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Tim Burton may give Beauty the Alice treatment

Sci Fi Wire wrote:Alice in Wonderland broke box-office records, so Tim Burton can pretty much do whatever he wants for his next project. And what he wants to do next seems to be to turn the tale of Sleeping Beauty's evil queen into a live-action film, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

The project, to be titled Maleficent, could team Burton back up with Linda Woolverton, who wrote the Alice screenplay, as well as Disney's Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King. Woolverton's script would tell the fairy tale from the point of view of the self-proclaimed "Mistress of All Evil," offering a new take on a classic story, just as she did with Lewis Carroll's Alice.

Burton grew interested in the character from the 1959 animated classic Sleeping Beauty when he was in post-production on Alice, though both Disney and Burton have been trying to keep a lid on the project.

No deal has yet been made with Burton, but the hiring of Woolverton is the first step in moving ahead.

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Nate (post: 1383558) wrote:

LOL. That's so incredible. XD Also, when I saw this thread, I thought "Beauty" was in reference to "Beauty and the Beast," and I almost fell out of my chair. XD

Anyways, my thoughts on this are just that--"eh." Burton is just getting more and more played out by the day. XD

Radical Dreamer (post: 1383559) wrote:LOL. That's so incredible. XD Also, when I saw this thread, I thought "Beauty" was in reference to "Beauty and the Beast," and I almost fell out of my chair. XD

Anyways, my thoughts on this are just that--"eh." Burton is just getting more and more played out by the day. XD

I thought this was about Beauty and the Beast as well. I was not happy with this idea.

'Eh" pretty much sums up my feeling on this, even though Maleficent is a pretty sweet villain whom is probably better off with little to no back story.

Um. Okay.

I too thought Beauty and Beast. A Tim Burton verson of that would probably end up in Beast eating Belle. I'd see that movie.
This one could be interesting, but his films usually disapoint me so...

wildpurplechild (post: 1383601) wrote:I too thought Beauty and Beast. A Tim Burton verson of that would probably end up in Beast eating Belle. I'd see that movie.
This one could be interesting, but his films usually disapoint me so...

LOL!!! that's awesome XDDD

Actually, I'd LOVE to see some of the old fairy tells brought to life...especially Beauty and the Beast and Sleeping Beauty... All we've gotten most of the time is Snow White and Cinderella but nothing like those movies. It would be interesting.

I too, thought tat they were talking about Beauty and The Beast.. XD

Sleeping Beauty was my favorite animated movie when I was little...

I wouldn't be opposed to seeing different variations of classic fairy tales. They could certainly do a lot with a number of those stories. I would just prefer a director other than Tim Burton to be at the helm. XD Most everything Burton touches these days just kind of ends up reeking of his old and tired clichés. I'd really like to see a different, perhaps new, creative mind tackle some of the classic fairy tales instead. XD

I'm also glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought "Beauty and the Beast" and I was pretty much like man Disney already perfected that one, there's no need to try again.

I'm not opposed to this at all. Burton's one of my favorite directors and has never let me down. This at least gives Danny Elfman a new movie to write music to.

I thought Beauty and the Beast too but not the Disney one. There's a retelling of it by Robin McKinley called Beauty, and that's what I thought of. XD (Good book, by the way.)

Two things come to mind when I read this:

1) A certain Rammstein video that was inspired by Sleeping Beauty

2) I wonder if Johnny Deep will be playing all seven dwarves?

ShiroiHikari (post: 1383686) wrote:I thought Beauty and the Beast too but not the Disney one. There's a retelling of it by Robin McKinley called Beauty, and that's what I thought of. XD (Good book, by the way.)

Ditto! And I thought, "geez, I'm pretty sure Tim Burton would NOT be a good choice to direct the movie of Beauty..." lol.

I thought of Beauty and the Beast also, to throw one more in the pile.

Though, honestly, Alice wasn't that good, so I'm not that enthusiastic about another similar movie.

KagayakiWashi wrote:Burton's one of my favorite directors and has never let me down.

Wow, you weren't let down by Planet of the Apes?

Oh and in b4 "That wasn't really his movie!"

Hey, it's Maleficent. She's one of my favorite Disney villains. That alone will make me want to watch.

Peanut (post: 1383700) wrote:I wonder if Johnny Deep will be playing all seven dwarves?

The part of me that just took an entire class on fairy tales needs to say "that's Snow White, not Sleeping Beauty." XDD

The other part of me LOL'd. XDD

Still another part of me wonders if Burton, in his desire to stray from the original, will actually put seven dwarves in the Sleeping Beauty story. Oh dear. XD

Nate (post: 1383843) wrote:Wow, you weren't let down by Planet of the Apes?

Oh and in b4 "That wasn't really his movie!"

I'm one of the few beings on the planet that enjoyed Tim Burton's "Planet of the Apes". Sure it wasn't a great film, but I liked it, especially the ending.

I'd love to see the guy do something original :/

I really enjoyed Alice, so I'll keep an open mind about this type of adaptation, although I think they had more to work with for Alice.

