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Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince Theories and Predictions
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:42 pm
by Mangafanatic
Don't ask me why, but suddenly I am going crazy awaiting the sixth Harry Potter Book (not to mention the Goblet of Fire movie, which is expected for release in November of
next year AHHH!!!), so I thought a great way to get rid of some of my Potter frenzy would be to swap around some "Half-blood Prince" theories and predictions with other Potter otakus. I guess we'll start by doing some form type questions and see what happens from there:
1) Who do you think the Half-Blood Prince is? If you have any specific reason why you believe that, list them.
2) Do you think any of our sixth year trio (Harry, Hermione, Ron) will get together in Half-Blood Prince(which will henceforth be referred to as HBP)? Why do you think that?
3) Do you think anyone's going to get the axe in HBP? If so, who?
4) Are there clues that you think finally come to fruition in a major
moment in this book. (Example: We'll find out that Harry has lazer vision!!!! I mean, come on! Why else would he wear those glasses except to protect someone from his searing gaze?)
5) If you have a pet theory you want to throw out, you can tack it on here.
If you've read any interviews with J.K. Rowling and you KNOW something-- please put it in spoilers. I know that might sound silly, but I don't want anyone hunting me down and strangling me for giving something away.
Also, if you have a good question, just list it with your reply or PM me, and I'll add it to our list. *Sits down, strangely calm, and anticipates replies and conversation. Yeah. . .*
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:07 pm
by soul alive
being a bit of a fan of the Harry Potter series (enough to have enjoyed reading the books, but not enough to be getting really excited about the next book), i have heard a few rumbles about HBP.
1)on the half-blood prince's identity:
[spoiler=HBP]according to some huge fans in my physics class, the half-blood prince is none other than Hagrid. it seems that his giantess mother was queen of the giants... [/spoiler]
seems like the most logical answer i have heard so far
2)it always seems to me like Ron and Hermione are on the edge of more then friendship, but would just rather argue...^^
3)i have heard mutterings (and that some people have bets going) as to whether Harry will actually be alive at the end of the series...
4)the only major thing i would like to see happen is for Harry to get over his 'angry/confused teen' stage - lol
PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:20 am
by Scribs
1. no idea, probably someone new.
2. no, probably not. they are just friends.
3. some one will die. I doubt it will be one of the major three. maybe Hagrid. mayber Snape, but I think he will be there in book seven so probably not. Nevil perhaps..
4. I think that Nevil will be very important in either this book or the next. Snape will probably have a major role too.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:26 am
by Cedahlia
I know that no one has posted for a while, but I can't wait for the next book either. ^^
1.) Most likely the peson that soul alive mentioned.
2.) Ron/Hermione. Harry and Hermione are both too serious (I know that sounds weird O.o). And I know that alot of people are hoping for Ginny/Nevil.
3.) Maybe Dumbledore will die. That would be sad...;-; But I am betting that a major character will die. Also...I think that maye...
4.) [spoiler] Sirius will come back to life! I cried and cried when he died (he was my favorite character)! I think this because the avada cadavra curse was the only curse that can kill, right? And they said that the light that flashed from the spell was red! Every other time that it had been used it was green! So maybe there is still hope! [/spoiler]
I also heard that Remus will probably play a major part in the book. I hope so. ^_^ I love James, Sirius, and Remus. (NOT Peter, of course!)
I hope that the fourth movie will be better than Azkaban. It was good, but they never even told you who the Marauders were! People who hadn't read the book would be confused. And the whole Firebold thing...>.>; *realizes she wrote alot* ^^; Sorry...
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:16 pm
by Mangafanatic
Cedahlia wrote:I know that no one has posted for a while, but I can't wait for the next book either. ^^
Yeah! A person as psyched as me. I'm so happy!
Well, since I haven't posted for real in this thread, I'll do this now.1) Who do you think the Half-Blood Prince is? If you have any specific reason why you believe that, list them.
1) Who do you think the Half-Blood Prince is? If you have any specific reason why you believe that, list them.
Krum. The man has to get out of the picture, and makin' him the Half-Blood would be a perfectly logical reason to push him out of Hermione's range of vision. Just my two cents.
2) Do you think any of our sixth year trio (Harry, Hermione, Ron) will get together in Half-Blood Prince(which will henceforth be referred to as HBP)? Why do you think that?
I think the Hermione-Ron thing is inevitable. I really wish it were Hermione-Harry, but Rowling doesn't seem to be liking this idea. (Actually, I was thinking about it the other day-- we have a perfect set up for a love triangle here. Oh, please let that
not happen. . .)
