General Lust Prayer Thread (WARNING: Mature Content)

[Aleolus]

Amen to that, brother! There is nothing wrong with looking at a beautiful woman and saying "Wow, look at how wonderful God is!" The problem comes when you look at her and think "Dang, I'd tap that" or similar.

[MangArtist]

They didn't mean don't look at girls period. XD I've got 4 sisters so that would kinda be impossible. They meant if there's large amounts of skin showing to look away. I was also taught that back before I had lusting issues so I think it was more so I wouldn't get into that.
Looking at girls in general my parents don't have a problem with. Otherwise I'd be living in a box. =P
Think is, when I zone out sometimes my eyes sometimes lock onto certain areas on a girls body.(my eyes randomly lock onto things when I zone out) When I come back to reality I realize where my eyes are and then I feel guilty about it. So I feel like I'm doing something wrong whenever I look at a girls body. Like if a girl is showing me the design on her shirt I feel like I'm doing something wrong looking in that area.

Yeah, I'm going to wait for my dad to give me the go ahead before I read the book again.

*sigh* I wish I could just rip out whatever makes those hormones and put it back in after I'm married. -_-

[Prince Asbel]

They didn't mean don't look at girls period. XD I've got 4 sisters so that would kinda be impossible. They meant if there's large amounts of skin showing to look away. I was also taught that back before I had lusting issues so I think it was more so I wouldn't get into that.

Well, it looks like you were getting some good instruction.

Think is, when I zone out sometimes my eyes sometimes lock onto certain areas on a girls body.(my eyes randomly lock onto things when I zone out) When I come back to reality I realize where my eyes are and then I feel guilty about it. So I feel like I'm doing something wrong whenever I look at a girls body. Like if a girl is showing me the design on her shirt I feel like I'm doing something wrong looking in that area.

Right, I know what you mean. It's kind of an automatic thing. It helps to look away when you catch yourself staring though. It's only polite. Though, I would say that there are plenty of shirts that are meant to draw stares WITHOUT someone taking the time to show you.

Yeah, I'm going to wait for my dad to give me the go ahead before I read the book again.

*sigh* I wish I could just rip out whatever makes those hormones and put it back in after I'm married. -_-

Laughs* Yeah... Well, it's definitely a struggle. I think it might comfort you to know though that even girls go through many similar struggles.

[xblack_x_rosesx]

Yeah, thats a toughy.
For me though, I think its just YOUR personal boundaries, and noone can tell you what that is.

It's what God is setting as boundaries for YOU, what your gut is telling you is too far and whats ok. Theres no way to know God's reasoning behind it, its just when you start to feel that what your doing is wrong, its wrong.

That's at least what I've come to understand it to be, what God has told me it is. I know my boundaries, I KNOW where I feel uncomfortable. I know more then ever now because I've gone so far past them, but I now know for certain whats a mistake and what isn't.

If that makes sense o.o 6_9 ;;

[KumaruRockz]

Pray.

[Paxdroca]

Yeah... I've lost my virginity to a girl... Felt like crap afterwards...
Really, can I be blamed? Yeah, I actually can, now that I think about it...
I agreed to it, so I'm heavy with sin...
Lust sucks. It really does. Now I must have the flesh of a girl 24/7. I feel like such a prick for it, but I can't help it! I must have sex, whatever the cost!
Can anyone hep my addiction?

[Robin Firedrake]

Erm... Man. I can't believe I'm posting this... Not to long ago I was surfing the web looking for a picture of this really cool dragon my friend said he had found on the internet. He told me what the picture was called and I did a clusty search for it. I clicked a link that looked like it might be it and instead it was a parody of that picture where it got changed into porn. After that I've been thinking too many lustful thoughts (Well ok one is too many but I mean more than is considered normal especially for someone my age.) and even started a bit of what you called "M" earlier on in the thread. I know I shouldn't be doing this but I need help with it. I especially feel terrible about it because of my age, and I haven't the slightest clue why I'm even posting it.
Maybe it's cause I fell more comfortable here (I do. A lot.) or maybe it's because I'm listening to fantasy music again. That's another thing I'm stuck on, those little tunes played with flutes and lutes or big orchestral scores. I listen to em a lot and they ALWAYS make me feel really happy and really sad at the same time as well as making me want to spill out everything. I still can't believe I'm doing this... Here goes... *Hits post reply button*

