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Question for other girls... about cute villains

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:00 pm
by Alice
I've noticed that I find villians or slightly nasty guys in anime and manga rather attractive. Not always, but enough that it probably isn't a coincidence.

Back when I used to read Fushigi Yugi, I like that villain with light hair, who was so cute. In YYH, my fave character was Hiei, who even after he became a hero was still angry and dangerous. Right now I'm into Beyblade, and (of course) my favorite character is Kai... again, not a baddie, but sort of... quiet and angry. Maybe I just like silent, cute-looking guys. Maybe I just like quiet, mysterious guys. I certainly stay away from nasty guys in real life!

Anyway, I was wondering if you girls experienced that, too, and if so how you deal with it.

Thanks!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:03 pm
by Alice
[muffled voice] Yesh, I've notished thish. Ishn't it strange?
...dancing banana!
:dance:

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:13 pm
by Joshua Christopher
Oh, I totally feel the same way. Lord Alberto from Giant Robo is HOT!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:14 pm
by Alice
[normal voice again] Well, imagine that! I got an answer, and so quickly! Someone knows what I mean... someone who looks exactly like me... Urr.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:24 pm
by Kisa
Yes! Sometimes the baddies are hotter than the good guys, lol....

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:47 pm
by teigeki_calesa
Ah, the appeal of anti heroes to fangirls. Although the only villain/antihero that I only went bonkers on was Prince Heinell from Voltes V(a 70s super robot anime).

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:01 pm
by Mangafanatic
OH! Like Izumi. . . Me love Izumi. . .

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:13 pm
by dragonshimmer
O_O A fellow fangirl....the same age as I am...who still drools over anime boys.

Alice, you are my new best friend. I shall love you forever. I'm Hope. *waves*

Nakago is the guy from Fushigi Yugi that you are referring to, I believe, and YES, he is the major hottage. It's probably the "He's a bad guy but just needs a good hug" appeal.

Oh, I totally feel the same way. Lord Alberto from Giant Robo is HOT!

OH COME ON!! You mean no one else found this disturbing, EVEN for Impact?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:41 pm
by Alice
Maybe that's it. I was kinda hoping to start a recovery club, not join a bunch like minded people, but hey...

O_O A fellow fangirl....the same age as I am...who still drools over anime boys.

Alice, you are my new best friend. I shall love you forever. I'm Hope. *waves*

...Thanks! Hi Hope! :waves:

I haven't seen the Robo-thing baddie you guys are talking about, so I don't feel competent to comment on him. :)

...Yeah, Nakago. He was so... I mean, the first time I saw him, I didn't know what was going on, I hardly knew what manga was... but I noticed him right away. I thought he was so cute. It's weird!

And I write a lot, but to my knowledge I've never written a villain I felt that way about... you know, that he was cute, and cool.

Sorry if I'm blabbering. It's getting late!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:04 pm
by Mave
I like some anti-heroes such as Saitou Hajime, Seta Soujiro, Brad Crawford, Nagi Naoe, Anotsu Kagehisa, Makubex, Hiei...but then again, they're not necessarily EVIL per se.

OH COME ON!! You mean no one else found this disturbing, EVEN for Impact?

:lol: I've come to expect just about anything from Impact nowadays. I'm waiting for him to admit that he's really a girl. ;)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:31 pm
by kazekami
Yes Nakago is great. Have you seen any of Go Go Nakago? If not you have to Yuu Watase has a great sense of humor. heh. The only way to sescribe it is its the actors who play the charachters in Fushigi Yugi and the guy who plays Nakago is picked on. He has one mysterious fan who sends him roses. Its absolutely hilarious. But besides that I think that Seishoumaru is nice too. heh heh. And I loved Hiei. Hes just too cool. How about Krad from DN Angel. Now that is one nice bishonen. =) There are a lot of great bad guys who are very attractive. My cosuins were freaking out because I said some bad guy was hot in a video game. They were like "your evil Chris." So I couldn't help but just throwing in a maniacle laugh for good measure.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:42 pm
by dragonshimmer
[quote="Mave"]I like some anti-heroes such as Saitou Hajime, Seta Soujiro, Brad Crawford, Nagi Naoe, Anotsu Kagehisa, Makubex, Hiei...but then again, they're not necessarily EVIL per se.


