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Postby SnEptUne » Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:52 pm

Have anyone tried to reduce consumption of fatty product as I have suggested? As long as you are being careful with your diet, it shouldn't pose any problem.
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Postby Aleolus » Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:15 am

SnEptUne (post: 1189807) wrote:Have anyone tried to reduce consumption of fatty product as I have suggested? As long as you are being careful with your diet, it shouldn't pose any problem.


... 0_o I don't think our diets have any effect on whether we're feeling lustful and/or adulterous, Sn. Or did you mean metaphorically, feeding our sex drives with high-sex content, getting it so big and strong we can't beat it?
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Postby TriezGamer » Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:13 am

While I'm not certian about fatty products specifically, you'd be amazed what a change in diet can do to people.

If I were to hazard a guess, I'd wager that for some people sticking to a healthier diet might make them feel better about themselves -- which can help for some people, as for some (like myself) masturbation is sometimes a response to feeling sorry for myself about something.
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Postby Okami » Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:44 am

Ahh...they say once a person indulges themselves, they can't stop 'till they've had three (Like, um, cookies, for example....thinking of my grandparents >.>;; )
Thus, today has become my third day at 0.

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Postby Kunoichi » Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:21 am

Day 2 For M, Day 6 For The Other.

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Praise God! He is defintely speaking into my life. Having some trouble at work but well I know God will work things out.
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Postby Sheenar » Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:30 am

Okami,
God's grace is sufficient for you and His power is made perfect in your weakness.
Pick yourself back up and keep fighting. The important thing is to keep fighting and not give up.
Hang in there, friend. I will keep praying for you.

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Postby SnEptUne » Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:43 pm

Aleolus (post: 1189867) wrote:... 0_o I don't think our diets have any effect on whether we're feeling lustful and/or adulterous, Sn. Or did you mean metaphorically, feeding our sex drives with high-sex content, getting it so big and strong we can't beat it?


Actually, our diet have every effect on our mental state. Physical responses will affect our emotions, just like emotion can affect us physically. Have you heard of the research on monkey that feeding them ice cream and potato chips makes them more "sexually mature" than the control group? Having high fat diet tells our body that foods are pentiful and have more than enough reserve to reproduce.

Being clean is important too. There are behaviour changing pathogen, such as Toxoplasmosis, that are claimed to cause "antisocial attitudes in men and promiscuity in women". It may not be as apparent in human, but it is another case of how our physical body can affect our mental state.
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Postby Blitzkrieg1701 » Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:09 pm

I stumbled pretty bad again last night, but something interesting has been happening all the same. All day yesterday, and actually, all week, several things I had been praying about for a while started to present themselves (I won't go into the details here, they're not the issue). I really felt the Lord convicting me to deal with them right away, but since I knew none of them HAD to be delt with immediately, I decided to put it off for a bit and kick back for the weekend. Well, no sooner would I kick back than temptation would start knocking me around and I'd cave in. So, this morning I'm really frusterated with myself, wondering why I can't this better than I am, and come across a verse I'm sure has been quoted here many, many times:

No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it.
1 Corinthians 10:13


I don't know about you, but it's easy for me to read that verse and imagine God swooping down and snatching us from the jaws of temptation by injecting us with a sudden blast of spiritualness. I'm sure He does that sometimes, but it dawned on me that I was ignoring the other things that promise means. God doesn't have to wait until the moment of temptation to deliver us, He can just as easilly (in fact, more easilly) provide the escape well before we actually fall into the trap.

Looking back at my last couple of days, I realize that I had completely missed the point of what God was doing by presenting me with the things I had been putting off. In and of themselves, they really weren't all that important and I don't think doing them sooner than latter really wouldn have made much of a difference in the big picture. But the things themselves were only part of what was really going on. God knew that I was going to be confronted with temptations that I would not have the strength to overcome on my own, that's why He offered me the escape of these little things to do. If I'd been willing to submit myself to His calling over what I was felt like doing in the little things, I would have approached the temptation with a very different mindset than the lazy, self-serving one I ended up having. It's hard to call on God some something after spending the whole day saying "No" to Him.

