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Hentia has ruined anime
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:54 am
by Veru
i cant wach most anime cause of all the upskerts and big boobs skimpy out fit crap my parents see. i know thats what sells but if ppl dont know the diferance all they can see is the half naked chicks they use to addvertise
just about ever manga has a super sexy girl *cough* girly dude *cough* but they get more and more ommm grafic and unless ur looking for a grafic romance it needs to stay there some are comeidies with the didnt see u and face plant in boobs stuf or the hot springs but all that stuf keeps some people from injoying the stuf. Bleach as the
girl with huge boobs come on thats waaaayy overboard my freind can read naruto cause of the center fold thing, i got banned from Deveant art because my dad looked around on it and found things he didnt aprove of. one time i sat down and was going to look up hentia and show my family the diferance from that and anime and the stuf i found was....
i wasnt going to show them it was a lil gross.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:08 am
by Azariah
Hentai is a part of the cultur in Japan. Having sexual relations with another woman while a man is married can be concidered just fine as long as he dosn't, "make love." You're pointing the finger at the wrong thing, but I understand your frustration.
Nonetheless, they are your parents and you should listion to them. You can do what you want when you move out of the house. Belieave me that's not far off.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:14 am
by Makachop^^128
it might be a good Idea to talk freely about the anime ur watching with ur parents, I tell my parents the things I like in it and the things that are just gross. for me it makes them less worried cause I'm being honest with them so yea...
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:14 am
by Azariah
Good idea Makachop.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:27 am
by EricTheFred
You have my sympathies, my friend. Personally, I find the humongous bosom obsession downright annoying, and I feel it seriously detracts from most anime and manga series that insist on including it.
From an artist's point of view, I'm also confounded by it. I often find myself convinced that none of the artists has any idea what a real girl is shaped like.
(sigh)
I can tell you one thing, though. It isn't all that new a problem, nor is it necessarily related to Japan. Even as a teenager back in the 70s, I avoided letting my parents see some of my comic books. Swamp Thing and Heavy Metal were the two biggest problems as I recall. Not that I'm advising you to hide things from your parents. Just admitting what I did in the past.
I admit, this might have been some of the attraction of these titles held for me back then, but darn it, even then it wasn't the primary attraction! If it had been, I'm sure I would have been doing like some other guys my age were, and getting hold of men's magazines instead of comic books.
Anyway, stick to your morals and be patient. You are right to be frustrated, but you will still find things you and your parents can approve of, if you keep trying.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:32 am
by Makachop^^128
You have my sympathies, my friend. Personally, I find the humongous bosom obsession downright annoying, and I feel it seriously detracts from most anime and manga series that insist on including it.
From an artist's point of view, I'm also confounded by it. I find often myself convinced that none of the artists has any idea what a real girl is shaped like.
I think sometimes the artists need to get out of their office and go for a walk in the park and just study people, because they are never THAT big, one series I loved cuz there was no sexaul joke was Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit balsa is soo realistic
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:42 am
by Yamamaya
First of all, hentai makes up a small percentage of manga/anime just like how porn makes up a small percentage of live action T.V.(no pun intended.)
Anyway, you appear to be referring to fanservice. This is something artists do in shoenun and seinan anime to appeal to their demographic, young men. Live action T.V. does this to a certain extend as well.
As for your parents, you can let them see the manga or anime before you buy it so that they realize it's not hentai.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:02 am
by Azariah
There is a lot of anime/manga out there for sure.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:20 am
by minakichan
\o/ THIS THREAD IS AWESOME.
Taking bets on how long it'll last before it's derailed and crashing into a giant ball of explosiveness.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:21 am
by Yamamaya
Hehe, the fact that I have Neliel in my sig, a Bleach character with huge breats should be enough to derail this thread.
Anyway, deviantart, like all huge websites is guaranteed to have some weird stuff on it. That's why they have search filters.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:30 am
by Fish and Chips
Veru (post: 1335707) wrote:i cant wach most anime cause of all the upskerts and big boobs skimpy out fit crap my parents see. i know thats what sells but if ppl dont know the diferance all they can see is the half naked chicks they use to addvertise
just about ever manga has a super sexy girl *cough* girly dude *cough* but they get more and more ommm grafic and unless ur looking for a grafic romance it needs to stay there some are comeidies with the didnt see u and face plant in boobs stuf or the hot springs but all that stuf keeps some people from injoying the stuf. Bleach as the
girl with huge boobs come on thats waaaayy overboard my freind can read naruto cause of the center fold thing, i got banned from Deveant art because my dad looked around on it and found things he didnt aprove of. one time i sat down and was going to look up hentia and show my family the diferance from that and anime and the stuf i found was....
i wasnt going to show them it was a lil gross.
