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Postby Wallachia » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:57 pm

ABlipinTime (post: 1446811) wrote:I agree. And sadly, you're right, character's statements do reflect the author's point of view. But that's the way of the world. ... Not that I'd put up with it. (I refuse to watch Inception because of the blaspheme friends told me was in it)

Wait wait wait, blasphemy in Inception? Care to quote what you heard?

I don't recall anything anti-Christian in Inception and even Plugged in Online's review states, "... Inception steers well clear of overt religion or faith, its surreal, metaphysical environs throw viewers into a world that actually feels quite spiritual... " which is different from being directly off-putting.

Unless the idea of having to die to wake up easily while in a dream feels disturbing, I can't remember anything else to be too wary of... There was a lack of blood too despite the shooting and (dream) violence.

I mean, yes, depending on your views perhaps Inception might still be something to avoid, but I'm interested to hear what you have heard about it.
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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:08 am

Wow. Seriously? Some people use God's name in vain several times (less than many movies). I'm not saying it's a good thing but that's not a great to avoid seeing Inception. Other than that, there is very little inappropriate content.
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Postby TopazRaven » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:31 am

I don't think it's weird. I get insulted and upset when I hear or read someone saying anything about God like that.
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Postby Lynna » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:59 am

I've heard a classmate of mine say she hated God, so I don't think it's wierd. lot's of people think that way
Also, I second wanting to know exactly what kind of blasphemy was in "Inception" because I watched it and foud nothing wrong with it
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:02 am

Lynna (post: 1447202) wrote:Also, I second wanting to know exactly what kind of blasphemy was in "Inception" because I watched it and foud nothing wrong with it


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Postby Falx » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:20 am

I believe they're talking about using the name of God in vain, which is also blasphemy.

Under "Crude or Profane Language" we have:

Characters abuse Jesus' name five or six times and God's a dozen times—pairing it with "d‑‑n" another half-dozen. We also hear "a‑‑," "h‑‑‑," "b‑‑tard" and "bloody."
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Postby ABlipinTime » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:31 pm

Falx pinned the tail on the donkey, there.
I can't quote the movie for you, sorry guys, 'cause I didn't actually watch it myself (for various reasons, the mentioned of which being one of them).
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Postby Cardiche007 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:04 pm

Every time I hear someone say bad against God, I feel a pit opening beneath my feet. The thoughts too horrible. Like standing on your own grave and laughing horrible. Feels bad, man.
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Postby Nanao » Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:12 pm

it's not weird to be hurt about that. i've heard a lot of people say things like that. it's hard to hear bad things about something that is so close and personal. like Atria said it's ok to be upset about it.

interestingly, when the author via the character says that God is evil they are admitting that God actually exists. most people just go off and say God doesn't exist. anyhow, maybe i'm reading too much into it.
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