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ShiroiHikari (post: 1267334) wrote:Off-topic: The best anime cliche is when a bad guy becomes a good guy. It's been done a number of times but it is still cool every single time.
Cap'n Nick (post: 1267319) wrote:Lifestyles with no consequence. I'm thinking specifically of rail-thin gluttons, warriors with non-existent (or impossibly photogenic) scars, super-athletic hikikomori and fourteen-year-olds with more wisdom and life experience than every Dickens character combined. The worse offenders are annoying young slobs abusing themselves constantly yet somehow ending up a fashion plate. "My super-power: being a good-looking otaku." I'm all for escapism, but at least raise the bar a little.
Sapphi (post: 1267336) wrote:Haha, I agree. ^_^
But, hmm, worst cliche... well, the falling on top of each other like Shao Feng-Li said is pretty annoying because it's usually done in the same way every time, and the falling usually seems pretty forced. XD But I'd say the random, pointless panty shots take the cake for this one. Or any fanservice where someone's body is right up in the camera. I really don't like being forced to look at that. XD
Also, characters with Japanese names who are UBER-WHITE with blond hair and bright blue eyes. Usagi Tsukino and Naruto Uzumaki, I'm looking at you. Is it too much to ask that the Japanese draw Japanese people that look like Japanese people?
minakichan (post: 1267362) wrote:Read <a href="http://www.matt-thorn.com/mangagaku/faceoftheother.html">Face of the Other</a> by manga scholar Matt Thorn. People are under the assumption that Japanese people draw anime characters with strange coloring because they want to look more Caucasian or they even hate their faces. It's no more true that assuming that American cartoonists want to be furries or have caricatured body proportions. If you draw a happy face with an unfilled circle, two dots, and a curve, it is not white, and shading it in does not make it black.
At the very least, no, Japanese people are not Western-worshippers who are ashamed to be Asian. Absolutely not.
Raiden no Kishi wrote:I want to see the main protagonist work for their results. I want to see them defeated, having to go and work to overcome a foe. I want to see them barely eke out victories. I want to see them win at great cost.
This "I can do it 'cause I'm the hero" crap has got to go.
Nette wrote:And hey, I like those speeches they give before attacking!
Nate (post: 1267472) wrote:You're talking about Rock Lee there. Unfortunately he's brushed to the side for the "Super-Saiyan clone" stuff. Rock Lee is like the Krillin of Naruto, which is why he's so awesome.
Actually I kind of like that, if the "I can do it because I'm the hero" stuff went, the a lot of manga would end with the bad guy winning. And that's not very satisfying.
Maybe I'm weird. All I know is when I hear Sousuke on Go-Onger yelling that the fires of justice burn in his heart after he's gotten the smack-down from a Bankijyu, and he stands up after getting his butt kicked and proceeds to whup the tar out of it, I cheer. Because it's awesome.
And yeah I am tired of harem anime too. It's just so formulaic. At least Tenchi Muyo tried (and succeeded IMO) to make it different.
Also, "main character dies at end of series" anime make me angry. It was cool in Cowboy Bebop. It was cool in Magic Knight Rayearth (well okay that wasn't the MAIN character but still). It is not cool anymore.
I don't see how anyone can hate those honestly. They're rad. It would just be boring if the good guys showed up and just immediately started fighting.
Besides this isn't even really an anime cliche as they do it in American cartoons and comics too. Did anyone complain about Darkwing Duck saying "I am the terror that flaps in the night!" every time he fought a bad guy? Did people complain about Wolverine saying "I'm the best there is at what I do, bub!" when he faced off against an opponent?
Anyway how many long-winded speeches did Batman and the Joker go through in Dark Knight? There was more inane chatter between those two in that movie than in a 26 episode anime series.
Purplefire (post: 1267463) wrote:But, but, the hero must flail about their arms or they lose track of their thoughts!!
Agreed. It's also irritating when half or the entire cast dies in the end.Nate (post: 1267472) wrote:Also, "main character dies at end of series" anime make me angry. It was cool in Cowboy Bebop. It was cool in Magic Knight Rayearth (well okay that wasn't the MAIN character but still). It is not cool anymore.
GeneD (post: 1267543) wrote:Agreed. It's also irritating when half or the entire cast dies in the end.
The falling-thing is very true. Anime characters can be very clumsy.
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