:lol: I've come to expect just about anything from Impact nowadays. I'm waiting for him to admit that he's really a girl. ]

OT, but...

Actually, Mave, he did tell me he was really a girl a week ago.

I actually believed him for a few minutes. :hits_self Guess it takes me a while to catch on sometimes.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:15 am
by Mr. SmartyPants
[quote="Mave"]I like some anti-heroes such as Saitou Hajime, Seta Soujiro, Brad Crawford, Nagi Naoe, Anotsu Kagehisa, Makubex, Hiei...but then again, they're not necessarily EVIL per se.


:lol: I've come to expect just about anything from Impact nowadays. I'm waiting for him to admit that he's really a girl. ]

yikes

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:53 am
by Angel37
Hey in Left Behind I thought the antichrist Nicolae Carpathia was the coolest character ever (until he got creepy half way through the series). And in Slayers I love Xellos Metallium who isn't really a villian but he sure isn't a goo guy! So I totally know what you mean!
Impact hun..........u r.........seriously.....RANDOM! LOL!
<3 Angel

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:23 am
by termyt
Impact Alberto wrote:Oh, I totally feel the same way. Lord Alberto from Giant Robo is HOT!


You strange, strange little man.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:27 am
by Alice
kazekami wrote:Yes Nakago is great. Have you seen any of Go Go Nakago? If not you have to Yuu Watase has a great sense of humor. heh. The only way to sescribe it is its the actors who play the charachters in Fushigi Yugi and the guy who plays Nakago is picked on. He has one mysterious fan who sends him roses. Its absolutely hilarious.


Yeah, I heard about that. It sounded really funny. But come on, I don't even read FY anymore. How would I find Go Go Nakago?


But besides that I think that Seishoumaru is nice too. heh heh. And I loved Hiei. Hes just too cool. How about Krad from DN Angel. Now that is one nice bishonen. =) There are a lot of great bad guys who are very attractive. My cosuins were freaking out because I said some bad guy was hot in a video game. They were like "your evil Chris." So I couldn't help but just throwing in a maniacle laugh for good measure.


Yeah, I'm not watching it, but I thought Seishoumaru was cute, too. He probably 'turns good' later, because he showed up in the ending music and looked sad.

That sounds really funny about your cousins, btw.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:28 am
by Android raptor
Yeah, A.r. is like that too. She's freakin' in LOVE with the oh-so-insane Ghinius Sakhalin (which one of my friends just called "the most evil guy in Gundam, hands down). Man, I drool so much over him! *drools over Ghinius*

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:48 am
by kazekami
Alice wrote:Yeah, I heard about that. It sounded really funny. But come on, I don't even read FY anymore. How would I find Go Go Nakago?
I think there was a site with it. But its down right now. I have the first part or it because it was put in a short story anthology called Mint de Kiss Me.


Alice wrote:Yeah, I'm not watching it, but I thought Seishoumaru was cute, too. He probably 'turns good' later, because he showed up in the ending music and looked sad.


Yeah he sorta does. But he still will kill anyone who gets in the way of what he wants.

Alice wrote:That sounds really funny about your cousins, btw.


Heh heh. Yeah my cousins just don't undertand.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:26 pm
by Joshua Christopher
[quote="Mave"]
:lol: I've come to expect just about anything from Impact nowadays. I'm waiting for him to admit that he's really a girl. ]

::Looks at picture of himself::

Wow... I am one *REALLY* ugly girl. With a lot of facial hair. : O

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:35 pm
by Nate
Impact Alberto wrote:::Looks at picture of himself::

Wow... I am one *REALLY* ugly girl. With a lot of facial hair. : O

Y'know, I get mistaken for a girl online a LOT. So I guess you could say the same about me. XD

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:42 pm
by Alice
dragonshimmer wrote:Nakago is the guy from Fushigi Yugi that you are referring to, I believe, and YES, he is the major hottage. It's probably the "He's a bad guy but just needs a good hug" appeal.