This has already taking up way more space than I expected, so I'll try to wrap this up quick. I'd like to challenge everyone to think about something: what sort of ways might God be trying to minister to you but you've managed to not even notice? Instead of focusing on what you shouldn't be doing or need to stop, try asking how God could use even the little decisions or actions you deal with to prepare or minister to you. You might be surprised at how different things look in that light.
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Postby Okami » Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:25 pm

I'm actually coming to a point where I believe I haven't made Jesus my everything. No trust. Little hope. Very little faith. Much doubt. With the help of some friends, I've been doing a lot of digging. I need to start over and begin again. Come crawling in true humility and repentance.

I'm currently reading "Captivating" by Stasi and John Eldredge and it's really changed a lot of my views of femininity, beauty, and the brokeness I've felt. (Amazing book, I recommend it to all the ladies here ;)) I came to a point this morning where they were talking of clitoridectomy, or simply, female circumcision. I nearly broke down in class. (Not paying attention to the lecture :P) I can't even begin to imagine.....

And it was in that absolute disgust that I realised that I still haven't given this over to Him. Or much of my life. And it was in their speech of all these different terrible acts against women that I realised that I can't heal while being so closed up. He asks us to open up to him. He asks our permission before healing.

Just like in Mark 10-
51"What do you want me to do for you?" Jesus asked him.
The blind man said, "Rabbi, I want to see."

52"Go," said Jesus, "your faith has healed you." Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus along the road.


He asks. We need to respond, "Yes."
Well, I'm going to see what He does for this next week.
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Postby SP1 » Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:15 pm

I agree. If you're going to remove a bunch of stuff out of your life, as everyone on this thread is trying to do, you are going to have to put something in its place. Otherwise it creeps back in. Working on your foundation is very important. The trust and faith in God builds that link and lets you be "filled up," as it were, with the Spirit and, therefore, makes resisting further temptation more successful.

So, taking a break from counting "how many days" to make sure your relationship is strengthened is not a weakness in itself. Rather, it is recognizing that you are weak and need help.
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Postby Aleolus » Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:57 pm

Heh, it's kinda funny. I am great at comforting people, and encouraging and supporting them, but I'm horrid at asking for help for myself.

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Postby SnEptUne » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:30 am

Aleolus (post: 1190090) wrote:Who should the healer turn to when he falls ill?
The healer himself or another healer?

Aleolus (post: 1190090) wrote:To whom can the adviser turn to for advice?
The spirit and the people?

Aleolus (post: 1190090) wrote:Who then shall comfort the comforter, and encourage the encourager?
Likewise, themself, another comforter/encourager, the holy spirit, or the other people :p
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Postby Blitzkrieg1701 » Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:04 pm

Ugh. Same old same old for me, guys. Well, no, it's never really the same, but I wish it'd hurry up and get different.

Aleolus (post: 1190090) wrote:Heh, it's kinda funny. I am great at comforting people, and encouraging and supporting them, but I'm horrid at asking for help for myself.


I know what you mean. Funny how that works, isn't it?
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Postby Kunoichi » Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:10 am

sigh* Okay need some major prayer. ..

It seems M is harder for me now then it ever has been. I can't seem to stop myself..I need some prayer with this guys. It has become such a natural and habitual thing that I do it every day, sometimes more...ugh!

My boyfriend who is much worse at this than me, hasn't since we both decided to stop. *shakes head* I feel disgusted with myself but I don't know how to stop.
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Postby Aleolus » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:37 am

Hey, Kunoichi, at least you have someone physically there for the here-and-now support you need. Not all of us have that, you should count your blessings.
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Postby Kunoichi » Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:34 pm

I wasn't trying to say that it is so much harder for me, Aleolus. And I defintely count my blessings to have him there. At the same rate, should I feel that i'm being a complainer because I don't have to as bad as someone else? Then I should not put anything up here because there are always worse situations to be in.
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Postby Aleolus » Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:59 pm

I wasn't trying to put you down at all, or imply that you shouldn't come on here and ask for help, I was simply reiterating that there are worse situations you could be in. I expect you have a lot of big issues, that I have no problems with. My big issue is with pornography and the masturbation associated with it. I don't know whether you have issues with porn or not, but I also know (from what you have already said) that you have issues with faithfulness and extra- or pre-marital sex, something I have no trouble with. I'm not trying to say either of us have it worse, we simply have problems in different areas.
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Postby Kunoichi » Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:17 pm

I apologize and seek forgiveness if I acted rashly.