[m12specops]

Yeah... I also have a similar problem with lust as well... I know that if I keep looking at porn and doing M I'm eventually going to be consumed by sin, but I have a really hard time resisting temptations, and when I try to shut out the temptations, they always seem to get to me eventually. I'm now living my life in two halves, one half as the Christian that God wanted me to be, and the other half as a perverted and horrible hypocrite.
The only things that have helped over these 6 years are notes about controlling lust that my friends post on facebook and the story of Joseph when he was tempted (Genesis 39:1-9).
I've never been able to resist temptations for more than a month, and by the end of that month I was being tormented constantly by Satan. This week I'm going to try to make sure God gets to me first (through devos and music) before the temptations do, as some of you have suggested. I need your guys' prayer and I'll definitely be praying for all of you. I'm glad that I'm now part of a great Christian community where everyone can admit our flaws without embarrassment.

[xblack_x_rosesx]

Lust sucks. It really does. Now I must have the flesh of a girl 24/7. I feel like such a prick for it, but I can't help it! I must have sex, whatever the cost!
Can anyone hep my addiction?

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I'm the same way... can't... get rid of it actually.
I think I actually might have a hormone disorder or something, because I'm active... a LOT. Like, my friends consider themselves active, and they have sex or engage in sexual behavior about 25% the amount I do.
I don't know.
My boyfriend doesn't mind ;p ><

Frig.
Anyway, ya. I've been really stressed out lately, so I've been upping the amount of stuff I do with my bf to get off, because... well, it really does help with the stress.
I've also been really depressed lately it just feels good to BE with someone.
That and when I'm not with him I've started "m"ing, so.

I'm in a pickle thats for sure.
For some reason it doesn't FEEL wrong.
My gut doesn't tell me its wrong.
Weird, hu?

I think I just need to ween myself off it. Obvs cold turkey hasn't worked for me. I've tried SO many times. Can't do it.
So, ya...
I just need to... make a to-do list. And tattoo it on my forehead so I don't forget.

-sigh-

[SnEptUne]

I am pretty sure fornication is wrong. Although it may not damage anyone physically, there will be emotional implications. It makes it especially dangerous when one dumped the other. Many young women think their boyfriends will stay with them forever just because they mated, which is wishful thinking, they may as well think they will win a lottery.

I have heard countless stories of violence resulted from fornication, but it rarely happens if people make proper preparation to be engaged with each other permanently (i.e. marriage).

[xblack_x_rosesx]

I am pretty sure fornication is wrong. Although it may not damage anyone physically, there will be emotional implications. It makes it especially dangerous when one dumped the other. Many young women think their boyfriends will stay with them forever just because they mated, which is wishful thinking, they may as well think they will win a lottery.

I have heard countless stories of violence resulted from fornication, but it rarely happens if people make proper preparation to be engaged with each other permanently (i.e. marriage).

Well, I've been with the guy for like, 2 years, so ya :p Its not just a random fling or anything.


...

anyway.
I really have a problem.
I am a sinner.
And it is. Too. Much. Fun. To. Stop.

I don't know how else to say it.
I'm fully aware of my actions and my consiquences, but its like... I wanna push my limits. Like, sneaking out of the house when my parents ground me. That sort of thing. I know its wrong, but I do it anyway.

I don't know how to stop.
I've prayed for strength, I've tried so hard to stop, but its such an addiction that I can't just... stop. I can't explain it very well either without it sounding really really stupid.

I don't know.
I don't want to ask for help, I don't want to ask for prayers, because its my problem and noone elses, but... I think I'd like to ask for advice this time.

Advice. ya.
Preaching to me that "ITS WRONG DON'T DO IT GOD STATES CLEARLY THAT ITS WRONG" blah blah blah won't help me, but I'd like practical advice from someone whose been in this kind of situation. I guess.
I'm so confused. I mean, I M. and, cos I'm a gal, I can make myself come just by thinking about it, so I figure if I'm doing those things, I may as well be doing the physical stuff.
I know... I'm such a sinner, but... I get too depresssed, too stressed out, too full of self hatred, too abandoned if I stop.

