E3 2009

[Scarecrow]

Ok never mind. I found the video I was looking for ^_^

http://www.movieweb.com/play/VIcs7jdeqMBAfg?KeepThis=true&height=557&width=980&TB_iframe=true

I'm so looking forward to this movie!!! I was hoping they would show part of the game to get a better idea of the look and stuff of the movie (I really don't care about the game much at this point).

The game also sounds cool but we'll see.

[Bobtheduck]

[quote="Mister Frodo (post: 1316460)"]As one of the few Halo fanboys here, I'll be the first in this thread to say I'm stoked for Halo 3: ODST. From what I've seen of it, it's going to be the closest to playing as Jayne Cobb from Firefly as you can get in a video game. (Unless there's a Firefly video game I know nothing about.) Also, more Halo never hurts. ]

Um... If you're that much of a Halo fanboy, wouldn't you know ODST is old news, and the big Halo game coming up is Reach? Which I'm actually pretty stoked for, provided it follows the book... for once...

Bungie shouldn't commission things if they're not going to accept them into Canon.

[Mister Frodo]

Um... If you're that much of a Halo fanboy, wouldn't you know ODST is old news, and the big Halo game coming up is Reach? Which I'm actually pretty stoked for, provided it follows the book... for once...

Bungie shouldn't commission things if they're not going to accept them into Canon.

I know ODST was announced last year; I just got excited about it because they showed gameplay footage from it for the first time. Also, the fact that it's coming out in about 3 months makes me more stoked for it than Reach. XD Still, Reach does look pretty interesting. I'll definitely keep an eye on it.

[blkmage]

Hilariously, at the Square Enix press conference today, the first thing they said was that FFXIV wasn't PS3 exclusive and that they were considering all hardware options.

Oh, Sony.

[TriezGamer]

I find people getting enraged over FFXIV to be amusing. It hasn't affected the development of FFXIII, and it's not going to affect the development of FFXV, so if you're not gonna play, then Just. Don't. Play it.

Also, as someone who was initially against FFXI being titled as such, due to it's MMORPG nature, I no longer care because FFXI turned out to have one of the best plotlines in Final Fantasy history. A shame you have to play several hundred hours to experience it though.

[Azier the Swordsman]

I find people getting enraged over FFXIV to be amusing. It hasn't affected the development of FFXIII, and it's not going to affect the development of FFXV, so if you're not gonna play, then Just. Don't. Play it.

It has nothing to do with development. It's just irritating that there will be gaps in my collection because I don't play MMORPGs (anymore), and it will end up being twice as long before we get a new single player Final Fantasy after XIII. There is no reason the online Final Fantasies shouldn't be their own separate series.

[MasterDias]

Yeah, I don't really have a problem with Square-Enix making another MMORPG in general (although that does mean it will delay the inevitable XV). However, I find it infinitely silly and awkward that they consider it a numerical installment in the series. They didn't call Final Fantasy Tactics with a number.

[TriezGamer]

What I'm trying to get at is this:

If 'not having gaps in the collection' is so important to you, buy the game and throw it in your collection. You don't have to play it.

If a different style of gameplay is enough justification to remove it from the roman-numeral succession of games, where's the uproar about FFXII, the almost-interactive screenplay?

I seriously doubt FFXIV will in any way impact the release of FFXV. It has it's own development team. FFXI was under active development during the development of FFXII and FFXIII, and FFXIV has been under development during the development of FFXIII as well.

[Bobtheduck]

New PS3 DDR... Finally the cold war between Bemani team and Sony is over... About flangnerdling time.

Oh, and Karaoke Revolution... Does this mean a PS3 version? Because Singstar doesn't have a Japanese version, KR hasn't had a PS3 version yet, and PS3 is region free... I'd love to import the Japanese KR... I'd much prefer that to the American Singstar, for sure.

[Ingemar]

It's just irritating that there will be gaps in my collection

Then that's your fault either (1) for being a cheapskate or (2) insisting on owning EVERY SINGLE NUMBERED FINAL FANTASY THERE IS.

Making too big a deal over this, people. Also, I just love the inevitability of a Final Fantasy XV.

[blkmage]

Then that's your fault either (1) for being a cheapskate or (2) insisting on owning EVERY SINGLE NUMBERED FINAL FANTASY THERE IS.