3) Do you think anyone's going to get the axe in HBP? If so, who?
I'm thinkin' Snape's gettin' the ax. And I wouldn't be sheddin' any tears, either. He's a bad man. ]Snape's a vampire. That man spends way too much time in the dungeon to not be a vampire. Just my thoughts.[/spoiler]
5) If you have a pet theory you want to throw out, you can tack it on here.
Well, I just my number 4 is a pet theory, so go read that one again.
Where are all our other Potter friends?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:48 pm
by Scribs
I wouldn't be suprised if Harry an Luna got together, She must have been introduced for no reason. In fact I would not be suprised if she were the halfblood prince, except that she is a girl. She could also get killed too. Something will happen to her.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 8:34 am
by Mangafanatic
piloswine wrote:I wouldn't be suprised if Harry an Luna got together, She must have been introduced for no reason. In fact I would not be suprised if she were the halfblood prince, except that she is a girl. She could also get killed too. Something will happen to her.
I've been hearing that alot of fan boards these days.
And yeah, I wouldn't be
shocked if Luna ended up getting together with Harry, but she'd have to change drastically for this to even be a possibility. Her current, somewhat goofy, character just isn't--- how shall I say it--- girlfriend material.
Honestly, my money's on Harry gettin' together with Jenny. Some of the stuff at the end of 5 has got me pretty sure of this.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:55 pm
by ZiP
I think if Snape was [SPOILER]A vampire[/SPOILER]
we would've had more clues.
Cedlhia sirius didn't [SPOILER]Die from the spell, it was falling through the vail that killed him, she didn't shoot the avada kadevara curse at him.[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER]Hagrid can't be the HBP, via JKR.[/SPOILER]
For that last spoiler I posted, here's some evidence:
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/MTarchives/005071.html
Here's a whole list of people who have been eliminated as HPBs:
[SPOILER] ELIMINATED (Alphabetized by Last Name)
• Bloody Baron: KNOWN TO BE BARON NOT PRINCE
• Regulus Black --- Known to be Pure-blood. Per OotP. Also confirmed dead and not coming back by JKR
• Sirius Black --- Known to be Pure-blood. Per OotP
• Colin Creevey - Known to be Muggle born per CoS
• Dennis Creevey - Known to be Muggle born per CoS
• Crookshanks - Not animagus per JKR site
• Dobby - Seems highly unlikely to be half blood of any kind
• Dudley Dursley - Per Edinburgh "He's just Dudley", Dursley's not to appear much in HBP
• Sir Nicholas de Mimsy: KNOWN TO BE KNIGHT NOT PRINCE
• Justin Finch Fletchley: NOT POSSIBLE. MUGGLE BORN PER JKR .
• Fat Friar: KNOWN TO BE FRIAR - UNLIKELY TO ALSO BE PRINCE
• Rubeus Hargrid: JKR confirmed he is not Prince
• Lee Jordan – generally felt as not possible
• Victor Krum --- per JKR, March 2004: "You will see Krum again, though not soon."
• Gilderoy Lockhart --- generally felt as too ludicrous, per unconfirmed Edinburgh report will not apear in future books.
• Neville Longbottom --- Known to be Pure-blood. Per CoS and OotP
• Ernie MacMillan -- Pure blood per JKR .
• Draco Malfoy --- NOT POSSIBLE PER JKR WEBSITE - SAYS HE IS A PUREBLOOD
• Theodore Nott --- NOT POSSIBLE PER JKR WEBSITE - SAYS HE IS A PUREBLOOD
• Peter Pettigrew--- Could not have appeared prior to end of PoA
• Harry Potter --- NOT POSSIBLE PER JKR WEBSITE
• James Potter --- Harry would also be Prince; Highly likely that he is pureblood
• Tom Riddle--- NOT POSSIBLE PER JKR WEBSITE
• Salazar Slytherin --- Pure Blood per OotP
• Dean Thomas - - Dean's story was sacrificed for Neville's per JKR site
• Lord Voldemort --- NOT POSSIBLE PER JKR WEBSITE
• Weasley Males --- Known to be Pure Blood[/SPOILER]
PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:33 pm
by madphilb
[quote="Mangafanatic"]And yeah, I wouldn't be shocked if Luna ended up getting together with Harry, but she'd have to change drastically for this to even be a possibility. Her current, somewhat goofy, character just isn't--- how shall I say it--- girlfriend material. ]
Honestly that's a tiny bit cruel..... not a "stylish" girlfriend I'll admit though... basically she's not "hero" girlfriend material. It'd be refreshing to have someone a bit odd in that position, if they really hit it off.....