...yes.

[MangArtist]

I'm sorry Rose. =\
I don't know what advice to give you.(cause I've never had to deal with his area, yet) And even though you don't want to ask for it, I will pray for you nonetheless. =]

"I'm in a pickle thats for sure.
For some reason it doesn't FEEL wrong.
My gut doesn't tell me its wrong.
Weird, hu?"
It might be that way since you've done it so much. =\ That's just what I'm thinking, anyway.

On a side note, if you guys could pray for me I would appreciate it. Lately, I just got out of looking for stuff everyday, but now I'm itching to do it again. -_-
*shoots hormones*

[Aleolus]

I know how you feel, Rose. I've been there since I reached my maturity. There was even a time where I would quite literally use every opportunity I had online to look up porn, even when I was in a public setting and there were other people quite literally right next to me. And through it all, it didn't feel wrong. I knew I shouldn't be doing it then and there, because I was GOING to get caught, but I couldn't stop myself. I have more control over myself now, but it's still a struggle.

[xblack_x_rosesx]

It might be that way since you've done it so much. =\ That's just what I'm thinking, anyway.

Well.... ya.
I don't know. I think its maybe that I'm just so keen to trust my gut instinct, because thats the only place I really feel God's presence. I've learned not to trust my head or my heart, because my heart is easily manipulated, and my head is a place where I can rationalize just about anything, so yeah.
I don't know, I just think maybe because I listen to my gut, where the Lord is prominant in me, Satan, or whatever, has taken advantage of that. So that even though my heart and head are telling me what I'm doing is wrong, my gut is still telling me its ok, and thats why I keep doing it.
I don't know. I hate to think that because that means that the only connection I've ever felt with God is gone. I'm so confused.

Anyway, thanks MangArtist for the prayers. I'll pray for your strength for sure.

I have more control over myself now, but it's still a struggle.

-sigh- Yeah. I don't even know what to do about it anymore, because its such a ... need. It's not even a wantwantwant it's just something I need to do. I don't feel like I have contorl over this, it FEELS like its supposed to be this way.


GREASDFUSDIFOADSF.
-punches self in ovaries-

[Phantom_Sorano]

Well, Firedrake, you asked me to respond to your comment...so these are my thoughts:

Lust is a common enemy for everyone, men and women alike. Unfortunately, men have a harder battle with simply because they are more visual than women. Don't hate yourself or beat yourself up about it. Just about everyone here has run in with one of those...pictures. If one of those thoughts or images come to your head, just say something like: God, I can't do this by myself, so help me with this, or "Satan, that trick won't work on me".
Saying things like that will empower you to overcome it. Will it go away the first time? I doubt it. But if you keep it up, and have a "I'll beat this problem with God" attitude, then you'll be alright.

[MangArtist]

Well.... ya.
I don't know. I think its maybe that I'm just so keen to trust my gut instinct, because thats the only place I really feel God's presence. I've learned not to trust my head or my heart, because my heart is easily manipulated, and my head is a place where I can rationalize just about anything, so yeah.
I don't know, I just think maybe because I listen to my gut, where the Lord is prominant in me, Satan, or whatever, has taken advantage of that. So that even though my heart and head are telling me what I'm doing is wrong, my gut is still telling me its ok, and thats why I keep doing it.
I don't know. I hate to think that because that means that the only connection I've ever felt with God is gone. I'm so confused.

Anyway, thanks MangArtist for the prayers. I'll pray for your strength for sure.

I'm not sure what to say... =\(not being a girl also limits my advice.) O_o
Well, you know what's the right thing to do, so..... follow that? I guess. This may seem like a dumb idea, but you could tell your boyfriend not to do anything in that area, even if you ask. I know it wouldn't help the "M"ing problem, but it might help the other one. Just an idea.
I'm sorry if none of this helped... -_-

You are very welcome, sis. =] And thank you.

-sigh- Yeah. I don't even know what to do about it anymore, because its such a ... need. It's not even a wantwantwant it's just something I need to do. I don't feel like I have contorl over this, it FEELS like its supposed to be this way.


