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Berserk
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Personally, I'm not a big fan of the Berserk anime. I haven't seen all of the anime because it only covers the part of the story that I don't like. So from what I know of the manga the review looks accurate.
It is worth noting that the anime ends at the worst possible place. They basically had to end it there, because what happens next is
[spoiler]that Skullknight (an incredibly important character in the manga that was taken out of the anime) jumps in and prevents Gattsu from dying. He and Casca both live, though she is mentally broken by the experience. As of the current manga, things still aren't resolved for any aspect.[/spoiler]
The rape is a lot more graphic there, as is most of the violence. But actually, this is the darkest arc. Afterward, things have gotten more light-hearted and I don't think we'll see another slaughter like that one. Gattsu still cleaves a few dozen people in half every few chapters, of course, so I'm speaking relatively.
CDLviking wrote:I almost liked this show, and then I saw the ending. Just evil.
It is worth noting that the anime ends at the worst possible place. They basically had to end it there, because what happens next is
[spoiler]that Skullknight (an incredibly important character in the manga that was taken out of the anime) jumps in and prevents Gattsu from dying. He and Casca both live, though she is mentally broken by the experience. As of the current manga, things still aren't resolved for any aspect.[/spoiler]
AnimeHeretic wrote:It did feel like it was getting darker though. I hear the manga is even darker still
The rape is a lot more graphic there, as is most of the violence. But actually, this is the darkest arc. Afterward, things have gotten more light-hearted and I don't think we'll see another slaughter like that one. Gattsu still cleaves a few dozen people in half every few chapters, of course, so I'm speaking relatively.
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That was the exact feeling I got. Thought I didnt actually see the orriginal beginning untill much later. Yeah, so ummm. Having a female character raped by some horde of demons pretty much broke the back of this one for me. Honestly, I probably should have shut if off a long time before.I almost liked this show, and then I saw the ending. Just evil.
It might be worth mentioning that the manga opens with a sex scene as well...
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According to Josh Christopher (The CAA member), the anime's ending isn't really the end, as the manga continues from the ending of the anime.
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kaji wrote:It might be worth mentioning that the manga opens with a sex scene as well...
A thoroughly pointless one, I might add. That more than anything else almost prevented me from reading the manga further than page two. It makes sense, however, as Berserk runs in what is essentially a soft-core porn magazine.
Mr. Smartypants wrote:According to Josh Christopher (The CAA member), the anime's ending isn't really the end, as the manga continues from the ending of the anime.
The anime's ending isn't even the beginning of the end, in fact. Just the end of the beginning.
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yeah. the manga's like over 30 volumes and still going strong. though the manga's a lot worse than the anime, it's a lot better. the story, the action sequences, the way the plot unfolds, and all the plot twists make berserk one of, if not, the best mangas ever.
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jon_jinn wrote:yeah. the manga's like over 30 volumes and still going strong. though the manga's a lot worse than the anime, it's a lot better. the story, the action sequences, the way the plot unfolds, and all the plot twists make berserk one of, if not, the best mangas ever.
You mean the content is "worse" right?
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Yeah I heard the manga really takes the story elsewhere.
I have pity for Beserk. I thought it was a great anime series.
Well except for of course the...
"water fight" scene
gay sex
demon rape
so if you can get past that...
I have pity for Beserk. I thought it was a great anime series.
Well except for of course the...
"water fight" scene
gay sex
demon rape
so if you can get past that...
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Jih wrote:You mean the content is "worse" right?
10:1 odds that's what he meant, yes. The anime ends before the story actually gets anywhere and removes some of the better elements. Almost everything that made me care about the series, actually.
Sheol777 wrote:"water fight" scene
Hm? I'm not sure what you mean.
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uc pseudonym - Posts: 15506
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um, ok.
It was early in the anime series. It was when Guts and Griffith were talking together and Griffith was completely naked...and they started frolicking in the water together.
Well, let me just say that if anyone walked in the room while I was watching this scene I think I would owe them an explanation..it would go something like....."NO THIS ISN'T YAOI!!"
It was early in the anime series. It was when Guts and Griffith were talking together and Griffith was completely naked...and they started frolicking in the water together.
Well, let me just say that if anyone walked in the room while I was watching this scene I think I would owe them an explanation..it would go something like....."NO THIS ISN'T YAOI!!"
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OH, I know the scene. That's the scene where GUtts and Griffith are both naked and throwing buckets of water on each other.
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Jih wrote:You mean the content is "worse" right?
yes. the CONTENT is worse, but the series is better.
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Regardless of my opinions on the topic, I think it might be best if we left off discussion of the relative stupidity of any given member and only continued posting here if there is specific discussion of the review.
Since I'm posting: thanks for specifying, Sheol777. I know what you mean now, it just didn't stick out enough for me to remember at first reference.
Since I'm posting: thanks for specifying, Sheol777. I know what you mean now, it just didn't stick out enough for me to remember at first reference.
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Jih wrote:...we're not that dense.
ouch.
okay, allow me to edit my post and you can proceed with your discussion as if i had never made that comment...
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"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
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"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul
"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
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"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther
"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
- Dr. Joseph Ton, the exiled Romanian pastor (quoted by James Montgomery Boice)
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"Sometimes we don't present the Gospel well enough for the non-elect to reject it."
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"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper
"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)
"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
- John Piper
"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper
"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul
"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll
"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther
"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
- Dr. Joseph Ton, the exiled Romanian pastor (quoted by James Montgomery Boice)
"The best prayer I ever prayed had enough sin in it to condemn the whole world."
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The series could have condensed to significantly fewer episodes though. I thought the animation was annoying in the way that the characters would attack or kill people and the camera would strafe up or down or across a still of that action.
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