I also had the Beauty and the Beast scare and Robin McKinley's Beauty is love.

I enjoyed the recent Alice movie as well (Give off the fact I wish it was PG-13) But when I first heard the news on this, I spazzed. I am truly curious as to what spin he can do with this fantastic villain. I did always feel a bit left in the dust when it came to Maleficent in the original movie.I felt like she should have had more room to develop her character, but there was not to much of that, so this does seem interesting...

And I do admit....I miss Tim's Original stuff as well.. ;_;

So would Johnny Depp would be prince charming or Maleficent? (yes I know Maleficent is a woman)

Makes sense, considering the original film's visual style is very expressionistic with dark undertones, and Burton's specialty has always been contemporary German Expressionism as processed through Gothic horror. It'll be interesting to see what Woolverton does with the possibility of this shift in narration and perspective, considering Sleeping Beauty has always been so sketchy from the rite of passage aspect of fairy tales. "There is no prince," says Alice in flat contradiction to the Disney sexual mythology promulgated by the source material from which this new project derives, albeit from a hostile perspective. As I commented on the ambiguity of older fairy tales in a footnote on my own brief analysis of Alice in Wonderland, "For example, is Little Briar-Rose of Sleeping Beauty asleep because her rite of passage is simply to passively accept male rescue, or is she asleep because her psychological defenses are so proactive trying to reach her is like cutting through an impenetrable thicket surrounding her castle?" (link) Interestingly, the closest parallel I can think in the realm of mythic archetypes is the story of a great Hindu king who after a great battle against the demon hordes, is granted his greatest wish, which is to fall into unending blissful rest. Then, in another epoch, the king is stirred by a playful ruse of the princely deity Krishna to defend against northern invaders, and upon awaking obliterates their leader with one look. What do we make of the narrative element of falling asleep at such a crucial defining moment in a young woman's life, and what business does the matrilineally powerful but patrilineally de-legitimized Maleficent have in putting the king's daughter to sleep? To be sure, at its best the original film is a beautiful allegory of Christ's rescue of his bride and kingdom from the eternal sleep of death in the resurrection, but the here and now aspects of this symbolism are far more contentious.

The eating of an orange is a lot like a good marriage.

When I first saw this thread, I thought it was about Beauty and the Beast, instead of Sleeping Beauty. I was like "whaaaaaat?"

Nate (post: 1393236) wrote:The eating of an orange is a lot like a good marriage.

To be sure, as one must peel away the surface layer to find the real person. In terms of the stories cited, the parallel elements stemming from a shared set of archetypes are the endless sleep, the princely rescuer, and an important discovery upon waking. If Briar-Rose has a kind of power in this state, it is in the displaced vagina dentata of the thorns surrounding her interior castle, which are being fought by the Prince's phallic sword. This is to say the young woman may have some bite to her, which is the symbolic source of psycho-sexual conflict. By contrast, the Hindu king's acquired power is revealed upon awakening, for he did not start out like this upon undergoing the sleep of the ages, and reemerges with deeper insight into the illusory nature of all things brought about by his savior Krishna.

GhostontheNet (post: 1393265) wrote:To be sure, as one must peel away the surface layer to find the real person. In terms of the stories cited, the parallel elements stemming from a shared set of archetypes are the endless sleep, the princely rescuer, and an important discovery upon waking. If Briar-Rose has a kind of power in this state, it is in the displaced vagina dentata of the thorns surrounding her interior castle, which are being fought by the Prince's phallic sword. This is to say the young woman may have some bite to her, which is the symbolic source of psycho-sexual conflict. By contrast, the Hindu king's acquired power is revealed upon awakening, for he did not start out like this upon undergoing the sleep of the ages, and reemerges with deeper insight into the illusory nature of all things brought about by his savior Krishna.

Cognitive Gear (post: 1393269) wrote:

Right, answer me with the image of the deadly chalice that kills everyone but the prince-hero. That's a great way to disprove a claim to archetypal imagery.

GhostontheNet (post: 1393265) wrote:To be sure, as one must peel away the surface layer to find the real person. In terms of the stories cited, the parallel elements stemming from a shared set of archetypes are the endless sleep, the princely rescuer, and an important discovery upon waking. If Briar-Rose has a kind of power in this state, it is in the displaced vagina dentata of the thorns surrounding her interior castle, which are being fought by the Prince's phallic sword. This is to say the young woman may have some bite to her, which is the symbolic source of psycho-sexual conflict. By contrast, the Hindu king's acquired power is revealed upon awakening, for he did not start out like this upon undergoing the sleep of the ages, and reemerges with deeper insight into the illusory nature of all things brought about by his savior Krishna.

anyways, back on topic,

I'm kinda curious to see what tim burton is going to do with this. I know everyhting he does is all dark and brooding. I basically just watch his movies for the creative sake. XD

I watched alice in wonderland pretty much just for the costumes, scenery, and other creative things they did. lol.

Perhaps you're posting your psychoanalytical meta-analysis of things to the wrong demographic here...

Cause uh... I don't think anyone really understands your perspective here.