Minutes Till Midnight

[Destroyer2000]

Anyone else as hyped as I am for this? I can't wait for May 15. This is going to be an AWESOME CD. For those who don't know, it's Linkin Park's new album, their first since Meteora, if I remember correctly.

[Tommy]

Nope, not any near near as hyped.
Looks like a solid album, but I don't plan on buying them.

And don't think I just came in here to bash them.
I just bought The Hybrid Theory and Meteora over the weekend and they are nice CDs.

I'm just not that excited.
I'm too stoked for BTA's "The Physics of Fire."
Now THAT's gonna be an AWESOME CD.

[Destroyer2000]

I've never even heard of BTA.

[Zilch]

I'm interested, but not really stoked. Linkin Park has been kind of a passing interest to me over the years, so I'm wondering how this is going to come together.

[Kkun]

I'm gonna buy it. I might not like it, but I'm gonna buy it.

[Ichigo_89]

Nope, not any near near as hyped.
Looks like a solid album, but I don't plan on buying them.

And don't think I just came in here to bash them.
I just bought The Hybrid Theory and Meteora over the weekend and they are nice CDs.

I'm just not that excited.
I'm too stoked for BTA's "The Physics of Fire."
Now THAT's gonna be an AWESOME CD.

One more week, bro! JUST ONE MORE WEEEEEEEEK!!! *Kkun glares at us*

There's 2 new songs this week on BTA's purevolume & myspace

http://www.myspace.com/becomingthearchetype

*caugh* ahem. Now trying to be on topic...uhh, I'm not sure what to make of this new cd. It doesn't have the unique super fusion of genres anymore...now it just seems like, well plain ol' mainstream rock. I'll have to hear more though before judging

[Kkun]

One more week, bro! JUST ONE MORE WEEEEEEEEK!!! *Kkun glares at us*

There's 2 new songs this week on BTA's purevolume & myspace

http://www.myspace.com/becomingthearchetype

*caugh* ahem. Now trying to be on topic...uhh, I'm not sure what to make of this new cd. It doesn't have the unique super fusion of genres anymore...now it just seems like, well plain ol' mainstream rock. I'll have to hear more though before judging

o.o Why would I glare at you? You guys think I'm some kind of mean, old fuddy duddy or something. I LIKE BTA. I just don't think they're particularly amazing.

[Tommy]

Not amazing, but far superior to Linkin Park, if you ask me.
Linkin Park is still good though.

[Nate]

I actually heard two of the songs the other day, Given Up and What I've Done. And I have to say as a Linkin Park fan, I am absolutely appalled. What I've Done wasn't HORRIBLE, it was just bland and well, sounded like every other mainstream rock band in existence. That's not why I liked Linkin Park, it was because they had a different sound, not the same sound.

Given Up was just...well, terrible. It was like an assault on my eardrums. At least the clip I heard was only a minute long because I probably would have ripped my ears off if I'd been forced to listen to more of it.

I'm saying this as a Linkin Park fan, not someone who thinks they suck. Their first two albums were absolutely fantastic. I guess I'll just keep listening to those two, since they've lost their touch apparently.

[Tommy]

It was like an assault on my eardrums.

You'd love The Chariot.

[Nate]

You'd love The Chariot.

I've actually gotten a bit into the screaming type music, thanks to Jamie. :p Doesn't change the fact that Given Up was freaking horrendous.

[ilikegir33]

I am PSYCHED for this. I do not want any album this May except for MTM. I too have Hybrid Theory and Meteora as well as Reanimation and Collision Course: Linkin Park+Jay-Z. You know, Mike Shionoda (the rapper) did a solo effort called Fort Minor with Hollie Blackheart and Styles Of Beyond. They released a CD called The Rising Tied. I have that too. I CAN'T WAIT!!!! XD

[Tommy]

I've actually gotten a bit into the screaming type music, thanks to Jamie. :p Doesn't change the fact that Given Up was freaking horrendous.

It's more because of the choice of words.
"Assault to the Eardrum" is a phrase they use to describe their own music.

[That Dude]

So I have a question. Why is there the explicit content sticker on the new CD?