For me, this is a hard sin for me to overcome. I know that if I can master this sin then maybe the other "bigger" sins will become easier.
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Postby Blitzkrieg1701 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:37 pm

Well, the past couple of days were pretty good, but last night and today have been extremely rocky.

Father, I lift us every one of us as we continue to struggle with these habits and ways of thinking that we've allowed to become so deeply burned into our lives. Lord, we believe that You are bigger than this struggle, and and that You will bring us victory over it. But even still, when faced with the difficulty of giving up something so familiar and the frustration of how long it can take to unlearn the sins we've learned, it's so easy to give in to despair. So please, Lord, give us the strength to trust You and obey You when we feel ready to give up. After all, we know it's not our strength that overcomes anything in the first place.
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Postby Kunoichi » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:03 pm

sigh* fell again..however, now I am more confused as ever. He told me he loved me tonight. I know he meant it because that is hard for him to do. And now, I am not sure if I love my boyfriend in the sense of staying with him but I care deeply for him as well.

Prayer for guidance and direction.

Side Note: I know a lot of you could tell me what I'm doing is wrong....maybe part of me understands that. My soul is willing, my flesh is so weak. Please, I do not want advice this time (Not to sound harsh, can't express emotion into my text) but I'm really hurting, I'm really confused and I feel really upset. I...I'm not sure I even know what LOVE is anymore. I know the Love God has for me, but I mean in terms of a man and woman relationship. ....this is rambling and I'm sure to regret this is the morning but please pray.
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Postby Aleolus » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:25 pm

Kunoichi (post: 1191478) wrote:sigh* fell again..however, now I am more confused as ever. He told me he loved me tonight. I know he meant it because that is hard for him to do. And now, I am not sure if I love my boyfriend in the sense of staying with him but I care deeply for him as well.

Prayer for guidance and direction.

Side Note: I know a lot of you could tell me what I'm doing is wrong....maybe part of me understands that. My soul is willing, my flesh is so weak. Please, I do not want advice this time (Not to sound harsh, can't express emotion into my text) but I'm really hurting, I'm really confused and I feel really upset. I...I'm not sure I even know what LOVE is anymore. I know the Love God has for me, but I mean in terms of a man and woman relationship. ....this is rambling and I'm sure to regret this is the morning but please pray.


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Postby Kunoichi » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:45 am

Aleolus,

believe it or not i'm crying right now...not because of shame or sadness but simply from the love you have just showed me....I can't tell you how much that means..to just know someone really is there..really cares...

Well i made a decision about my living situation, cuz i live with my friend whom i keep being unfaithful with..i'm going to move out completely on my own. I was going to move out with my boyfriend but I figure that this will stop the temptation more. My boyfriend and I have decided to abstain from anything sexual and i think me living alone will help me to get my head on straighter.

I do seek forgiveness from God for my sin. I'm so afraid, even though I know its not true, one day God is just going to give up on me. I keep messing up and messing up with this and I do not want to be one of the people who said "Lord we casted out demons in your name, etc etc." and the Lord said to them, "Go away I have never known you." That verse literally terrifies me. I mean i have never even casted out a demon or done anything spectacular and they got sent away, where does that leave me??
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Postby Aleolus » Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:46 am

Kunoichi (post: 1191547) wrote:Aleolus,

believe it or not i'm crying right now...not because of shame or sadness but simply from the love you have just showed me....I can't tell you how much that means..to just know someone really is there..really cares...

Well i made a decision about my living situation, cuz i live with my friend whom i keep being unfaithful with..i'm going to move out completely on my own. I was going to move out with my boyfriend but I figure that this will stop the temptation more. My boyfriend and I have decided to abstain from anything sexual and i think me living alone will help me to get my head on straighter.

I do seek forgiveness from God for my sin. I'm so afraid, even though I know its not true, one day God is just going to give up on me. I keep messing up and messing up with this and I do not want to be one of the people who said "Lord we casted out demons in your name, etc etc." and the Lord said to them, "Go away I have never known you." That verse literally terrifies me. I mean i have never even casted out a demon or done anything spectacular and they got sent away, where does that leave me??


