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How ADV's doing and interview with John Ledford

Postby Roy Mustang » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:56 pm

Interview with John Ledford, Part One

ICv2 wrote:ICv2 recently caught up with John Ledford, CEO of A.D. Vision to talk about the market, ADV’]How did ADV come through Hurricane Ike--are the people and the business OK?[/I]

We came through OK, thank goodness. The most important thing is that no one was hurt, no one lost their home. A few of our people lost power for a week or so, but everyone came through all right.

Our business was down from the Thursday before Ike hit until two Mondays later. Fortunately the facility didn’t take any lasting damage. Our studios, our servers, and our offices came through unscathed.

Pulling back a bit, how is ADV doing as a company (it’s obviously been a tough year, and a lot of people are wondering if you’re going to survive going forward)?


Well I can certainly understand their curiosity. It’s been a tough time, no doubt. Everyone’s been working extremely hard to get our business refocused, and we’re already seeing positive results.

We understand you have some new anime to announce?

We do! We’re working with a new partner, Sentai Filmworks, which just acquired a number of anime titles. ADV is providing localization and some distribution services for Sentai.

Some of what Sentai’s brought us will be familiar to fans. Mahoromatic and Mahoromatic: Something More Beautiful had been part of Geneon’s catalog, as was Tsukihime. Pet Shop of Horrors was first released years ago by Urban Vision. These are all great catalog titles that we’re going to help Sentai bring back to store shelves, beginning with a Mahoromatic collection in January.

We’re also working with Sentai on a brand new series, Clannad. It’s a 24 episode teen comedy that did really well for TBS [the Japanese TV network]. North American fans have been waiting a long time for this. Sentai’s got the license, and ADV will bring out the first of six DVDs next April.

We’ll have more announcements in coming weeks, both from Sentai and from Switchblade.

Has ADV been able to attract any new capital since the breakup with Sojitz?

In the short term, the breakup with Sojitz forced us to reinvent our business. We’ve reached out to new partners and focused on our core strengths, localization and distribution. Our arrangement with Sentai Filmworks is an example of this. There are others we’ll be announcing in the weeks to come. It hasn’t been easy, but we’ve reached an equilibrium that works and is sustainable.

There are a lot of stakeholders out there rooting for ADV, both here and in Japan. They realize that you need more than one or two distributors to maintain a healthy market, where the full range of anime gets its shot at retail. That’s brought some very creative thinking from the business side, some new kinds of licensing arrangements. I think eventually it will become necessary for ADV to scale back up. When that happens, the capital will be there.

How many employees does ADV have vs. a year ago, and do you feel like you’ve got the company rightsized for 2009?

Full time we’re at about 30 employees, with a smaller number of contract employees working with us on a regular if reduced basis. That’s not counting voice actors and translators, of course.

Anime is a strange business. You need a lot of specialized talent to make it work, and you need people who know the landscape. I don’t just mean translation or localization, but everything on down the line from licensing to production to sales and distribution. You can’t just walk into an anime production and expect to get it to market (at least not if you want to do it profitably).

My challenge over the past year has been to streamline ADV without hurting any of our core competencies. I think we’re there. What’s more we’re a lot more nimble and scalable than we were before. Ramping up will not be a problem when the time is right.

How does that compare to a year ago?

A lot less, that’s for sure!

What’s your assessment of the current North American market for anime, both in general and for DVDs?

It’s the same story: Anime is popular, more fans than ever are watching, and DVD sales are in the doldrums. So there’s an opportunity but also a very grave challenge.

The internet has changed everything of course. Whether you’re talking piracy or legitimate pipelines, the Internet has multiplied the worldwide audience for anime many, many times over. And it’s only growing. There are some really interesting legitimate platforms for watching anime online taking shape. I’m happy with the overall direction on that front.

The problem is that the money generated by legitimate anime streaming and download doesn’t come anywhere close to replacing lost DVD sales. That’s true for pretty much everyone in entertainment, but it’s particularly true for anime.

DVDs turned us from a nation of media “viewers” into “owners.” It’s those purchases that fueled today’s anime market, because they meant we could afford to license a broad range of titles--not just the very top TV-driven franchises. Now the internet is pushing anime fans in the opposite direction, and the consumer needs a compelling reason to buy.

Big titles still sell well. Appleseed: Ex Machina is a great recent example. It’s a big action spectacle that fans don’t just want to watch once. They want to own it. Same with any Final Fantasy release or Miyazaki film. These are anime events, and everyone benefits when we get one, because they drive fans to the store.

At the other end of the spectrum are niche titles. Or, since anime is a niche, maybe they should be called ‘super-niche’ titles. We can make money with these because the up-front licensing cost is low, and there’s a core base of fandom big enough to support them. With these titles our profit may come from ‘long tail’ sales after a sku has hit store shelves. But these super-niche titles are reliable, and you can make a good business out of them.

Where things get tricky is in between the big hits and the smaller niche titles. Series that are strong but may not be world-beaters. Viewership is larger than ever, thanks to the Internet, but fans just aren’t buying DVDs like they used to. And when the costs stay the same, you’ve got a lot of solid, quality productions that end up running in the red.

That’s why right now the best business to be in are the hits and the ‘super-niche’ titles. Anything in between can kill you.


Are you seeing any impact of the recent credit crisis on sales?