[Ichigo_89]

So I have a question. Why is there the explicit content sticker on the new CD?

Because they've stooped to using F-words in some songs now. (and as far as I know, F-combos too), There's a clean version U can get at Wal-Mart tho.

[Tommy]

That's retarded.

Linkin Park have sold out almost as much as In Flames and Children of Bodom.

[Stephen]

If you think Linkin Park have sold out, because they use an F-bomb on the new CD...you obviously know nothing about Linkin Park.

I plan on getting the new CD, I liked What I've Done.

[Kkun]

Yeah, seriously, if selling out means using profanity, then they sold out on the Hybrid Theory EP waaaaaay back in the day.

And Tom...buddy...pal........Children of Bodom has ALWAYS been profane.

[Tommy]

No, I didn't mean profanity.

I know plenty about Linkin Park.
I've even heard their stuff as their old and "Xero" and I know their Hybrid Theory EP is full of profanity.

I was joking around.
I personally don't thikn they sold out at all.
Their new CD barely sounds different than the other.
Sure, there's not as much rap vocals, and it isn't as heavy but it's still good nonetheless.

Dude, I'm aware that Children of Bodom was always profane...
They were actulaly a lot worse previously conentwise, but not musically.

Watch the music video for "Everytime I Die" and then watch the video for "Are you Dead Yet?"
You will see my point.
CoB are sellouts.

((Plus, considering LP mixed their stuff with Jay-Z....))

[Kkun]

No, I didn't mean profanity.

I know plenty about Linkin Park.
I've even heard their stuff as their old and "Xero" and I know their Hybrid Theory EP is full of profanity.

I was joking around.
I personally don't thikn they sold out at all.
Their new CD barely sounds different than the other.
Sure, there's not as much rap vocals, and it isn't as heavy but it's still good nonetheless.

Dude, I'm aware that Children of Bodom was always profane...
They were actulaly a lot worse previously conentwise, but not musically.

Watch the music video for "Everytime I Die" and then watch the video for "Are you Dead Yet?"
You will see my point.
CoB are sellouts.

((Plus, considering LP mixed their stuff with Jay-Z....))

Mixing with Jay-Z means they are business savvy, not sell-outs. ; )

[GrubbTheFragger]

-EDIT- Wrong thread

[Stephen]

Just got the CD today. It is ok. I am liking it more with each listen, but I don't like it as much as Hybrid or Meteora. Fav song is #8 No More Sorrow.

[Danderson]

I didn't get the CD, but I'm rather disappointed that they had to get a parental advisory label. Like Evanescence they originially had a very good alternative sound that really tried to be unique....but I believe the fame is now getting to them.....

I still like both Evanescences and Linkin Parks first albums. It's sad though to see how people waste the gifts God has given them.....

[Stephen]

If a band is doing the music for a job, then we have no right to judge what they do with there talents. I work at a grocery store, should people tell me I should be working at a Christian grocery store? Ministry bands I hold in a different light.

[That Dude]

I agree with you to a point ShatterSteve...But I think that you can judge what they do with their talents. If they aren't living up to what you know they can do doesn't that mean that they are doing a poor job and people should let them know to get their act together and live up to what they know their capable of? Anyway I haven't heard the new CD yet so I'm not talking about LP exclusivly.

[Nate]

I agree with you to a point ShatterSteve...But I think that you can judge what they do with their talents. If they aren't living up to what you know they can do doesn't that mean that they are doing a poor job and people should let them know to get their act together and live up to what they know their capable of?

How can we judge what they do with their talents? I'm not so arrogant as to say "You're wasting your talents" when I know I'm not using my talents to their fullest extent. Unless you're sure you're using 100% of your God-given talents to their fullest to serve God, how can you judge someone else? Didn't Jesus say "Remove the plank from your own eye before removing the speck from someone else's"?

And what does that mean let them know to get their act together and do what they're capable of? How do you know they're NOT already giving 100%?

