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Postby rocklobster » Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:37 am

Death is pretty common in anime. Sometimes it seems they can really make us hate to see characters die. So, which characters did you hate to see die?
For me it would be:

Naruto Shippuden
[spoiler]
Azuma in Naruto Shippuden[/spoiler]

Naruto
[spoiler]The Third Hokage in Naruto[/spoiler]

Death Note
[spoiler]L in Death Note[/spoiler]

Grave of the Fireflies
[spoiler]Both protaganists in Grave of the Fireflies[/spoiler]

Trigun
[spoiler]Wolfwood in Trigun[/spoiler]

Haibane Renmei
[spoiler]Kuu in Haibane Renmei[/spoiler]

Cowboy Bebop
[spoiler]Spike in Cowboy Bebop[/spoiler]
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Postby Maokun » Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:29 am

Maybe it will be good if you separated the spoilers by series. I just was horribly spoiled in one of the series I'm watching. I'd be more upset if I didn't see it coming, but still a small part of me was holding up hopes for him.
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Postby LadyRushia » Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:05 am

Good idea Maokun.

From Code Geass
[SPOILER]Euphemia. That whole situation was just horrible, although I don't remember if she stayed dead or not. Also, the part where Shirley's father died was sad.[/SPOILER]

From Sailor Moon
[SPOILER]Okay, I know everyone comes back to life all the time in Sailor Moon, but when everyone died near the end of Stars, it was really sad, especially Rei[/SPOILER]

From Cowboy Bebop
[SPOILER]Spiiiiiikkkkkkeeeee D: That scene was so good but so sad! I was also sad when Ed and Ein just left[/SPOILER]

From Negima
[SPOILER]Asuna. Yeah, she came back to life and all that, but it was still sad![/SPOILER]
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Postby wildpurplechild » Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:43 pm

Naruto:[SPOILER] Deidara, Asuma, and Kimimaro (such awesome powers)[/SPOILER]
FMA: [SPOILER]Hughs, and the little girl/dog chimera[/SPOILER]
Fruits Basket?: [SPOILER]It's really sad that Tohru's mom died, but that happened at the beginning.[/SPOILER]
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Postby KhakiBlueSocks » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:02 pm

[font="Trebuchet MS"][SIZE="4"][color="RoyalBlue"]Along with the ones listed before me:

"Death Note: The Last Name" (Live Action Movie)
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[Spoiler]I think L's death in the LAM is more touching and sad than the one in the anime. Especially when the scene cuts and we see the picture of Watari next to him. [/spoiler]
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[spoiler]Mitsuki's death was very excruciating to watch. When she's trying so hard to run along the beach on her own nearly brought me to tears. [/spoiler]

[font="Trebuchet MS"][SIZE="4"][color="RoyalBlue"]"Mahou Sensei Negima!"[/color][/SIZE][/font]

[spoiler]That scene was very hard to watch...not so much the fact that Asuna died (after all, she came back) but watching everyone, especially Negi break down in the following episode was really hard to watch. It would be almost impossible to watch if we could actually hear all the crying. [/spoiler]
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Postby airichan623 » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:13 pm

naruto:
[SPOILER] itachi and gaara (for like 3 chapters in shippuden)[/SPOILER]

tsubasa:
[SPOILER] sakura (her soul went into 'dreams' but still)[/SPOILER]
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Postby Roy Mustang » Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:54 pm

None.

If anime had no deaths, then it would just be like most US cartoons, where it doesn't have any drama to it.