"I can't watch most Anime because of all the up-skirt shots and big breasted, skimpy outfit crap my parents see. I know that's what sells but if peopel don't know the differance, all they can see is the half naked chicks they used to advertise. Just about every Manga has a super sexy girl (or apparently a girly dude is bad enough), but they get more and more graphic and unless you're looking for a graphic romance it needs to stay there. Some are comedies, with the Didn't See You and Face Plant In Boobs stuff or the hot springs but all that stuff keeps some people from enjoying the stuff. Bleach has that girl (only one) with the huge boobs, come on, that's way overboard. My friend can't read naruto because of the centerfold thing, and I got banned from DeviantArt because my dad looked around on it and found things he didn't approve of. One time I sat down and was going to look up Hentai and show my family the difference from that and Anime and the stuff I found was... I wasn't going to show them because it was a little gross."
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:45 am
by pikmintaro
I have watched a lot of Anime but so far I haven't seen that many upskirt shots and stuff like that (Although there is the occasional big chested female like Neliel but I don't really mind) so I don't know maybe you are just watching a lot of different anime than I am?
But I don't know if that stuff really counts as "Hentai" I'm fine as long as there is no actual nudity (I mean seeing the actual genitals or nipples or things like that)
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:51 am
by ADXC
Good job Fish.
@ pikmintaro- I agree. If there is full nudity or the things you said are shown then it would be hentai, I think. Otherwise, it's just fanservice.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:52 am
by Fish and Chips
pikmintaro (post: 1335767) wrote:I have watched a lot of Anime but so far I haven't seen that many upskirt shots and stuff like that (Although there is the occasional big chested female like Neliel but I don't really mind) so I don't know maybe you are just watching a lot of different anime than I am?
But I don't know if that stuff really counts as "Hentai" I'm fine as long as there is no actual nudity (I mean seeing the actual genitals or nipples or things like that)
Hentai (meaning "Perverse, pervert") is really more of a genre term than anything, and usually reserved for more detailed or excessive titles, including mainly any graphic depictions of sex (and occasionally violence), sometimes accompanied with unconventional subject matter. Simple nudity, undetailed or no, and other such shots meant to titillate are fanservice, with most instances of extreme nudity falling under Ecchi ("Naughty").
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:08 am
by pikmintaro
Yeah that's what I thought.
But also fanservice isn't just stuff like that it's also when the Mangaka is doing something especially for the fans like if the fans want two characters to get together and the Mangaka does it for them or focuses on a certain character in the story for them that's also fanservice (You know like a "Service to the fans").
I think Mangaka is the name for the person who makes the Manga but I'm not sure.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:13 am
by ADXC
Fanservice can be anything that they fans want to see more of. This can be true as others have said for mecha-type anime(Bigger and badder mechs) or fighting types(Like where they will add a new type of super cool attack or something) where they will add that extra bit to make the fans happy.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:25 am
by Nate
Veru wrote:one time i sat down and was going to look up hentia and show my family the diferance from that and anime
...wow, that sounds like a really terrible plan.
Yamamaya wrote:porn makes up a small percentage of live action T.V.(no pun intended.)
...I'm...not seeing where there was a pun in that.
Azariah wrote:Having sexual relations with another woman while a man is married can be concidered just fine as long as he dosn't, "make love."
...what?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:31 am
by EricTheFred
pikmintaro (post: 1335767) wrote:I have watched a lot of Anime but so far I haven't seen that many upskirt shots and stuff like that (Although there is the occasional big chested female like Neliel but I don't really mind) so I don't know maybe you are just watching a lot of different anime than I am?
I'm sure he meant panty flashes, which are entirely too common in my opinion. Of course my definition of 'too common' may be a lot different than someone younger than me..
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:39 am
by everdred12a
Nate wrote:Azariah wrote:Having sexual relations with another woman while a man is married can be concidered just fine as long as he dosn't, "make love."
...what?
It's actually true. In Japan, a man is allowed to run around on his wife as much as he wants as long as he doesn't "love" his mistresses and his "love" stays faithful to his wife.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:47 am
by Nate
The way he phrased it made it sound like he was talking generally, not about the legality of extramarital affairs in Japan.
So now his statement actually makes LESS sense, as what does that have to do with Japan having hentai? It's not part of the culture, not really, since they don't show hentai on TV or anything, and people who are into hentai are more or less social outcasts there.
But having hentai doesn't mean a thing in regards to how much a Japanese dude can run around on his wife, because America has porn...in fact, America has MORE porn than Japan has hentai, and it's illegal here to cheat on your wife, so...I don't understand how any of this makes any bit of sense.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:15 pm
by LadyRushia
This discussion is seriously going nowhere. If you want to continue talking about this, take it to PM.