OK, I won't tell you to do or not do anything in particular, but I do think I should give you this warning. Moving out from where you are staying currently is your decision, you're the only one who can choose to go or stay. However, moving in with your boyfriend will most likely only result in more tempation to have sexual relations of various sorts with him. It very well may help with keeping you from being tempted with regards to other people, but it will almost certainly be a constant temptation with him. I speak this only as a cautious warning, since I know my own limits, and I know that that would be well beyond them. However, I don't know your limits, so it might be OK for you.
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Postby kat-su-chan » Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:49 am

Kunoichi, stumbling and stumbling it happens to us all. As long as you don't turn away from God and in your heart you truly strive for Him he will never turn his back. Take a look at Romans 8:38 and 39. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[a] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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I think you made a very wise choice, about deciding to move out and not living with your boyfriend. Living with another girl could work too probably...if you ever have money issues (since living on your own is more expensive).
On that note I've made a friend who's going to the same school as I am (probaly going to-havent decided yet) next year who is a boy. We say we're going to rent a place together (only a communal kitchen or something dont worry folks) except that now I have the biggest crush on him. So I am now feeling as though that can't possibly happen, as it's far too much of a temptation -- especially considering im two hours away and still lusting after him, let alone being in the same house. I can't see it leading anywhere good.
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Postby Kunoichi » Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:18 am

I'm actually NOT moving in with my boyfriend Aleolus ^_^

Hard decision to do financially and emtionally. Please pray for courage and strength cuz I do not know how I am going to afford it
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Postby Sheenar » Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:01 pm

Hang in there, Kun. God is with you. He will meet your needs. Just do what you feel He is calling you to do. We are here for you.
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Postby Aleolus » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:27 am

Wow, this thread's been really quiet for a few days. I don't know if that's a good thing or not, but keep up hope, and keep getting back up!
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Postby Okami » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:27 pm

I've been grounded for the past week and a half concerning something I posted on myspace....um....not gonna go there.


Anyways. I went a week. A full week. Without masturbating.
Then last night, well...Mom and my stepdad had a big argumentative-type fight thing with me about how irresponsible I am, 'cause I can't cook and I can hardly drive and on and on and on, then they were making fun of it and stuff.

I ended up cussing my mom out, giving her the finger, throwing a book at her, all before storming out of the room. I'm never like that...I was so angry, so upset.

I almost attempted suicide. I had a bottle of pills in my hand, and I was going to OD. I ended up throwing them across the room in my rage...

I took out a pencil and cut on my left wrist. I think there's about ten lines in all...they didn't bleed, but dang....I regret it.

Andways, in the midst of all that stress, after all of it, I ended up M'ing simply from all that pent up hormonal stress, anxiety, etcetc. Had I had a computer, I probably would have fallen to porn, too...

So here I am. Day zero. Per usual...
I'm at a standstill.
~*~ Blessed to be Ryosuke's wife!
"We will be her church, the body of Christ coming alive to
meet her needs, to write love on her arms." ~ Jamie Tworkowski
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Postby Kunoichi » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:26 pm

awwwwwwwwww OKami

*hugs

"Be slow to speak," its amazing how that little peace in our mouth gets us into so much trouble.


Please do not beat yourself up too much. You can only learn and I know that it is hard. But do not be discouraged. You have already gotten stronger, that is very apparent. Will pray for you!

****

Well guys, broke up with my boyfriend. It hurt....alot. I think I'm having trouble really knowing what love is so I need to figure that out. Please pray for me!
I am on the forefront of battle against the demons of earth. All Praise and Glory be given to God Forever and Ever!


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Postby Themanofchrist » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:34 pm

Update:Day 0 again

Hey guys if you had parents who quit smoking quickly, you have an idea of what its like for me and my recurring sin
I am the bone of my sword
Steel is my body and fire is my blood
I have created over a thousand blades
Unknown to death
Nor known to life
Have withstood pain to create many weapons
Yet these hands shall never hold anything
So, as I pray, "Unlimited Blade Works"
Note: The chant for Unlimited Blade Works (UBW)
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