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help!!cant decide which 2 buy the zune or creative zen vision m!!!

Postby cawnc4 » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:06 pm

please give me pros and cons of each product
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Postby Mr. Rogers » Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:45 pm

I'm too tired to explain it all right now, but the Zune pretty much sucks. I would get the Creative Zen. The Zune is so hampered down by copy protection it is ridiculous.
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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:08 pm

Let's just say Creative basically invented sound, so they know what they're doing.
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:28 pm

I can't explain all of it now, but the Zune is downright AWFUL. XD Go with the Creative. It's better. And if you have the funds, go with an iPod. All I can say, though, is that Apple >>>>>> Microsoft. XD
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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:52 pm

Zune bad, pigs good.
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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:04 am

Creative is better than the iPod in many ways. And iPods are overpriced.
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Postby cawnc4 » Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:04 am

i hate ipod, i havent even considered an ipod
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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:47 pm

I'm not willing to pay for an iPod, but I am willing to own an iPod. They're solid, well put together, and stylish. If you want one free, there are a lot of legitimate websites that will give you one in exchange for signing up for things like creditcards and free trials that you can immediately cancel. tvfreeipod springs to mind. It's done by some company that got reviewed by one of the big game magazines a few years ago for their Console givaways and was rated as being very good. Reliable.
Either way, I trust Creative. They're a good company. Go with that one. The Zune is awful.
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Postby Mr. Rogers » Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:12 am

Etoh*the*Greato wrote:I'm not willing to pay for an iPod, but I am willing to own an iPod. They're solid, well put together, and stylish. If you want one free, there are a lot of legitimate websites that will give you one in exchange for signing up for things like creditcards and free trials that you can immediately cancel. tvfreeipod springs to mind. It's done by some company that got reviewed by one of the big game magazines a few years ago for their Console givaways and was rated as being very good. Reliable.
Either way, I trust Creative. They're a good company. Go with that one. The Zune is awful.


Why go through all the trouble? The iPod is not that expensive to begin with but you can buy a refurbished one for even cheaper straight off the Apple site.


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Postby cawnc4 » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:51 am

i dont like ipods its not the price. but u can only use mp3's not wma's which are less memory.
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Postby Warrior4Christ » Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:06 am

cawnc4 wrote:i dont like ipods its not the price. but u can only use mp3's not wma's which are less memory.

I agree with you there.

I would go with the Creative.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:21 pm

cawnc4 wrote:i dont like ipods its not the price. but u can only use mp3's not wma's which are less memory.

WMAs pretty much suck though.
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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:14 am

And the only reason why they're not on the iPod is because they're Microsoft Propriatary format. Kind of like how iPods can play Macintosh propriataries (quicktime files and such).
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Postby Kenshin17 » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:11 am

Zen Vision:M hands down. Plays more format types (including DivX movies) and it looks better then the iPod in my opinion. And Creative has been doing sound since computers could make sound...prolly before that...so they know their way around sound.

Word of advice: If you by an HDD MP3 player GET A BELT CLIP CASE!!!! Make sure you don't drop the sucker...I had a Zen Vision:M, loved it to death, dropped it, head crash, end of Zen....and let me tell you something having to go from a Zen Vsion:M to a Sansa 2 gig mp3 player is like having to move from a farrari to a focus...
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Postby cawnc4 » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:00 pm

whats wrong w/ wma's??and does the vision m and the ipod have the same input for sync and charging cuz they look the same, and i noe that in the settlement between apple and creative apple could make products that said made 4 ipod that could work w/ the creative products
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Postby Kenshin17 » Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:11 pm

No clue about such, and I think the reason most people don't like wma is a) they are not as widely compatible b) they are not as good quality
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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:03 pm

Even on my PC I usually had some problem or another running them.
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Postby Warrior4Christ » Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:38 am

Kenshin17 wrote:No clue about such, and I think the reason most people don't like wma is a) they are not as widely compatible b) they are not as good quality

I would say a) is not really that much of an issue these days...
And b) is false, since WMAs are better quality than MP3s at the same bitrate.
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Postby Kenshin17 » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:20 am

Ah, havn't used wma since the days when i discovered MP3, also not much of an audiophile so never noticed *shrug* my bad.

I wouldn't use them now simply because they are a Microsoft monster :grin:
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Postby cawnc4 » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:42 pm

i havent found any problems w/ wma's, and pretty much every mp3 players on the market exept ipod can play wma's. and do u guys noe if the vision m comes w/ a decent converter, or where i could get a good free converter?? :thumb:
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Postby Kenshin17 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:32 am

Vision:M does come with a converter. I never really played with how much it could convert but it converted some .mov files I believe. You won't have to convert to many file types. Vision:M plays a lot, you'll have to convert resolutions mostly. It does that.
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Postby cawnc4 » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:38 am

thx
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