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Raiden no Kishi (post: 1258079) wrote:It's a million-way tie between all their contrived direct-to-video sequels (Cinderella THREE. THREE.)
Disney is dead to me.
.rai//
K. Ayato (post: 1258101) wrote:My vote goes to Old Yeller. I know, I know, it's not animated. But it IS still Disney.
Puguni (post: 1258085) wrote:It was good for a laugh. Frankly, I've seen worse. Disney is only truly dead if they stop coming up with new material and rely solely on sequels.
Anyway, keeping on topic, I thought Pinocchio was sad in the end, sort of.
I think it would be a mistake to ignore the fun and kid-friendly element of Disney movies, but this is not the only thing going on in them. Frankly, Disney is a company of fairy tales, and like most fairy tales, Disney's films contain certain tragic themes like lost or orphaned children. For me, it is the films that most deeply explore the theme of lost children that make me feel the saddest and loneliest, and in this category I would list Pinocchio, Alice In Wonderland, and The Rescuers. Still, I think the tragic element of Disney movies gives kids a cathartic outlet for some of childhood's deepest anxieties (i.e. "What would happen to me if mommy and daddy died or went away forever?"), so I think it's good for them in the long run.rocklobster (post: 1258065) wrote:Everyone always thinks Disney movies are fun, charming, and most of all--kid-friendly. *grabs bullhorn* BALONEY!!! Disney looves to torture children with some of the saddest movies ever made. And this is a company famous for entertaining kids! So what do you think is the saddest Disney cartoon ever made? My vote is a two-way tie between Bambi and The Lion King.
Raiden no Kishi (post: 1258079) wrote:It's a million-way tie between all their contrived direct-to-video sequels (Cinderella THREE. THREE.)
Disney is dead to me.
.rai//
While it is true that, to quote the Punk band The Subhumans, "Mickey Mouse is Dead", the same cannot be truthfully said of Disney. Admittedly, the long slump of half-baked straight-to-video animated sequels was a serious all-time low for the company. Thankfully, that trend seems to have sharply declined now, and in my personal opinion (and also that of my aunt, who has worked for Disney World since before I was born), the company is becoming much much cooler in recent years than it has been in decades. On the computer generated front, the company's reacquisition of Pixar has produced the positively brilliant and successful WALL-E, which is serious coupe by anyone's standards. If there's anything we've learned from Pixar's history since the release of Toy Story, it's that the studio can be consistently counted on to release clever, intelligent, memorable, and culturally relevant films appreciated by the widest possible audience. With the release of Chicken Little and Meet The Robinsons, Disney's own in-house computer-generated studio shows increasing signs of becoming a force in their own right. Closer to home for the CAA, Disney continues to hold the rights to Hayao Miyazaki's films, and has produced them with subs and dubs of remarkable quality. While (aside from brief flashes of brilliance) Disney has failed to get viewers to believe in and empathize with animated films for the past decade or so, the company has effectively coped with this by filming live action fairy tales in which worlds of fantasy collide with reality, leading to interesting insights into both worlds. This trend has lately produced films like Enchanted, The Chronicles of Narnia series, and Bridge to Terabithia, each of which I've found to be remarkably enjoyable. More promising still, word is Disney has contracted Tim Burton to direct a live action remake of Alice in Wonderland and a 3D stop-motion remake of Frankenweenie (ironically the film that got Burton fired from Disney very early in his career). Even the new old-school Disney animated project The Frog Prince looks promising with a good balance of charm, magic, and wit. And on the more personal level, my aunt reports that Disney World theme park has vastly improved over the last couple of years, and as she has always been very honest to us about her employer (even on bits that don't make very good public relations), I am inclined to believe her. Taken all together, then, Disney shows a lot of potential right now in spite of brief lapses in judgment like releasing another "Hey, what if dogs know a lot more than we think they know?" movie.Raiden no Kishi wrote:Oh, I've seen their new material. Beverly Hills freakin' Chihuahua. That's fine cinema right there. If it isn't dead, it's a rotting zombie.
Double? XDGhostontheNet (post: 1258245) wrote:Edit: Oh brother, leave it to a connection lapse to inadvertently lead to a double post. Please delete this.
Yes, double. In this case a complete carbon copy of my comments about why I think the company shows a lot of promise right now. Maybe it's a generation gap thing (with the end of your own fanhood notably falling when you were about 18), but being a young man of a much different generation, I think Disney has done a very good job once they figured out that we of generation Y and Z have a much different outlook on things. Personally, I think Mary Poppins and Bedknobs and Broomsticks were brilliant, and in their own way, the films I listed recapture the essence of what made those two very special. While we must agree to disagree on such matters, it is good that we are agreed on the utility of the tragic element for very similar reasons.termyt (post: 1258284) wrote:Double? XD
I'm proud of Disney for incorporating these elements into their movies. I've not been a Disney fan since Beauty and the Beast and their live action movies have been mostly dreadful since, well, Mary Poppins I guess? But there's no moral to a story that is nothing but happy.
Dumbo is high on the list, though, for me. Probably the saddest IMO.
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