ShatterheartArk (post: 1191208) wrote:I agree with ya Darkelfgirl. I was just telling someone the other day that I thought we had waaaay too many Naruto pics on CAA. Every time I log on I see more... >.<
minakichan (post: 1191968) wrote:....Disney incest?! how is that even possible...
I seriously think that lots of (not all) the fangirls into this whole forbidden love thing are just trying to feel mature and hardcore rebel-- essentially equating "unconventional" and "against social norms" to mean "liberal and open-minded." It really gets to the point that if you don't personally care to see two men make out, it must mean that you're a narrow-minded ignorant homophobic conformist bigot against social progress and human rights. I think that's much more closed-minded and unreasonable, but those are the kinds of people that are the hardest to reason with...
I consider Kingdom Hearts yaoi to be Disney slash, which is why I say, "No, you little fujoshi, you are NOT being mature and awesome and hardcore sexay rebel fringe by writing AkuRoku ero."
minakichan (post: 1192024) wrote:I actually saw a male Sakura (cardcaptor) at a con that I thought was veryyyy cute. I'm pretty sure he was there to scare people, but still. I still wholeheartedly believe that ugly people should be allowed to cosplay as beautiful people if they so choose (although I'm not so open-minded as to say that I won't be making comments in my head, unfortunately).
Eh, I think Light X L and Matt x Mello and Elricest and Ed X Roy have already pretty much conquered the respectable parts of their respective fandoms,
although perhaps not to the extent of NaruSasu on Naruto.
But this might be because I still subscribe to about a million Death Note comms on Live-"Freaking Fujoshi Base"-Journal.
Fish and Chips (post: 1191666) wrote:Again, I apologize, but your post comes off like a couple of people I could think of. There's a fair number of elitists who pride themselves on their underground tastes, and prefer it that way. "Mmm, nice and obscure for no weeaboos to touch."
It's a subject that's been on my mind recently
ShiroiHikari (post: 1192038) wrote:This bothers me too. If I like something that's obscure or not well-liked, I want more people to discover it.
mechana2015 (post: 1192067) wrote:I try to do similar things, mostly for the selfish reason of getting it popular enough to be published in the US on DVD or in manga form so I can get the highest quality copies of it.
minakichan (post: 1192024) wrote:I actually saw a male Sakura (cardcaptor) at a con that I thought was veryyyy cute. I'm pretty sure he was there to scare people, but still. I still wholeheartedly believe that ugly people should be allowed to cosplay as beautiful people if they so choose (although I'm not so open-minded as to say that I won't be making comments in my head, unfortunately).
minakichan wrote:Similarly, there's a lot of girls there nowadays who say they only read Death Note for the yaoi]
I've met these people before, but hearing about them still makes me die inside.Shadowalker wrote:I respectfully disagree based on my own experiences. The vast majority of the FMA fans that I've talked to consider Ed/Winry Rockwell to be the true main protagonist romance of the series (to the extent that there is one). Some folks I know joke about Ed and Mustang, but nobody that I know takes the idea seriously.
I've heard a few smatterings about Light and L, but most people I've talked to about Death Note do focus on the cat and mouse game, and the moral ideas and themes of the anime.
minakichan (post: 1191968) wrote:....Disney incest?! how is that even possible...
I seriously think that lots of (not all) the fangirls into this whole forbidden love thing are just trying to feel mature and hardcore rebel-- essentially equating "unconventional" and "against social norms" to mean "liberal and open-minded." It really gets to the point that if you don't personally care to see two men make out, it must mean that you're a narrow-minded ignorant homophobic conformist bigot against social progress and human rights. I think that's much more closed-minded and unreasonable, but those are the kinds of people that are the hardest to reason with...
I consider Kingdom Hearts yaoi to be Disney slash, which is why I say, "No, you little fujoshi, you are NOT being mature and awesome and hardcore sexay rebel fringe by writing AkuRoku ero."
Oh I have seen photos of this guy. It always makes me think of what would happen if Eddie Murphy was accidentally casted in Card Captor The Movie - Live. I also have another photo of him standing right next to male Chobits. The latter is a little harder to describe. XDminakichan (post: 1192024) wrote:I actually saw a male Sakura (cardcaptor) at a con that I thought was veryyyy cute. I'm pretty sure he was there to scare people, but still. I still wholeheartedly believe that ugly people should be allowed to cosplay as beautiful people if they so choose (although I'm not so open-minded as to say that I won't be making comments in my head, unfortunately).
Good for you, Shadowalker. Stay where you are. But in all fairness, perhaps Naruto X Sasuke is slightly encouraged, thanks to the mangaka himself. *glares at Kishimoto-san for yaoi bait*I respectfully submit that you probably spend most of your time on the better parts of the internet.
uc pseudonym (post: 1192115) wrote:I've met these people before, but hearing about them still makes me die inside.
I respectfully submit that you probably spend most of your time on the better parts of the internet.
Mave (post: 1192152) wrote:Oh I have seen photos of this guy. It always makes me think of what would happen if Eddie Murphy was accidentally casted in Card Captor The Movie - Live. I also have another photo of him standing right next to male Chobits. The latter is a little harder to describe. XD
Maybe I'm a little harsh on obese Sasuke and the likes, and apologize if I hurt any feelings in this matter. It still bothers me a little BUT in the end, I'd rather hang out with these cosplayers than those hardcore [unmentionable sexual perversion] fans.