You know, the more I think about this, the more I think you could be right. Pity factor. Hm.

Well I hope I don't do that with real guys. Definitely I feel pity for the villains I like... kind of like they need it. Maybe that's it after all!

Now I feel better. Maybe I'm not obscenely weird, just sort of... overly feeling about stuff. (Hey, I'm a girl, that's what you get!)

:cool:

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:48 pm
by Alice
kaemmerite wrote:Y'know, I get mistaken for a girl online a LOT. So I guess you could say the same about me. XD


Well now, you've got that little Mars/Man symbol next to your name, so tell them to shape up!
:thumb:

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:57 pm
by Nate
Alice wrote:Well now, you've got that little Mars/Man symbol next to your name, so tell them to shape up!
:thumb:

Heh...no one ever pays attention to that. All they see is my avatar, or my pink font on YIM, and they just assume. And we all know what assuming does...

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:23 pm
by Alice
*I* pay attention to that. People like to chose avatars that aren't necessarily like them (let's face it, that could get boring quickly), but like their favorite characters. So you have to pay attention to that.
:dance:

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:36 pm
by Mave
Impact Alberto wrote:::Looks at picture of himself::

Wow... I am one *REALLY* ugly girl. With a lot of facial hair. : O


:lol: It's Ok *pats Impact's back* Shaving might help a little but we're still friends. XD


Back to topic:

As cute as villians can be, I always draw a line at their personalities or actions. No fudge about that.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:15 pm
by Alice
Yeah, if a villain's too nasty, it ruins his cuteness. After all, actions matter more than looks.

Um, I can't think of an example right now. Maybe I wouldn't have like Nakie after he got really evil... or I saw him doing something really evil...

Anyway, I totally don't like villains if they seem unrelentingly evil.

I guess my problem is that even ones who seem nasty but not pure evil, I wonder if it's cool to like them!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:52 am
by Alice
Alice wrote:Um, I can't think of an example right now.


I thought of an example. The captain on Last Exile. (I remembered his name this morning, but then I forgot it again.)

He was really cool, I thought, and he wasn't a bad guy, but sometimes he seemed like it.

Anyway, partway through the series it became apparent that he was full of hate, refused to forgive, and lived only for revenge. I stopped liking him after that. He just didn't seem as interesting any more. I felt kinda sorry for him, but I just didn't think he was cool.

Alex Rowe. That's his name. I remembered again. :)

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 9:38 am
by Alice
Okay, I had a brainstorm last night.

(Maybe it won't make sense today.)

Sometimes I like characters that seem sort of fierce or tough -- opposites of me. But maybe part of it isn't just perversity. Part of it could be that I recognize in them something that, in myself, I keep hidden or don't even realize exists.

Um, that didn't quite come out right. But what I mean is, strength. And a sort of bad attitude that isn't impressed by anything. I have these things in me, but I don't always recognize or appreciate them. Usually I'm just nice, polite, and weak. But in these characters (who usually happen to be cute guys) :) I can appreciate these characteristics, and, vicariously, enjoy feeling strong and tough -- things which I can't feel appropriately very often in real life.

Just my thoughts... See, this probably shows that I'm just trying to intellectualize it too much. :)

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 2:28 pm
by Joshua Christopher
Alice wrote:Okay, I had a brainstorm last night.

(Maybe it won't make sense today.)

Sometimes I like characters that seem sort of fierce or tough -- opposites of me. But maybe part of it isn't just perversity. Part of it could be that I recognize in them something that, in myself, I keep hidden or don't even realize exists.

Um, that didn't quite come out right. But what I mean is, strength. And a sort of bad attitude that isn't impressed by anything. I have these things in me, but I don't always recognize or appreciate them. Usually I'm just nice, polite, and weak. But in these characters (who usually happen to be cute guys) :) I can appreciate these characteristics, and, vicariously, enjoy feeling strong and tough -- things which I can't feel appropriately very often in real life.

Just my thoughts... See, this probably shows that I'm just trying to intellectualize it too much. :)


So when are you going to start raving about Lord Alberto in Giant Robo? ; )

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 2:35 pm
by Alice
Bwahahahaahh!!!