GREASDFUSDIFOADSF.
-punches self in ovaries-

Yeah, I get that too. -_- And when I am able to pull myself away from the crap, it feels like I'm being torn apart somewhat... Which I don't really get cause looking at pictures doesn't really give me the "high" that it used to. Now it's videos. -_-

[Kunoichi]

Hi all,

Ya know..i have had M'ing problems in the past...and until just recently, been really really tied to it. Some of it was due to out of habit (like trying to fall asleep or what not) and part of it was because it gave me control over my body (even though I have a husband for sex...i withheld that from him because sex at times can be very hard emotionally and physically due to my abuse). HOwever, just because i'm married doesn't make M'ing less "cheating" in a way. Now adultery but I'm not being intimate with my hubby..just myself so its like cheating him out of that chance of intimacy.

Now, that being said..and I know there are all sorts of lust aside of sexual but sexual/physical at times can seem to be the most difficult to overcome...I have realized that when I started to really focus on one, healing my own abuse, two, restarting my active, growing and breathing relationship with God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit and three, understanding WHY i'm M'ing or fantasizing versus the fact that I'm doing it....it has helped me really to not have the hold that it did.

I think M'ing even though I don't necessarily think it is "right" or "wrong" just like I don't think sex is "right" or "wrong" ..it just is. We can make it "wrong" by the thoughts, by having sex promiscously, by just M'ing because we can and because we have that desire etc....then we make sex to be very cheapend. In some ways I do think that is what M'ing does..it cheapens the intimate part of the relationship you will have with your husband or wife...because you cheapen it. Does that make sense?

I've M'ed alot..for the last at least 10 years..alot of the times, several times a day. And now that I realize for me that this is what M'ing does, including looking at porn and what not...it has made it easier to say "no" and I don't even really think about it. Now I do have my weak area which is when I'm in physical pain due to my disease, in emotional pain, etc because of course it makes me physically feel good and its selfishessly my own because I'm not going to my husband for it. I know it seems wierd but I think m'ing in a way can be like away to escape, just like porn can. And yes, its an addiction too.

I guess I just wanted to share my thoughts as I have posted in a bit even though I'm learning to grow in God thru it all. Hope it makes sense or helps if even a little bit.

Love you all ^_^

Kelly aka Kunoichi

[MangArtist]

Hey guys... I know I've asked this a million times, but could you pray for me? I've gone way to far and saw things I never meant to see... It's got me shaking now... I'm seriously freaked out...

[Benn]

Hey guys... I know I've asked this a million times, but could you pray for me? I've gone way to far and saw things I never meant to see... It's got me shaking now... I'm seriously freaked out...

Have you tried getting an accountability partner? They can be really helpful.

It may sound silly but you can steal an idea from AA. When they're tempted to drink they call up their accountability partner and together they get through the temptation. It takes a good amount of humble pie and gumption to do make that call but it's worth it.

You'll be in my prayers... I've experienced similar feelings before. Hang in there and don't deprive yourself from Grace.

[MangArtist]

Have you tried getting an accountability partner? They can be really helpful.

It may sound silly but you can steal an idea from AA. When they're tempted to drink they call up their accountability partner and together they get through the temptation. It takes a good amount of humble pie and gumption to do make that call but it's worth it.

You'll be in my prayers... I've experienced similar feelings before. Hang in there and don't deprive yourself from Grace.

Yeah, I did, but I haven't talk to them in awhile. =\

Yeah, I'll try that.

Thanks, man. =]

So far I've stayed away from anything porn-ish. The stuff I saw scared me enough, I guess. -_-

[SnEptUne]

Hi Kunoichi, I agree completely that it is the thoughts and consequences that makes M'ing a sin. I don't know whether it would neccessarily cheapen a relationship because I have never been into one, but perhaps since you have a husband, you can talk to him to get it sorted out? It maybe an escape from physcial pain, but because we human are not perfect, we can constantly improve and seek guidance from each others. Perhaps, there are better ways to deal with pains?

Rose, I believe people can rationize everything not because their head cannot be trusted, but because they have not yet seen what they do not want to see. Our thoughts and value changes because we have experienced both hardship and happiness. I often talked of what I had rationized and was confused, and some people do indeed give me dirty looks, but I believe if it is the truth, it will withstand, if not, I will learn something new.

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