More so I think we'll just see them as being friends, the kind that understand each other a bit.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:54 am
by Mangafanatic
madphilb wrote:Honestly that's a tiny bit cruel..... not a "stylish" girlfriend I'll admit though... basically she's not "hero" girlfriend material. It'd be refreshing to have someone a bit odd in that position, if they really hit it off.....
More so I think we'll just see them as being friends, the kind that understand each other a bit.
Opps. I didn't mean to be mean! I
love Luna! She's really one of my favorite characters. She's got so much personality.
What I meant was that I couldn't see how the throughly somber Harry that we see at the end of book 5 could end up with Luna unless something happened that made her a little more serious. I do see them being good friends in the future, though. Atleast-- I hope they become good friends. She's so funny!
PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:26 pm
by Scribs
I don't really like Luna. I find her to be too annoying. She will probably be a big role because she had to be intoduced for some reason.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:09 pm
by Cedahlia
O.o After seeing that long list that ZiP-san gave us, I think that a new character will probably be introduced to be the half-blood prince. But I refuse to give up on Sirius! >.< *stubborn sometimes* He can't be dead.
Somehow...all of my favorite characters seem to die...o.o; It is so weird; I have a looong list.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:56 pm
by ZiP
I think Sirius and Harry will be reunited, but I'm sceptical as to sirius' coming back.
Nick did say sirius would except death.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:01 pm
by Mangafanatic
Yeah, the whole conversation with Nick makes me think Rowling was trying to comfort us all concerning the definite death of Siruis. I'm not guaranteeing it, but right now I'm pretty sure that's the case.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:34 pm
by Scribs
I myself will be a bit annoyed if Sirius come back. Now calm down, don't hurt me! Far to often in books a main charachter will die and then miraculously come back. I find it a bit unrealistic. I mean come on! He fell through the big ominous curtain of death! If rowling brings him back she had better have a pretty good explaination.
I will say again that Neville will have a huge part in the outcome of the plot. Mark my words, that little weakling will do somthing drastic! I bet he will save Harrys life, or die for a good cause or somthing.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:12 pm
by Cedahlia
I really haven't read a whole lot of books in which an important person is brought back to life. Just seen it on soap operas. XD
I just thought of someone who isn't on the list! What about Remus? He is a werewolf, and, well, yeah. o.O Probably not.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:48 am
by merrick
i think neville is the hbp
and that hermione and ron are definitely going to get together, and that something is definitely going to happen between harry and luna, because at the end of phoenix, she was the only one that he didn't mind talking about sirius to, that he actually felt better after talking to her,
as for me i like the books better than the movies, i'm not saying that i don't like the movies, i do (it's nice having a face to go along with the character) but in the movie they leave out SOOOOOO many things...
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:54 pm
by ZiP
Neville can't be the HBP
[SPOILER]• Neville Longbottom --- Known to be Pure-blood. Per CoS and OotP[/SPOILER]
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:11 pm
by merrick
ZiP wrote:Neville can't be the HBP
[SPOILER]• Neville Longbottom --- Known to be Pure-blood. Per CoS and OotP[/SPOILER]
yeah, sorry
i forgot that, but he's going to do something important
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:10 pm
by Mangafanatic
piloswine wrote:I myself will be a bit annoyed if Sirius come back. Now calm down, don't hurt me! Far to often in books a main charachter will die and then miraculously come back. I find it a bit unrealistic. I mean come on! He fell through the big ominous curtain of death! If rowling brings him back she had better have a pretty good explaination.
I will say again that Neville will have a huge part in the outcome of the plot. Mark my words, that little weakling will do somthing drastic! I bet he will save Harrys life, or die for a good cause or somthing.
I agree! I think [spoiler] Neville will die in the end instead of Harry[/spoiler]
And, in addition to what you said concerning Sirius, if he comes back, why shouldn't the Potters and Luna's mother come back, too. Afterall, Luna made reference to haveing heard them beyond the vale. I just think Sirius is dead. 100% dead. (Plus, I don't think Rowling would do something so predictable as bring him back. It would be more surprising to most people if he really is dead.)
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:09 am
by Aka-chan
I believe Rowling said we'll be getting good reasons as to why Sirius died, so I agree that probably means he's quite beyond revival.