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Postby LadyRushia » Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:08 pm

KhakiBlueSocks wrote:[spoiler]That scene was very hard to watch...not so much the fact that Asuna died (after all, she came back) but watching everyone, especially Negi break down in the following episode was really hard to watch. It would be almost impossible to watch if we could actually hear all the crying.[/spoiler]


Yeah, that was the saddest part, seeing how everyone else reacted.
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:59 pm

Mobile Suit Gundam

[spoiler]Garma Zabi. I mean, what a way to go-- betrayed by one of your close friends.[/spoiler]

Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket

[spoiler]Bernie Wiseman. ;___;[/spoiler]

Space Runaway Ideon

[spoiler]The entire cast.[/spoiler]

Death Note

[spoiler]I was spoiled on L's death and it upset me enough to never read Death Note again.[/spoiler]

Gundam Wing

[spoiler]Treize Khushrenada. I mean, I understand why he had to die but still. He was easily one of the best characters in that series.[/spoiler]
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Postby Mr. Hat'n'Clogs » Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:24 pm

Roy Mustang (post: 1324335) wrote:None.

If anime has no deaths, then it was just be like most US cartoons, where it doesn't have any drama to it.

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I have to admit, I'm with Roy on this one. While there are some deaths that were sad, and rockolobster's Shippuden one(I'm unaware of how to spoiler) made me cry, I can't say I've seen any that weren't well done or neccessary. Not saying that I wouldn't mind the character surviving sometimes.
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Postby danceljoy » Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:28 pm

Almost everyone who died in Gundam Seed/Destiny:

[spoiler]Nicol Amarfi- He's so young and pure-hearted!!!
Natarle Badgriuel- A wonderful commander and a noble person
Fllay Allster- I HATED HER BUT I CAN'T HELP BUT CRY TO THE FACT THAT SHE WAS NEVER BEEN ABLE TO APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE TO WHAT SHE HAD DONE. She was immature, lost and bad but she realized her mistakes and wanted to make up with everyone. WAR IS SO :bang:
Stellar Loussier- I know she killed a lot of people, but she was being controlled. Reminds me of sin taking control of us.
Rey Za Burrel/ Dullindal/ Talia- A sad "family" death
[/spoiler]
And in Gankutsuou:

[spoiler]
Franz Epinay- IT'S SO SAD. He loves Albert so much. I hate it when people joke of him as gay when I see pure friendship in him. I firmly believe that a man loving another man not in a sexual context is fine.
Edmond Dantes- the result of revenge, at least he found forgiveness and love from Albert. Touching.
[/spoiler]


Code GeaSS

[spoiler]
Euphemia- pure tragic accident!!! Innocent girl...
Shirley- Pure tragic accident
Rolo- Pure tragic sacrifice
*Lelouch- kinda reminded me of Jesus' best sacrifice ever, but in Lelouch's case, he deserves it for his sins while Jesus never did a single wrongdoing. I'm a "Lelouch is alive" supporter also.
[/spoiler]


FMA
[spoiler]
Maes Hughes- he's a sweet father...
Nina- very innocent little girl!!!
Wrath- a child
Lust- she just wants to be human...
[/spoiler]

Naruto
[spoiler]
Haku- like a snow...
Sarutobi Sensei- a heroic death of an elder
Chiyo- same as the one above
Asuma- he left behind a family
[/spoiler]

Rurouni Kenshin OVA's:
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Tomoe- her love is true
Kenshin- a true swordsman to protect, but also a real atoner. Life is just harsh sometimes[/spoiler]
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Postby Bobtheduck » Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:36 pm

Roy Mustang (post: 1324335) wrote:None.

If anime had no deaths, then it would just be like most US cartoons, where it doesn't have any drama to it.

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I think true enjoyment of fiction comes from being able to suspend disbelief and treat the characters and situations as real. Of course, good stories nearly always have death in them, but at the same time I still hate to see some characters die. Heck, I even hate to see some characters die in my own stories. Does their death help the story? In some cases, yes. Doesn't make it suck any less.

As for Grave of the Fireflies, it was mostly a true story [spoiler] The biggest exception being that "Seita" (not his real name) didn't die in real life... Because he was the author of the book. His death was metaphorical.[/spoiler]
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Postby danceljoy » Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:51 pm

Bobtheduck (post: 1324428) wrote:I think true enjoyment of fiction comes from being able to suspend disbelief and treat the characters and situations as real. Of course, good stories nearly always have death in them, but at the same time I still hate to see some characters die. Heck, I even hate to see some characters die in my own stories. Does their death help the story? In some cases, yes. Doesn't make it suck any less.


