ChurchPunk (post: 1182116) wrote:That instantly reminded me of a friend(online) of mine, who mostly talks about dragons, her dragon form, etc. Kinda scary.. She also likes yaoi.
Bobtheduck (post: 1182930) wrote:Lolicon and furries... That's what bothers me. Hentai and Yaoi fans bother me too, but not as much...
kat-su-chan (post: 1189327) wrote:I don't really think it's a matter of bashing the english dub. This is kind of how I feel about sub vs dub and why I prefer sub.
First of all, I like the sub because I feel it's more authentic. Original language, less things are lost in translation and since it's definately Japanese, it just feels like it makes more sense and is better in Japanese.
Secondly, I find a lot of dubbed versions of animes become a lot more of a joke, a lot more appealing to all ages and moreso to younger kids. Because I find a lot of the time, a lot of people I come into contact with are like - you like cartoons? what? It's just a different culture in America and Canada, so cartoons are more childlike and often lose a lot of the original content. I don't know if that makes sense, but I feel like the maturity level and I don't mean in terms of content as far as nudity, sexuality or violence goes, moreso phsychologially and intellectually, is dropped vastly when in english as opposed to the original Japanese.
Thirdly, I love Japan and I study Japanese. So I like to watch it in Japanese because it helps my pronounciation because I'm used to hearing it. It's also fun to see how much I can figure out without reading the subs
I mean, this can even branch off into whether you like manga versions or anime versions better. because it's almost the same thing. If you're a purist you're going to say you like manga better because that's where it starts, then you like the Japanese original anime, because that's the next level down and then the dub the least because that's the farthest from the original.
Puguni (post: 1189120) wrote: :/ FYI, you are being the poster child of such snobbery.
Puguni (post: 1189120) wrote:Not so. Some people leave a fandom because once it becomes mainstream, perversion of the series becomes all too rampant. It's because of fangirls that I personally would leave a series, unless I liked it too much. Yes, rabid, senseless fangirls are enough to drive people away from a series.
And YES, I don't like lolicon/shotacon fans and especially how it's become more acceptable.
uc pseudonym (post: 1189206) wrote:One thought on the sub vs dub issue, not to anyone in particular: I've never understood how people who don't understand Japanese can advocate/oppose the Japanese voice actors so adamantly. The sentence cadence, the inflection on specific words... if you don't understand the language, none of that has any meaning. For that reason, I've never felt I can have an opinion on the subject. There are voice actors in both languages that annoy me, but other than that I find most of them just average.
ShatterheartArk (post: 1189293) wrote:I love how the sub vs dub people ignore it when the Japanese that make some anime even say the English is better....But if it makes you feel like a cooler anime fan to bash the English dub, go right ahead.
Puguni (post: 1189120) wrote:
I will stand by what I said earlier concerning girls in Japanese voice acting. I dislike how most of them are annoyingly high pitched.
Not so. Some people leave a fandom because once it becomes mainstream, perversion of the series becomes all too rampant. It's because of fangirls that I personally would leave a series, unless I liked it too much. Yes, rabid, senseless fangirls are enough to drive people away from a series.
And YES, I don't like lolicon/shotacon fans and especially how it's become more acceptable.
kat-su-chan wrote:If you're a purist you're going to say you like manga better because that's where it starts, then you like the Japanese original anime, because that's the next level down and then the dub the least because that's the farthest from the original.
Tyrel wrote:All that said, can you please give me some examples of series which are recognized by Japanese fans to have better dubbing in English?
Tyrel (post: 1189475) wrote::All that said, can you please give me some examples of series which are recognized by Japanese fans to have better dubbing in English?
kat-su-chan wrote:we can never truly bond by watching it together late into the night and giggling!!! (soap opera dramatics) because I will be on the other side of the country reading subtitles XP
uc pseudonym (post: 1189503) wrote:But here's the odd thing: you hate the Naruto dub, but it's generally considered one of the best. In terms of accuracy and quality, not how annoying the voices are. Frankly, I think the Japanese voices are just as irritating.
Another series I would submit: Cowboy Bebop. I watched some episodes subbed, some dubbed, both professionally. The dub changed lines and added things... and I think this is an improvement. While the dub is witty enough to keep my interest, in rewatching some of the same episodes subbed I found out a lot of the actual dialogue was rather bland.
For the record, I almost always watch subbed because I watch series currently airing in Japan.
Tyrel (post: 1189475) wrote:However, if you mean to say that a show having a certain amount of fans you don't happen to like, then I probably thoroughly {though respectfully} disagree with you. I think that's one of the silliest reasons to start or stop watching/reading/playing anything at all. I mean, I don't care who else is or isn't watching Ergo Proxy, I enjoyed it. I don't care who else does or doesn't watch Arthur in the morning on PBS, I like that show, and having younger siblings, it's the perfect weekday morning show. I don't care how many people like "Fruits Basket" That show almost killed me with only one episode, and nobody can convince me there is any real redeeming factor making it worth watching.
uc pseudonym (post: 1189503) wrote:For the record, I almost always watch subbed because I watch series currently airing in Japan.
" wrote:RustyClaymore 11:27 - Ah yes, Socks is the single raindrop responsible for the flood. XD
Tyrel (post: 1190041) wrote:You know... There are all these terms.. Cosplayers.. Furries.. fangirls...
I have to say, I don't actually know what all of them mean, and even the ones I kind of know, I don't really. Anyone care to explain what the different groups are?
Shadowalker (post: 1189454) wrote:OTOH, some animes have a less Japanese-centric feel to them. A lot of the magical girl and mecha animes are like this to me (i.e. it's not like magical girls or big giant robots aren't popular in North American culture as well), so I generally perfer to see them in English Dub format.
" wrote:RustyClaymore 11:27 - Ah yes, Socks is the single raindrop responsible for the flood. XD
Myoti (post: 1190100) wrote:Since 'furry' has been brought up (and most everything on the anime freaks has been mentioned):
Fans that insist on pointing out every 'furry' instance they manage to find in any video game, TV show, anime, book, or commercial, despite the fact that the creators of such things likely have nothing to do with (or even knowledge of) the furry 'fandom.'
KhakiBlueSocks (post: 1190107) wrote:You haven't seen the pictures of "Man-Faye" floating around the 'net, have you?
Debitt wrote:Your post wasn't directed at me, but I'm curious how having/not having seen Man-Faye bears any relevance to that particular definition of cosplayers. >>
ShiroiHikari (post: 1190060) wrote:This is totally off-topic but I just had to say it:
Mecha anime is probably one of the most unpopular anime genres in the US.
Nevertheless, I see your point. I'm something of a sub elitist myself, but sometimes dubs are just as good, if not better. I think those are the exception, though.
Anyway, all the perversion among anime fans frightens me, but that's already been talked about enough as is.
My pet peeve is-- surprise --people who write off all mecha anime as "just being about giant robots smashing each other". Maybe there are some series like that, but a lot of the time, the stories are more about the people piloting the mecha than the mecha themselves.
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