Not yet. I’m not sure we will. It all depends on how things play out.

Like any home media, anime DVD sales are fairly recession proof. A downturn might keep you from going on vacation, but that’s all the more reason to pick up the boxset you’ve been thinking of for the last few weeks.



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Postby Roy Mustang » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:58 pm

The rest of part one interview with John Ledford


[quote="ICv2"]ADV has now announced two new imprints--Sentai and Switchblade. Why are you using these new imprints, and how will the releases sold under those imprints differ from those sold under the ADV brand?

Well as I explained Sentai Filmworks is a separate company, not an imprint. The same is true for Switchblade Pictures, which specializes in live action films of the “Asian shockâ€
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Postby termyt » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:31 am

Interesting. Thanks Roy
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Postby EricTheFred » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:38 am

I would have liked to see some mention of their manga business. It has suffered serious slowdowns over the last year, and it is frustrating to see no mention made at all about it.
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Postby termyt » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:41 am

More than slow downs, I think it's stopped completely. I generally see release dates about two months in advance and I have not seen anything for ADV in quite some time. (Not that I specifically look for ADV releases, so I may just be missing them).
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Postby Roy Mustang » Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:08 pm

Interview with John Ledford, Part Two

Interview with John Ledford, Part Two
Dubbing, Pricing, Catalogue, Anime Netework, Blu-ray, the Future



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With fewer options for anime distribution in the U.S., what’s the licensing environment in Japan?

Obviously the business is in flux, but there are plenty of reasons for optimism. Some big projects are coming down the pike, which are going to energize the core fanbase as well as the casual fan. Mainstream hits are good for everybody, because they bring people back to the DVD aisles.

I think there’s also a growing awareness that now more than ever anime is an international business. There’s a much more forward-looking attitude towards digital distribution, and that is positive for cutting down on piracy. Also I think everyone is working to shorten the gap between the Japanese and foreign release of new material, whether you’re talking TV series or film-length features.

It’s an exciting time. There are some big tent pole projects taking shape right now, and not a moment too soon.

What is ADV’s subbed vs. dubbed strategy going forward, for all three brands (ADV, Sentai, Switchblade)--will ADV still be dubbing all titles into English, or will you also produce some subtitled only releases?

Well so far everything from Switchblade Pictures is subtitled-only. These are live action titles targeted for a niche audience that really isn’t looking for English dialogue.

The previously-issued series we’re distributing for Sentai will all carry their original English dubs. Amusement Park Media is already contracted with Sentai to provide an English track for the new Clannad, and so far that’s the case with all the other new titles coming down the pike. That said it’s always possible that we could issue sub-only anime, especially for super niche titles.

We’re seeing a lot of variation in the retail price per episode among ADV releases, both between different titles and on the same title over time (some titles are being released in as many as three different packages over time). Can you talk about your pricing and packaging strategy going forward, both on ADV and Sentai releases?

First let me say that Sentai Filmworks sets its own prices and ADV has to work within the parameters we are given. We have an obligation to generate the most revenue possible. for our licensors and theirs. At the same time we’re very sensitive to conditions at retail, and we want to price-competitive. There’s no set formula, but I will say that for older properties and even classics the main challenge is just keeping the catalog on store shelves.

Today’s retail environment is pretty ruthless. Shelf space is at a premium, and today’s computer systems enable retailers to manage their inventory like never before. That’s put pressure on the shelf life of all DVDs, but especially catalog titles. To keep classics in the stores, we have to be more creative than ever with new editions, new configurations, and -- when warranted -- new pricing.

How many anime properties does ADV have NA rights for, how many of them are in print, and what are your plans going forward for properties that are currently out of print?

As you know, the titles we licensed during our time with Sojitz are all gone. That’s basically a year worth of output. The rest of ADV’s catalog remains intact. I don’t have the exact numbers handy but you’re talking hundreds of properties and many thousands of hours of content.

Will ADV be distributing its releases on DTO sites?

Anime Network handles all our digital distribution, and you’re going to be hearing a lot from them in coming weeks.

What’s your assessment of the state of anime on American TV (in the wake of CN’s cutbacks), and its impact on the category?

It’s an interesting story. Clearly anime is here to stay. It’s still a bedrock for tween programming, and more TV outlets than ever are starting (or restarting) anime programming blocs for teens and adults. So even with the changes at Cartoon Network, I think the overall picture is healthy.

For our own part, Anime Network is a very strong player in the VOD space. Viewership is strong, and we’re making money.

I was hoping to get to the future of Anime Network? Will your new acquisitions be shown on it?


It’s strange. Since we decided to focus on exclusively on video on demand, Anime Network’s overall numbers have gone up! That’s a reflection of the steady growth in VOD, but it also attests to the underlying strength of anime’s fanbase. We talk a lot about the internet in terms of teens and tweens and digital delivery, but for a lot of older fans the convenience of VOD can’t be beat. As long as we make it easy and convenient, people will pay for anime. Not just core fans either, but casual fans who might have left the hobby. Anime Network On Demand is a real success for that reason.

At least some if not all of the new content we’re handling for DVD will also be made available on Anime Network. The actual programming decisions are made at the network level on a title by title basis.


What’s the role of Blu-ray in ADV’s plans?


Blu-ray is already an important part of the landscape, and inevitably it will be dominant. The question is simply one of “when.â€
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