That's why my parents would rather want me to watch animes than cartoons when I was young. They don't like the idea of loony toons :hits_self each other for fun or bullying. My father says that in animes we see characters bleed, cry and fight for a reason. I'm not saying that cartoons are bad, sometimes they are just as violent.

And if nobody dies, it's something like this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DisneyDeath
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Postby Maokun » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:38 pm

LadyRushia wrote:From Cowboy Bebop

[spoiler]Spiiiiiikkkkkkeeeee D: That scene was so good but so sad![/spoiler]


Bang.

Well, to add mine

Naruto
[spoiler] Haku and Zabuza. And Chouji (except that in the end he survived, but until we knew that, it was quite emotional. Part of me wishes he actually died, it would have made his courage more valuable]

Saber Marionette J to X

[spoiler]Lime, Cherry and Bloodberry at the end of the series. Yeah I know they later reincarnated...well, no actually, they just "incarnated". But it just wasn't the same.[/spoiler]
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Postby Bobtheduck » Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:58 am

After having just finished Air...

[spoiler]Yukito and Misuzu, of course. I'm gonna guess Kano finally (and peacfully) settled in the girl on the beach when Misuzu and Yukuito meet for the first time, so at least she got her peace at the end, finally knowing the love of a mother, but that doesn't make either death any less sad. Also, Yukito's only purpose being to free Kano from her nightmares seemed kind of wasteful to me... His death seemed a bit pointless in that regard. So, I suppose I really don't like that death, but Misuzu's death was just really sad.[/spoiler]
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Postby S.M.O.G. » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:42 pm

Death note
[spoiler]L[/spoiler]

Naruto
[spoiler]Zabuza, I would have liked for him to have more screentime before his death.[/spoiler]


And please, clarify between Naruto and Naruto Shippuden. I just started Shippuden, and got spoilers from it when it looked like someone was referring to part one.. This would be a good idea for all multi-part series.
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Postby CrimsonRyu17 » Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:41 pm

Death Note:

[spoiler]Surprise, Light. I was actually a bit sad that he died, especially since that meant the series was over and he was the only real character that interested me besides Matt whose small roll was kinda pathetic. I was actually rooting for Light most of the time too. L was just too boring to me, I was all "SHEYAH, GO LIGHT" when he dropped ded. Oh, I bet I just angered some fangirls.[/spoiler]

Wolf's Rain:

[spoiler]Cher and Darcia. Cher's death just came out of NOWHERE. It was liek, "OMGWTFBBQ." And she and Hubb had just resolved their relationship! Not even a minute afterward! That killed me inside. Darcia's downfall was just plain sad and pitiful to watch.[/spoiler]
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Postby mysngoeshere56 » Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:52 pm

wildpurplechild (post: 1324271) wrote:FMA: [SPOILER]and the little girl/dog chimera[/SPOILER]
Fruits Basket?: [SPOILER]It's really sad that Tohru's mom died, but that happened at the beginning.[/SPOILER]


I completely agree with both of those. I almost cried when I found out about both. Especially the FMA one. I was in SHOCK! :waah!:
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Postby Maokun » Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:44 pm

I just finished Death Note 25, so let me add my voice to many others':

[spoiler]L :([/spoiler]
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Postby teigeki_calesa » Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:52 am

Personally, I don't mind anime deaths. I do agree that they add a great deal of drama. But it SUCKS greatly if it's your fave that dies; and when everyone just dies left and right as to paint a "no-hope", nihilistic message; that's when I totally give up on a show.

