This wounds my spirit deeply: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061103/ap_on_re_us/haggard_sex_allegations_30
I have long been an avid follower of Ted Haggards preaching and ministry, and have tried to model my own future ministry upon his ideas and doctrines layed out in his books. It wounds me deeply to see this man in this situation, though sadly, it is not that suprising, though it pains my heart deeply to say so.
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Let us not judge, for that is to God. Let us not Hate, for that is against God. Let us merely pray, and praise God through this horrible time.
In Christs Name,
Amen.
Ted Haggard
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Ted Haggard
With your doubt, all is comfort
We are all as we appear
No more questions left unanswered
No more wonder, no more fear
Nothing is beauty, nothing's feeling
Blood where there once was a soul
So I ask you, prove yourself
Make me believe that you are whole
We are all as we appear
No more questions left unanswered
No more wonder, no more fear
Nothing is beauty, nothing's feeling
Blood where there once was a soul
So I ask you, prove yourself
Make me believe that you are whole
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I never really liked Ted Haggard, but nevertheless, I just have a lot of trouble believing this to be true. I tend to more lean towards the idea that it is some conspiracy to discredit someone on the forefront of the evangelical church, before the eyes of the world, so as to end up putting another black mark on the truth of the gospel. To make it look like just another stupid hypocritical religion.
If it IS true, then it is sorry to see how far the pollution of the world has spread. This is one case though, where I firmly feel "innocent until proven guilty". I pray that the outcome, whatever it may be, does not damage further the credibility of the true gospel of Jesus Christ, but opens the doors for many others to come to know Him.
If it IS true, then it is sorry to see how far the pollution of the world has spread. This is one case though, where I firmly feel "innocent until proven guilty". I pray that the outcome, whatever it may be, does not damage further the credibility of the true gospel of Jesus Christ, but opens the doors for many others to come to know Him.
In Christ,
Dyzzi
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dyzzispell - Posts: 296
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Apparently not; he has admitted to "sexual immorality".
May God grant peace to his soul.
May God grant peace to his soul.
With your doubt, all is comfort
We are all as we appear
No more questions left unanswered
No more wonder, no more fear
Nothing is beauty, nothing's feeling
Blood where there once was a soul
So I ask you, prove yourself
Make me believe that you are whole
We are all as we appear
No more questions left unanswered
No more wonder, no more fear
Nothing is beauty, nothing's feeling
Blood where there once was a soul
So I ask you, prove yourself
Make me believe that you are whole
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Jingo Jaden - Posts: 2175
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This one hits home for me...I go to New Life on Friday's for their college group The Mill. I'll definately be keeping this in my prayers...It's going to be effecting many people that I know.
I am convinced that many men who preach the gospel and love the Lord are really misunderstood. People make a “profession,â€
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I just feel bad for his wife and kids. . . it has to be horrible for them.
Be Thou my Vision, O Lord of my heart;
Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art
Thou my best Thought, by day or by night,
Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light.
Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word;
I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord;
Thou my great Father, I Thy true son;
Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one.
Be Thou my battle Shield, Sword for the fight;
Be Thou my Dignity, Thou my Delight;
Thou my soul’s Shelter, Thou my high Tower:
Raise Thou me heavenward, O Power of my power.
Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise,
Thou mine Inheritance, now and always:
Thou and Thou only, first in my heart,
High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art.
High King of Heaven, my victory won,
May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heaven’s Sun!
Heart of my own heart, whatever befall,
Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all.
Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art
Thou my best Thought, by day or by night,
Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light.
Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word;
I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord;
Thou my great Father, I Thy true son;
Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one.
Be Thou my battle Shield, Sword for the fight;
Be Thou my Dignity, Thou my Delight;
Thou my soul’s Shelter, Thou my high Tower:
Raise Thou me heavenward, O Power of my power.
Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise,
Thou mine Inheritance, now and always:
Thou and Thou only, first in my heart,
High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art.
High King of Heaven, my victory won,
May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heaven’s Sun!
Heart of my own heart, whatever befall,
Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all.
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I'll pray. It's always sad, to me, to see the amount of furor this type of thing kicks up. I'm not surprised to learn that Christian leaders sin by any means, all of us struggle with sin to one point or another, it's just that we always seem shocked to learn that Christian leaders struggle just like the rest of us. Though I know nothing of him, I will pray for this man and his church (fortunately it seems like they are dealing with this appropriately), and I hope that people are able to see past what he has done to the fact that God uses broken people to preach His word, and because of that, they sadly mess up some times, and unfortunately, the instant they do, the world jumps on it and screams hypocrisy.
"...cease not a day from this work; be killing sin or it will be killing you." - John Owen The Mortification of Sin
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well, it's true that everyone sins and everyone makes mistakes. it's still shocking but i'll be praying.
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"Sometimes we don't present the Gospel well enough for the non-elect to reject it."
- John MacArthur
"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper
"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)
"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
- John Piper
"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper
"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul
"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll
"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther
"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
- Dr. Joseph Ton, the exiled Romanian pastor (quoted by James Montgomery Boice)
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