I think Thousand Foot Krutch is one of the worst bands I've ever heard. But I'm not going to sit there and go, "They're doing a lousy job so they must not love God enough." No, I'm sure they're fully devoted to the Lord, it's just that their music isn't the kind of music I enjoy. To judge someone's devotion to God based on the quality of their work isn't the best idea, in my book. Besides, quality is usually subjective, and a lot of people love TFK and think they're the best band ever. They think TFK is high quality; I think they're terrible quality. It all comes down to taste.

We're supposed to do all we do for God, but that doesn't mean to always say "God and Jesus and the Bible" in everything you do. If you're a Christian who runs a company that makes blue jeans, how do you do that for God? Do you print a Bible verse inside the jeans? Do you say "Jesus would wear these jeans"? No, that would be lame. You just make jeans. You make the best jeans you can make. You don't put crosses or books of the Bible on it, you just make regular jeans. You take the profits and you use the profits to support Christian ministries, to support needy families in third world countries. THAT is how you serve God with your ability to make awesome jeans.

I'm sick of people saying just because a band doesn't say God every other line that they're not "Christian enough."

Not to mention the fact that I don't think Linkin Park ever claimed to be a Christian band in the FIRST PLACE. Nor did Evanescence.

I think Minutes to Midnight is a horrible album. That doesn't mean they're wasting their talents, it doesn't mean they're doing a poor job. It simply means the music on the CD isn't what I like.

[Stephen]

[quote="Nate"]How can we judge what they do with their talents? I'm not so arrogant as to say "You're wasting your talents" when I know I'm not using my talents to their fullest extent. Unless you're sure you're using 100% of your God-given talents to their fullest to serve God, how can you judge someone else? Didn't Jesus say "Remove the plank from your own eye before removing the speck from someone else's"?

And what does that mean let them know to get their act together and do what they're capable of? How do you know they're NOT already giving 100%?

I think Thousand Foot Krutch is one of the worst bands I've ever heard. But I'm not going to sit there and go, "They're doing a lousy job so they must not love God enough." No, I'm sure they're fully devoted to the Lord, it's just that their music isn't the kind of music I enjoy. To judge someone's devotion to God based on the quality of their work isn't the best idea, in my book. Besides, quality is usually subjective, and a lot of people love TFK and think they're the best band ever. They think TFK is high quality]

QFT. Now this saves me from typing out a long post. ^^

[everdred12a]

Did anyone ever consider that LP might be making the music THEY want to make now? Just throwing it out there.

[GrubbTheFragger]

I picked it up today and like it quite a bit. excellent IMO

[Tommy]

How can we judge what they do with their talents? I'm not so arrogant as to say "You're wasting your talents" when I know I'm not using my talents to their fullest extent. Unless you're sure you're using 100% of your God-given talents to their fullest to serve God, how can you judge someone else? Didn't Jesus say "Remove the plank from your own eye before removing the speck from someone else's"?

And what does that mean let them know to get their act together and do what they're capable of? How do you know they're NOT already giving 100%?

I think Thousand Foot Krutch is one of the worst bands I've ever heard. But I'm not going to sit there and go, "They're doing a lousy job so they must not love God enough." No, I'm sure they're fully devoted to the Lord, it's just that their music isn't the kind of music I enjoy. To judge someone's devotion to God based on the quality of their work isn't the best idea, in my book. Besides, quality is usually subjective, and a lot of people love TFK and think they're the best band ever. They think TFK is high quality]

I agreed with

I think Thousand Foot Krutch is one of the worst bands I've ever heard.

and

I think Minutes to Midnight is a horrible album.

and

I'm sick of people saying just because a band doesn't say God every other line that they're not "Christian enough."

Our views on this should be opinion-driven and there's no right or wrong answer.

I think all talents are God-given and they should be used to glorify Him.

Praising premarital-sex, drugs, Satan, ect. is not neccesarily wasting a God-goven talent but using your talent for the wrong thing. (I'm NOT saying LP falls under any of those categories.)

That doesn't mean I won't listen to it.

I take it back.
MTM isn't horrible, but after hearing its true form, I now think they're sellouts and they're only concerned with dropping a Nu Metal image. I think their cursing is irrelevant to them being sellouts.

I still love "What I've Done."

You guys can like it and I'll enjoy Meteroa and The Hybrid Theory.