Making too big a deal over this, people. Also, I just love the inevitability of a Final Fantasy XV.

By induction, we should eventually have a Final Fantasy for every positive integer.

[Bobtheduck]

By induction, we should eventually have a Final Fantasy for every positive integer.

Final Fantasy XXX, anyone?

[TriezGamer]

>>Final Fantasy XXX, anyone?

If it gets to that point, I would be wildly amused if it turned out to be a eroge visual novel.

[Bobtheduck]

>>Final Fantasy XXX, anyone?

If it gets to that point, I would be wildly amused if it turned out to be a fluffy bunny simulator.

Indeed.

...

*cough*

[Ingemar]

Right, let's get back on topic.

The coming of Super Mario Galaxy 2 reminds me that I still have to finish number 1. Also, I was hoping Kojima would know better than to milk the Metal Gear franchise for all its worth. Although I didn't play MGS4 (I did see the part from boarding Outer Haven to the very end, which took like five hours) I'm beginning to think Kojima will pull a George Lucas and create game(s) which are very expensive failures but are lucrative anyway. I'd rather he work on other games.

[Jingo Jaden]

No more heros 2 O______O

As for the FF franchise, I am not going to buy anymore until I am convinced that it i a good buy. Ever since FF IX the franchise has nothing less than plunged in quality. At least story-wise at either rate which was what I liked the most about some previous FF games. That, and the trailers for the coming one has made me much more skeptical than what I would like to be.

[Bobtheduck]

Right, let's get back on topic.

The coming of Super Mario Galaxy 2 reminds me that I still have to finish number 1. Also, I was hoping Kojima would know better than to milk the Metal Gear franchise for all its worth. Although I didn't play MGS4 (I did see the part from boarding Outer Haven to the very end, which took like five hours) I'm beginning to think Kojima will pull a George Lucas and create game(s) which are very expensive failures but are lucrative anyway. I'd rather he work on other games.

I'm standing by what I said. I don't think it's Kojima milking it. I think it's Konami milking it. And if Kojima leaves, Konami still makes metal gear games... Think about that.

I just saw the new Uncharted 2 trailer... I had forgotten about it because it wasn't a NEW announcement. And I'm impressed... Again. "Elana Fischer. Last year's model" This is shaping up to be another great game.

And Invizimals... If Sony pushes it, this could be something. It's part pokemon, part geocaching lite (much like some of the recruiting in MGS Portable ops)

Then there's Heavy Rain... I know it's going to be niche, because people will write it off as "Dragon's Lair 2009", just one giant QTE, but I really do believe this is something different. Now, I may be proven wrong when it arrives, but the idea of no game over is very intriguing, as is the multiple story directions.

Oh, and I haven't played DDR in... like... 2 years or more, but I'm thinking of busting it out to prepare for the new 8 arrow DDR coming out. I tried Pump it up and didn't do too well, so I'm just hoping there are a good number of songs with 4 arrows only, but if I can get good at 8 arrows, why not? I hope the new controller is backward's compatible (since I have a 60 gig PS3)

[blkmage]

No more heros 2 O______O

As for the FF franchise, I am not going to buy anymore until I am convinced that it i a good buy. Ever since FF IX the franchise has nothing less than plunged in quality. At least story-wise at either rate which was what I liked the most about some previous FF games. That, and the trailers for the coming one has made me much more skeptical than what I would like to be.

What elements of the story of the latest FF games is so terrible? I haven't played them, so I'm not familiar with them, but based on my cursory understanding of the plot in each, I've assumed that the only really poor one is FFX-2.

[TriezGamer]

I think it's largely just an issue of people having different ideas of what makes a story good. Personally, I thought VII, VIII, and X were sub-par -- with VII being the worst of the three -- and yet for many people they're the best in the series.

[Nate]

It may also be nostalgia coloring things. The first FF game didn't have a plot really to speak of. The second...was actually pretty good. I never got far in the third, I really like the plot of IV even if the big reveal about Golbez was lame, the story in V was good (if a bit slow), the story in VI was excellent.

The story in VII was kinda lame, but the story in VIII was the worst in my view. IX was good, and X was just meh (although I liked the plot twist in that one).

And I guess the story in XII was good, but it wasn't anything special...pretty standard. Tactics still has the best story.