Oh oh, speaking of "I thought Death Note was canon yaoi aka I've only read yaoi fan trash comics," that happened to me a long long time ago. I was introduced to Yu Yu Hakusho and googled it. I stumbled upon some doujinshi online (uh oh). I read it thinking that it was the official stuff and was totally shocked to learn that Hiei and Kurama were lovers. I think my heart almost stopped beating and my face went pale (I was only 14 then, folks). Something told me that this was wrong and the next day, I ran off to my friend to clarify this. "Is this true? Is this true? WAAAAAHHHHH??? Tell me it's NOT TRUEEE!!!!"
Of course, some of us know what the answer is. Welcome to the evil world of fandom, Mave.
Good for you, Shadowalker. Stay where you are. But in all fairness, perhaps Naruto X Sasuke is slightly encouraged, thanks to the mangaka himself. *glares at Kishimoto-san for yaoi bait*
Mave (post: 1192152) wrote:Oh I have seen photos of this guy. It always makes me think of what would happen if Eddie Murphy was accidentally casted in Card Captor The Movie - Live. I also have another photo of him standing right next to male Chobits. The latter is a little harder to describe. XD
Maybe I'm a little harsh on obese Sasuke and the likes, and apologize if I hurt any feelings in this matter. It still bothers me a little BUT in the end, I'd rather hang out with these cosplayers than those hardcore [unmentionable sexual perversion] fans.
Oh oh, speaking of "I thought Death Note was canon yaoi aka I've only read yaoi fan trash comics," that happened to me a long long time ago. I was introduced to Yu Yu Hakusho and googled it. I stumbled upon some doujinshi online (uh oh). I read it thinking that it was the official stuff and was totally shocked to learn that Hiei and Kurama were lovers. I think my heart almost stopped beating and my face went pale (I was only 14 then, folks). Something told me that this was wrong and the next day, I ran off to my friend to clarify this. "Is this true? Is this true? WAAAAAHHHHH??? Tell me it's NOT TRUEEE!!!!"
Of course, some of us know what the answer is. Welcome to the evil world of fandom, Mave.
Good for you, Shadowalker. Stay where you are. But in all fairness, perhaps Naruto X Sasuke is slightly encouraged, thanks to the mangaka himself. *glares at Kishimoto-san for yaoi bait*
Generally speaking, I search out sites where you can have mature, sensible discussions on anime where people have some respect for the canon material, yes. CAA itself is one such site.
Shadowalker (post: 1192032) wrote:Some folks I know joke about Ed and Mustang, but nobody that I know takes the idea seriously.
Fish and Chips (post: 1192194) wrote:I wish I could say the same.
My main issue with the majority of shippers is that platonic is a foreign language to them. Any two people even remotely connected (or not) are just fodder for some kind of bizarre fetish of theirs, regardless or even in spite of the author's intentions. That I'm also a "Canon nazi," our situation has not improved.
Shadowalker (post: 1192221) wrote:Were you actually called that (canon nazi)? If so... wow, a lot of these yaoi and yuri fangirls are severely disturbed for them to be using a term like "canon nazi". What do they think the canon is there for?
My main issue with the majority of shippers is that platonic is a foreign language to them. Any two people even remotely connected (or not) are just fodder for some kind of bizarre fetish of theirs, regardless or even in spite of the author's intentions. That I'm also a "Canon nazi," our situation has not improved.
Shadowalker (post: 1192154) wrote:Generally speaking, I search out sites where you can have mature, sensible discussions on anime where people have some respect for the canon material, yes. CAA itself is one such site.
Mr. SmartyPants (post: 1192257) wrote:Livejournal.com and Fanfiction.net
Prepare to have your worldview shattered.
Mave wrote:Good for you, Shadowalker. Stay where you are. But in all fairness, perhaps Naruto X Sasuke is slightly encouraged, thanks to the mangaka himself. *glares at Kishimoto-san for yaoi bait*
Fish and Chips wrote:My main issue with the majority of shippers is that platonic is a foreign language to them. Any two people even remotely connected (or not) are just fodder for some kind of bizarre fetish of theirs, regardless or even in spite of the author's intentions. That I'm also a "Canon nazi," our situation has not improved.
However, I'm willing to compromise on one point]
Indeed. To both statements, but principally the first. Unfortunately, our society is fairly anti-platonic in the first place.Shadowalker wrote:I mean, thanks to what I've heard on this thread, I'll probably make a point to avoid LiveJournal like the plague. If people here are just trying to warn me against it, then that's great - thanks for the heads up, and I'll stay away from it.
Shadowalker (post: 1192313) wrote:So, and I mean this with sincere polite curiousity... if people find these sites so offensive, why do they go to them? If you (and everytime I use "you" in this post, I'm using it in a general sense - it's not specific to Mr. SmartyPants) find the fanfics so offensive, why do you read them? I mean, being a fan of Series A doesn't obligate you to read fanfics of Series A - and if most fanfics of Series A are terribly weird to you in one way or another, why read them?
So, and I mean this with sincere polite curiousity... if people find these sites so offensive, why do they go to them?
uc pseudonym, I have heard some Naruto fans say that they feel that the characters of Naruto and Sasuke, as well as the interactions between them, have been impacted by fan commentary and even fanfics - that the manga/anime writer is actually altering the canon somewhat to please the fans. This is probably my biggest fear with one or more of my favourite series' getting extremely popular - it can end up being guided by the lowest common denominator (this is less of a fear with a series that is already finished, of course - hence why I don't mind if older favourites grow a lot in popularity, though that's not likely anyway) .
Azier wrote:Personally, I've never really understood this whole shonen ai/yaoi obsession that seems to overtake certain fandoms. And I've never understood why so many straight women and girls are so obsessed with it. Meh.
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