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Postby Roy Mustang » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:18 pm

'Star Wars' films going 3-D

USA Today wrote:Star Wars has always taken place a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away. Now it will take place in another dimension: 3-D.

Lucasfilm has decided to reprocess the series into that format and release the films in theaters again, starting in 2012 with the 1999 prequelThe Phantom Menace. It's only one-sixth of the news that Star Wars fans have been waiting to hear, but it's the first step toward converting the other prequels and original trilogy.

"The process is really extensive, and we want to make sure each of the films gets the attention it needs, so we're not ready to talk about the release patterns of the other films," says Lucasfilm spokeswoman Lynne Hale.

The highest-quality 3-D is achieved by shooting with cameras that capture two images simultaneously, just as two eyes would, which was the process used to film Avatar. But films that are not originally shot with 3-D cameras, such as the Star Wars series, can undergo a computerized refinishing that creates the illusion of depth.

It requires that each image in the film be scanned and slightly adjusted to create two images, as if viewed from two eyes. When those images are projected on a screen and viewed through polarized lenses, the brain perceives three dimensions.

But when the process is rushed, it can — in Star Wars terms — give people "a bad feeling about this."

Some recent 2-D films, such as the Clash of the Titans remake and The Last Airbender, were hastily converted shortly before their releases to claim the prestige (and higher ticket prices) of a 3-D experience, but audiences and critics balked at the low quality of the presentation. Even relentless 3-D prosthelytizer Jeffrey Katzenberg of DreamWorks Animation has scorned such quick changes as sloppy.

That's why Lucasfilm is being cautious and not locking itself into a strict timeline. Even the approximate season of release for The Phantom Menace in 2012 is being left open.

To oversee the conversion, the series is getting its own Jedi knight of digital imagery: John Knoll, visual effects supervisor for Industrial Light & Magic (and coincidentally the co-creator, with his brother, of Adobe Photoshop).

He described the process of converting the films as a partnership between a human artist and the digital precision of a computer, intricately studying and adjusting every frame.

"You're generating a synthetic second eye," Knoll says. "You're finding out where the boundaries of objects are in the scene and what their distance is to the camera, and you're using that information to generate (3-D)."

Only so much of the work can be done automatically by computer, and even then it has to be studied closely by a human being. "If you see a round object, you're reconstructing what is behind it," Knoll says, since both "eyes" see a slightly different perspective than the 2-D image allowed.

Although the prequels were shot more recently than the original trilogy, converting them will be more complicated because there is more intricacy to the background effects. Knoll cites a chase scene through a galactic city's floating traffic in Attack of the Clones as a particular challenge. "There are thousands and thousands of flying images," he says. "But the nice thing about stereo (visuals) is you get this wonderful immersive effect if it's done right."


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Postby Cognitive Gear » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:25 pm

I'm all for 3D movies, but this conversion process is terrible and pointless in every way.
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:41 pm

Siiiiiiiigghhh. George Lucas really just needs to let it die. </understatement of the year> XD Not that I'm surprised, but still--starting with the prequels? Yikes. XD
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:02 pm

Baaaaarf.
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Postby Yuki-Anne » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:31 pm

Are they going to rewrite the script to make the characters 3-D, too?
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:35 pm

Yuki-Anne (post: 1427680) wrote:Are they going to rewrite the script to make the characters 3-D, too?


Ooohh snap! Well played! XD

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Also, I thought it might be nice to convey with an animated image how I think many of us feel about this 3D conversion decision:

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Postby battletech » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:45 am

Lucas finds another way to make money off Star Wars.:o" I am shocked truly shocked about this.":o:grin:
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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:58 am

I read a really really interesting interview with the guy that helped Lucas in the very beginning with story-writing. Evidently the ending of ROTJ was supposed to be something much different. The plan was that they'd defeat the empire, but Han would die in the process and Luke would wander off as a drifter into the sunset never to be really heard from again. He said that he'd left the entire SW project when he and Lucas started having fights over how the story should go because Lucas had started taking cues from what would do good from a toy production standpoint. Knowing that you can see the major shift from Empire to Jedi and how Jedi devloved into Menace, Attack of the Clones, and Revenge of the Sith.
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Postby Cognitive Gear » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:18 am

Etoh*the*Greato (post: 1427761) wrote:I read a really really interesting interview with the guy that helped Lucas in the very beginning with story-writing. Evidently the ending of ROTJ was supposed to be something much different. The plan was that they'd defeat the empire, but Han would die in the process and Luke would wander off as a drifter into the sunset never to be really heard from again. He said that he'd left the entire SW project when he and Lucas started having fights over how the story should go because Lucas had started taking cues from what would do good from a toy production standpoint. Knowing that you can see the major shift from Empire to Jedi and how Jedi devloved into Menace, Attack of the Clones, and Revenge of the Sith.


I am reminded of this:

First.

Later.
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:56 am

Yeah, by Jedi the cracks were definitely showing.

You guys should check out the documentary Empire of Dreams. It's long, but it's pretty interesting. Actually, it kind of made me start liking Star Wars again.

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Postby blkmage » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:21 pm

I liked Daring Fireball's headline for this item.

"George Lucas Continues Work on His Promise to Keep Making the Original Star Wars Trilogy Worse"
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Postby Bobtheduck » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:39 am

I love 3D! When it's the real kind. Not post-production conversion...

I'll pass. Maybe they'll re-release them in 2d and I can see New Hope and Return of the Jedi in theaters finally. I only got Empire the last re-release
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Postby Blitzkrieg1701 » Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:27 pm

As long as this stay a purely technical update, with no actual new characters/scenes/Jar-Jars added, it COULD actually be interesting. History has proven this to be a very, VERY big "if" though.
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