BTW, The only anime death that I hated the most and I can't get over even if it's been over 10 years since I've watched it is:

Voltes V
[spoiler]Heinel. People may rant over and over that he just deserved to die because of the crimes he had done, but I see him as an unlucky victim of circumstance; with nothing else to live for but his pride; and realized too late that he actually has a family to hold on to aside from that. I could say a lot more, but I don't want to launch into another morality diatribe. He would've done a lot of good things to make up for what he did (he saved his younger half-bro Kenichi in the end and died as a result); maybe he has to die to redeem himself but still....:bang:[/spoiler]
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Postby Akira Takahashi » Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:10 pm

Saikano - Definately not my favorite anime, but there was one episode that stood out:

[Spoiler]Akemi's death. This has to be the hardest thing ever, aside from Barefoot Gen. Watching her die during the course of the episode affected me for a long time.[/Spoiler]

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[Spoiler]Folken's death.[/Spoiler]

I know there's more, but my brain is shut off.
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:37 pm

teigeki_calesa (post: 1325900) wrote:
BTW, The only anime death that I hated the most and I can't get over even if it's been over 10 years since I've watched it is:

Voltes V
[spoiler]Heinel. People may rant over and over that he just deserved to die because of the crimes he had done, but I see him as an unlucky victim of circumstance]


I agree! I cried over him, because I actually really liked him a lot and felt he didn't deserve that fate.

Also, if you didn't cry your eyes out in FMA over... [spoiler]Nina and her dog[/spoiler] ...then you have no heart!
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Postby mysngoeshere56 » Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:54 pm

I just got some ideas.....

Sailor Moon R
[spoiler]Saphir. I definitely wanted him to survive so he could live the life of a civilian with Petz after the battle. Sadly, he didn't. :([/spoiler]

Oh, and same with.... (Sailor Moon - First Season)
[spoiler]Naru and Nephrite[/spoiler]
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Postby Raiden no Kishi » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:37 pm

Mr. Hat'n'Clogs (post: 1324407) wrote:I have to admit, I'm with Roy on this one. While there are some deaths that were sad, and rockolobster's Shippuden one(I'm unaware of how to spoiler) made me cry, I can't say I've seen any that weren't well done or neccessary. Not saying that I wouldn't mind the character surviving sometimes.


I don't think that's the point of the thread. If I'm reading it correctly, the point is to list whose deaths had particular emotional effect on you. Perhaps it would then be better said that you could list some of the character deaths which you found most effective in their narrative purpose.

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Postby Maokun » Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:46 am

Akira Takahashi (post: 1325942) wrote:Saikano - Definately not my favorite anime, but there was one episode that stood out:

[spoiler]Akemi's death. This has to be the hardest thing ever, aside from Barefoot Gen. Watching her die during the course of the episode affected me for a long time.[/spoiler]


Ah you brought this back from the obscurity of my selective memory. [spoiler]I'd dare say the whole series stands better than any single ep as a slow, unavoidable story of the death of humanity both literal and metaphorically represented in the deaths of the main characters. Great series but "Bleak" doesn't even start to define it.[/spoiler]
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Postby teigeki_calesa » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:10 am

ShiroiHikari (post: 1325956) wrote:I agree! I cried over him, because I actually really liked him a lot and felt he didn't deserve that fate.


Many a manly man here in the Philippines were reduced to tears at that scene. As for me, I didn't cry]THIS[/URL]

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But back on topic; personally, there's just too many "blood, doom and destruction" in anime nowadays that I can't seem to find any death that actually shook me aside from what I just said. I mean, death is just too common...well, except for

Blood+
[spoiler]Riku. At the hands of Diva. Raping him just before killing him off?I was like, "Ow. What a WAY to go." [/spoiler].
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Postby Blitzkrieg1701 » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:07 pm

Surprisingly, I rarely seem to get attached to the characters who end up dieing, so I had to think pretty hard to come up with an answer here. Eventually, I found myself settling on an answer several people have already mentioned:

Code Geass:
[spoiler]Euphemia: Even though I found her kind of annoying most of the time, the sheer "cosmic accident" aspect of her death, not to mention the chaos it unleashed, packed quite a wallop. It also represents one of the last points that I actually cared about Code Geass, so that's kind of sad as well. :P [/spoiler]
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Postby Sae-chan » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:31 pm

Definitely...

