Bobtheduck (post: 1361109) wrote:So the obsession with Anime will mostly die and instead of maturing into a love for a wider variety of media, people will just hate animation again, thinking they've "grown out of it"
That's what those things mean to me. Well, the cartoon network thing is more because they're getting rid of anime because it's not popular anymore. They'll still have cartoons (obviously) broken into two groups: Kids and the late night college student crowd. I think anime has been waning in popularity in the US for a while. I still love it, though, or rather I love animation as a storytelling medium. I will again be in a minority. Meh.
Japan has been going backwards in some way in regards to their entertainment lately, the ones obsessed with 2d to the exclusion of real people are creating a stigma that animation may never recover from thre, and 2d Animation in the US hasn't grown any further than it grew in 1989. I don't have much hope for it, honestly.
Hey don't worry. We'll just be getting Korean and Chinese shows in a few years. Has there been a successful animated adaption of a manwha or manhua?
Cloud500 wrote:After seeing this(http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/buried-treasure/2007-10-25), I'm very hesitant to watch any Chinese animation...
rocklobster (post: 1361102) wrote:Every year, I do this thread. I actually manage to get some things right, which is the sole reason I do it. So, here are my predictions for 2010:
1. FUNimation will be the only DVD company left.
2. Syfy (ugh) will discontinue their anime shows after they complete Monster.
3. Bleach will be the only anime on Cartoon Network.
" wrote:RustyClaymore 11:27 - Ah yes, Socks is the single raindrop responsible for the flood. XD
KhakiBlueSocks wrote:[font="Trebuchet MS"][SIZE="4"][color="RoyalBlue"]1. If that were to happen, I would be very surprised--we still have a few companies out there like Bandai and Right Stuf][/SIZE][/font]
" wrote:RustyClaymore 11:27 - Ah yes, Socks is the single raindrop responsible for the flood. XD
KhakiBlueSocks (post: 1361217) wrote:[font="Trebuchet MS"][SIZE="4"][color="RoyalBlue"]I also have a small prediction that I would like to make based off of an interview I heard on ANN's podcast this week with Right Stuf's founder Shawne Kleckner:
I predict that we will see more and more sub-only releases. Reason being is because depending on the title being released, some companies may or may not recoup the cost of creating an English dub. Better to create a sub-only product, release it, sell a bumper crop of disks to recoup the license fees and then some, and then make the choice on whether or not to re-release in English.
Yes, I know this will mean hearing less and less of our favorite English V/A's, but my thoughts are that it will help keep costs down for the production companies which very well might keep prices down on the end product.[/color][/SIZE][/font]
Nate (post: 1361207) wrote:That sounds just like my friend who said they'd never watch anime because they saw Speed Racer.
Cloud500 wrote:I guess I should rephrase it to "I'm hesitant to watch any made solely for the purpose of marketing toys."
Nate (post: 1361222) wrote:The second reason is that subbed anime just isn't going to be shown on TV. That immediately limits the number of people they can reach. Combine that with the number of people who flat out won't watch subbed anime, and it hurts them even more.
rocklobster (post: 1361102) wrote:3. Bleach will be the only anime on Cartoon Network.
Davidizer13 wrote:There's plenty of anime left on Cartoon Network. It's just on at ridiculous times, like early mornings on weekdays and really, really late nights on Saturdays. It's getting less and less worth it to stay up/get up and watch it at those times, though, what with the advent of the Internet and other on-demand services, and the movement of anime fans to follow those developments. Anime will be a permanent fixture on Cartoon Network, though in the foreseeable future, it'll probably shift to shows like Yu-Gi-Oh!. Pokemon, and the like, which are still on in the early-morning slots.
2. Syfy (ugh) will discontinue their anime shows after they complete Monster.
2. You might be right about that one. Maybe if they put their anime in a different time slot, Saturdays perhaps, running with Adult Swim's time slot, that would help put them back in the game, but I really don't see "Ani-Monday" going very long in 2010.
Nate (post: 1361289) wrote:I don't understand this logic. At all.
Probably because right now, I'm watching Shinkenger, which is a show made solely for the purpose of marketing toys. And Shinkenger has some of the deepest characters, most involving storylines, and best choreography of any show I've ever seen. I'm blown away by how fantastic this show is, and it was made solely for the purpose of marketing toys.
I really cannot comprehend in the slightest how a show being based on selling toys is bad. It's all up to the writers and directors on how to do the show. If they're trying to make a quick buck and don't care about the show, then yeah, it's gonna suck, but that's not in any way related to the fact that it was made to sell toys.
To further drive my point home, DearS is a pretty awful anime. I tried watching it and it was just bad. Horribly bad. And guess what? It wasn't made to sell toys.
So I've named one show that was based on selling toys that was good (Shinkenger) and one NOT based on selling toys that was awful (DearS). If you'd like, I can name tons more shows based on toys that are good and tons more not based on toys that suck.
Yes, I realize you can list shows based on toys that suck and ones that aren't and are good, but as I said. That merely proves that a show is good or bad on its own merits, not on the fact that it's made to sell toys. You can have good writers and directors on a show, or bad ones, and good ones can take a silly toy line and make it deep and interesting, and bad ones can drive even an original concept into the ground and make it suck (Ikkitousen did that wonderfully, another show not based on toys by the way).
So when someone can give me a good reason why they wouldn't watch a show based on a toy line, I'll accept this line of thought. "Some shows based on toys aren't good therefore they're all terrible" isn't a good reason, any more than "One woman I met was really annoying to me therefore all women are really annoying."
Nate (post: 1361222) wrote:I don't think we'll see more sub-only releases, and I'll tell you why.
The first reason is because people love to talk about how official subs are "inaccurate" or censored, and that even if the releases are just subbed they're inferior subs to fansubs.
The second reason is that subbed anime just isn't going to be shown on TV. That immediately limits the number of people they can reach. Combine that with the number of people who flat out won't watch subbed anime, and it hurts them even more.
I know there are people who flat out won't watch dubbed anime, but that's offset by the dual language DVDs. People who don't like dubs still get the original Japanese, but with sub-only DVDs people who don't like subs wouldn't bother with them.
Cloud500 wrote:Again, I'm sorry and wasn't trying to sound like I hate everything.
blkmage wrote:So I don't think more sub-only releases means less dubbed releases. I think it means that, with lower production costs, licensors can look at a wider range of titles than they originally would have.
blkmage wrote:My current belief is that it's not only honest fans that buy things, but really hardcore ones: the ones like their bretheren in Japan who buy and collect everything.
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