Mangafanatic wrote:1) Who do you think the Half-Blood Prince is? If you have any specific reason why you believe that, list them.
I read through the list, but I'm not seeing how [spoiler]Crookshanks[/spoiler] is not the hbp. Just because [spoiler]he's not an animagus doesn't really mean much. He's still half Kneazle.[/spoiler] I personally like that theory best because it's so whacked out.
2) Do you think any of our sixth year trio (Harry, Hermione, Ron) will get together in Half-Blood Prince(which will henceforth be referred to as HBP)? Why do you think that?
I'm a Ron/Hermoine fan for the canon (though I don't so much care for how the pairing gets portrayed in the fandom). It seems to be leaning that way too.
3) Do you think anyone's going to get the axe in HBP? If so, who?
Ghaaa...I have no idea. Some people are speculating that it'll be Ron, but I hope not. Not yet, at least. I like him.
4) Are there clues that you think finally come to fruition in a major
moment in this book. (Example: We'll find out that Harry has lazer vision!!!! I mean, come on! Why else would he wear those glasses except to protect someone from his searing gaze?)
Hrm...I'd like for Fred and George's prank stuff to be hugely important somehow. Not sure how that'll happen, though. [spoiler]And JKR specifically stated that Snape's no vampire...[/spoiler]
5) If you have a pet theory you want to throw out, you can tack it on here.
Not at the moment. I like reading other people's rather than making my own...
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:12 pm
by Mangafanatic
Aka-chan wrote: Some people are speculating that it'll be Ron, but I hope not. Not yet, at least. I like him.
See, I'm really scared that Hermione's gonna get it. Not her-- take anyone but her. She's too cool to kill off! Plus, she comes in handy in tough spots.
I guess that brings up a thought. If one of the Hogwarts Trio has to go, who would you want it to be. I'd have to say--- Ron. But that's only because Harry can't die yet or there would be no HP 7, as we know there will be, and I love Hermione. Honestly, I'm gonna sob my eyes out if any of them kick the bucket.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:23 pm
by ZiP
Tough one....... Ron, I guess.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:34 pm
by Scribs
Hermionie of course.
Ron's a good keeper, we can't let him go.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:40 pm
by Aka-chan
Kill of Harry at the end, I say. That teen rage at then end of book 5 (caps-lock-Harry! XD) really got me irritated at him.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:08 pm
by Mangafanatic
Aka-chan wrote:Kill of Harry at the end, I say. That teen rage at then end of book 5 (caps-lock-Harry! XD) really got me irritated at him.
I gave him a little slack for his behavior at the end of OotP. He'd been through alot. I'd hope I'd handle such a deep loss better than him, but I'd not putting money on it.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:30 pm
by Aka-chan
I know what you mean. I think it irritated me a little because he had sort of been "Saint Potter" up till then (in taking things as they come...do I make sense?), and then it all shattered. Sure, he's got an excuse, but it made me angry to see him yelling at Dumbledore especially like that.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:40 pm
by Mangafanatic
Aka-chan wrote:I know what you mean. I think it irritated me a little because he had sort of been "Saint Potter" up till then (in taking things as they come...do I make sense?), and then it all shattered. Sure, he's got an excuse, but it made me angry to see him yelling at Dumbledore especially like that.
Yeah, I felt sorry for Dumbledore, but I wasn't really mad at Harry. If the death of Sirius could make my sister cry when she was reading it, I can't imagaine how truly heart shattering it would be if you actually knew the man in person and he died. Furthermore, Harry had so long dreamed of going to live with Sirius that I think he was not just devistated by the loss of Sirius, he was also heartbroken at the realization that he would never have a home. IMHO, that was a loss worth being desolate over.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:47 pm
by Aka-chan
I didn't think of it that way. You've got a point.
Personally, though, I thought Dumbledore's collected response even to Harry's rages didn't make Harry look too great. Admittedly, there's quite a difference between their circumstances, but it still didn’t go off too well with me. *shrug*
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:54 pm
by Mangafanatic
Aka-chan wrote:Personally, though, I thought Dumbledore's collected response even to Harry's rages didn't make Harry look too great. Admittedly, there's quite a difference between their circumstances, but it still didn’t go off too well with me. *shrug*
Yeah. I wish he had gotten just a little ticked at him. Then I would have felt much better about the whole situation.
Okay, another question-- do you think [spoiler]the connection with Voldy[/spoiler] is gonna be a big deal in the future?