Fish and Chips wrote:Food for thought from someone who's polished off the series: each of the central characters can be seen as a metaphor for justice. And one person mirrors "True justice" in the series, with every other character being, by degrees, a perversion of this ideal.
uc pseudonym wrote:[spoiler]Are you thinking of L as "true justice"? [/spoiler]
Fish and Chips wrote:[spoiler]No. L believes his ends justify his means. That is not true justice.[/spoiler]
bakura_fan wrote:I'm gonna throw my own guess out. [spoiler] I believe that might be matsuda. just from what i've read recently, he seems the best choice.[/spoiler]
Fish and Chips wrote:[spoiler]No. L believes his ends justify his means. That is not true justice.[/spoiler]
uc pseudonym wrote:[spoiler]Interesting. Who then? Personally, I would argue that the definition of justice is that your ends justify your means, but that's getting off the theoretical end. My first thought was L because he puts his ends (ie justice) before everything else, including human mores.
You could also make a case for Ryuk. I don't think that's who you mean, but think about it.[/spoiler]
Fish and Chips wrote:[spoiler]Soichiro Yagami.
He assumes innocence until proven guilty. He is tireless in his pursuit of justice. He is self-sacrificing. He obeys and is subject to the laws he defends and upholds, which he holds as universal; in the beginning, Kira only strikes down the filthiest of criminals. Plenty of people would write this off as good riddance to bad garbage. Soichiro recognizes evil for evil, even when committed against the refuse and darkness of humanity. Kira is not a vigilante, he is a murderer, and his growing influence over humanity will not change the character of his crimes.
And most importantly, Soichiro is human.[/spoiler]
nanikore wrote:That comes with an implication that "true justice" is somewhat naive and often does not prevail.
Fish and Chips wrote:Well, true justice doesn't necessarily have the best success tally.
As for naivety, I'd rather associate that with innocence until proven guilty, although this character was also left out of the loop a fair bit.
Fish and Chips wrote:Actually, it never occured to me either till I read a comment somewhere that the author had said as much in some kind of interview or questionnaire.
uc pseudonym wrote:Ah, he actually stated it? That explains why thinking about the series with that framework makes so much sense (disagree though we may about specifics).
[spoiler]In that case, what are we to make of his death mid-series? Is that symbolic of Light moving away from this ideal? At the time I expected the absence of his father to cause a major shift, but I don't recall one.[/spoiler]
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