Naruto
[spoiler]Asuma, Kakashi (though he came back to life later), and Itachi[/spoiler]
FMA
[spoiler]Hughes! He was seriously awesome![/spoiler]
Hikaru no Go
[spoiler]Sai. Definitely Sai. [/spoiler]
Yep. I never cried, but it was pretty sad.
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Postby GeneD » Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:55 am

ShiroiHikari (post: 1325956) wrote:Also, if you didn't cry your eyes out in FMA over... [spoiler]Nina and her dog[/spoiler] ...then you have no heart!
I didn't cry over this, but it was very sad. I found it worse than the other "big" FMA death, since that one was spoiled for me before I watched the series.
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Postby the_wolfs_howl » Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:03 pm

It seems that my favorite character is usually the one to kick the can first. And somehow, I'm always surprised and sad when it happens. As awful as it is to watch a beloved character die, I don't think I would ever change any of these. They add depth to their stories, some of them have ramifications that are necessary to the story, and they're so much better than them sort-of-dying-but-then-they're-okay :shady:

This one comes first, since I just watched it the other day and it's in the forefront of my mind:

Death Note
[spoiler]L! I was totally not expecting it, and all through that prolonged scene where he breathes his last, I was sure that somehow he'd get out of it somehow. He had to! He was too cool to die! :waah!: I didn't actually cry, but I just sat frozen in my chair for a long time after that. It was a beautifully-done death scene, and very fitting for him, but still, to see him defeated like that....[/spoiler]

FMA (first anime)
[spoiler]Hughes, of course. He was the happiest, silliest of all the characters, so of course he was the one who had to die first. What I love about it is that he died trying to help Ed and Al, and his last words were, "I have a wife and kid at home."
Nina Tucker. That was really the first death of the series (not counting their mother, I suppose), and when she was turned into a chimera and then killed, that was the first time I was utterly convinced that this wasn't just a casual, enjoyable story. It's a story of life and death and sacrifice, and so much deeper than anything I'd seen before that.
Scar. After all that time of trying to hunt Ed down and kill him, he actually ended up giving his life to help him. I always tear up in his final scene where he says, "I wanted to tell my brother that I loved him."
Lust. Like Scar, she's a villain who actually ended up helping Ed and Al. I like how she was given more depth by wondering whether she's human or whether she has a soul, and where she came from and where she's going. It's very sad that the main reason she wanted to become human was so she could die.
Edward Elric. Yeah, I know he comes back to life and everything, but his death devastated me the first time I saw Episode 50. After all he'd gone through, all the sacrifices he'd made, he ended up with nothing....[/spoiler]

Haibane Renmei
[spoiler]Kuu's death was really sad. She was always so cheerful, and then when she had her Day of Flight, she left Rakka so sad....[/spoiler]

Last Exile
[spoiler]Dio Eraclea. Just when I stopped thinking of him as a weird villain and started liking his strange personality, all of that was taken away from him. It made Maestro Delphine even more evil than before.[/spoiler]

Wolf's Rain
[spoiler]Well, basically everybody, but Toboe got me the most. He was the most "innocent" of all of them, and all he wanted was just to comfort Quent and help people out, but he was the first to die. I get so choked up when I watch the scene where Tsume tells Toboe goodbye :waah!:[/spoiler]

Vision of Escaflowne
[spoiler]Folken. It's been a long time since I've seen it, but I remember I was really sad when he died. Older brothers who sacrifice themselves for their younger brothers' sake always get me.[/spoiler]
You can find out things about the past that you never knew. And from what you've learned, you may see some things differently in the present. You're the one that changes. Not the past.
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