[Jingo Jaden]

What elements of the story of the latest FF games is so terrible? I haven't played them, so I'm not familiar with them, but based on my cursory understanding of the plot in each, I've assumed that the only really poor one is FFX-2.

Well, the main problem is that the main characters lack personality, not as if they don't have enough, they are more or less WITHOUT any personality. I am not too familiar with the online versions, but Tidus and Vaan was nothing more than mere spectators to a lesser or greater degree, even though they start the story.

Now, the design is alright, they tend to take their time to make the design uniqe and inntresting. I am not going to complain about the combat structure, it is FF and that's alright. However, the story has dramatically decreased in quality. I mean, pretty much everyone has different opinions when it comes to FF games, I really liked FF VI and FF IX. I thought FF VIII was alright and I disliked FF 7, even though I disliked it does not mean that it is not a great game, I just found the characters overly emo and thus that deleted any empathy in most cases.

However, an FF game with great graphics, the FF combat structure and bad/average storyline is nothing more than a shell of a game. I'd rather go with Nippon Ichi games, sure, you won't get awesome combat gameplay or top of the line graphics, but they more or less always come with a tight storyline, a trademark combat system much like FF and likeable characters. I would probably rate their game Soul Nomad and the World eaters as the third or second best game on the PS2. Behind Persona 4 and MAYBE God Hand, which I found amazing as well.

[TriezGamer]

... OK, I'm possibly one of the biggest NIS fanatics on the planet, but outside of Soul Nomad, La Pucelle, and to a lesser degree Phantom Brave and Disgaea: Hour of Darkness ... the stories really aren't that great. The gameplay is awesome though.

[MasterDias]

Final Fantasy XII's problem was probably that it was heavily-focused towards gameplay than story really, and had nearly non-existent character development for most of the cast. I liked the game, but it was probably the only Final Fantasy from IV on up where I didn't have some sort of attachment to someone in the main cast.
Regarding the other entries, it's a matter of taste. I've generally enjoyed all of them to various degrees.

About Nippon Ichi, I liked the style for the most part, but found power-leveling characters and overly-complicated customization quite tedious after a while. Admittedly, I only played two of their games (Disgaea and Phantom Brave) but have assumed the others are generally similar.

[TriezGamer]

I think the lack of character development in XII stems largely from the fact that the story wasn't about the characters as much as it was about the nations.

[Ingemar]

I'm standing by what I said. I don't think it's Kojima milking it. I think it's Konami milking it. And if Kojima leaves, Konami still makes metal gear games... Think about that.

*suddenly remembers Metal Gear Ac!d and Snake's Revenge*

Actually, I wouldn't mind a new Metal Gear if it were more game and less "interminably long movie loaded with navel gazing".

[Bobtheduck]

*suddenly remembers Metal Gear Ac!d and Snake's Revenge*

Actually, I wouldn't mind a new Metal Gear if it were more game and less "interminably long movie

You got your peanut butter in my chocolate!

You gotta keep'em separated.

[battletech]

Does anyone else think that Samus's voice in the Metriod trailer sounded like Lucy Lawless from Zena?

[Amzi Live]

I loled at the fact that Square Enix announced FF XIV. It's cool and all but I've always been under the impression that they enjoy watching the faces of amused fans drooling over. LOL But hey,as long as they keep making awesome games like they've been doing so far I'm cool with it. xP

Knights of the Old Republic also hinted to being just awesome. I mean Sith vs Jedi!!!! That trailer was just Epic.
But yeah! There were some neat stuff.

[Jingo Jaden]

Well, no suprises so far although I found this, which did not really make me jump up and down either.



I just hope they abastain from the twillight princess formula, but they seem to have grown more addicted too them. If anything, it looks like a spirit form of the master sword. So I am guessing they will really prioritise the swordplay which is great, but I am also guessing that the 'half dark' factor they stuck too in TP will be built more upon which does not please me.



Other than that I have a faint hope that prototype will be decent, although I think it won't. Alot of games look too much like their prequals with a new feature or two.

[KeybladeWarrior]

Isn't that girl in front of Link from Wind Waker for the Gamecube? She is the fairy that gave Link fire and ice arrows. The next Zelda game is during the Wind Waker timeline?