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The last samurai

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:27 am
by The Shadow
it is deffinatly the best movie ever
The Last Samurai kicks.

it has all 3 catagoires of a movie
funny
romance
and kick but action

not to include the awsome long legth of time.

for an action movie i give it 9/10
for a movie an all i give it a 10/10

so who else reckons it kicks
what could of been made better
how do you rate it ?
please give me feed back >>>>>>>>> :P

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:50 am
by R. Zion
It sounds interesting, but I haven't seen it yet. The movie is set during the Boshin War, is it not? (If I'm thinking of the right name. If I did, thank Kenshin. ^_^x)

Hey, could someone PM the extent of and any particularly gory scene in the move?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:57 am
by Ssjjvash
Oh, yeah, this was an excellent movie!! I'd say an overall 9/10, if not a ten all together. It's been a while since I've seen it.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:53 am
by kaji
Well, though I really liked the story, and most of the acting was good… I just don’t like Tom Cruise…

It was a good movie, but not perfet, 7.5/10 from me. I would recommend this movie to most people. ;)

Caution: There is theatrical and war violence, but no real gore. Some alcohol use (the main character is a sort-of alcoholic). Some poor language, though this and the alcohol use is primarily in the beginning of the movie, it does serve a purpose in developing the main character later on. There is some partial nudity, but no sex. HURRAY for Hollywood making a movie with no sex!

-kaji

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:57 am
by gungrave
I agree man
one of the BEST movies
not only was it cool, it taught a lesson.
I have yet to figure that lesson out. lol

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:18 am
by K. Ayato
I enjoyed it all around. There is a romantic content, but no sex at all, which is a relief, seeing it's Tom Cruise as the leading actor. No offense to any Cruise fans out there (myself included), but it is a huge relief to see a movie with no sex in it whatsoever.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:05 am
by Sharon Rose
I've never seen it. But I've heard it's really good. Really, I don't need to see it, considering my cousin has told me all about it. I mean, everything...even the fighting scenes, those he didn't just tell me about, he literally acted them out for me. Screams, slashing sword scrape sound effects, swords piercing through flesh effects, heads being be-headed effects, rolling on the ground....the whole bit. Lol. :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:46 am
by CDLviking
I agree mostly with Kaji. The movie was very entertaining, but I wouldn't say it was good. Those are two different things. I also think that any movie with Tom Cruise could be made better by replacing him with a different actor. They should have just left his character out of the movie completely and just made a movie about the Japanese. Of course then Americans would probably never watch it. The plot was basically Dances with Wolves meets Japan, and the romance was contrived and cheep. Like I said, it wasn't a good movie, but I was entertained.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:10 pm
by Nate
Heh. A couple of reviews I read of the movie said they would've scored it higher if Tom Cruise hadn't been in it. They said it was one of those "Tom Cruise playing Tom Cruise playing..." type things.

I'm not a Tom Cruise fan, so I'll probably rent it. I'm sure it's entertaining, but it's probably not a ten/four stars/however you want to rate it.

Now, if you want to see a REALLY good samurai movie, pick up the classic Seven Samurai by Akira Kurosawa. Be sure to get the director's cut, though, as the non-director's cut removes too many scenes because most people would find them "boring." I thought that the whole movie was totally worth watching, and find it difficult to believe they would cut any of it out.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:29 pm
by The Shadow
yea tom cruise is a bit of a down full
but i still recon hes cool actor. though he does
soft movies and action movies the mission impossible
ones were pretty good.

any way i loved the ninjas in the last samurai i thought
that having them just MADE the movie. Ninjas are so cool
i think they could have used more shuriken though dont u think????

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:29 pm
by Hitokiri
Actually I disagree with the entire "Tom Cruise playing Tom Cruise" deal. I thought it was the other way around. He did a excellent job portraying that charatcer and the director didn't focus on Cruise but on the movie as a whole. And im not a big fan of the actor as it is.

I think it desevres a 8 or 9/10.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:08 pm
by CDLviking
I'd give it a 7 tops.

Now where is Zane so that he can disagree with me?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:33 pm
by Kisa
I loved this movie! We got it the day after we saw it ^^
Very awesome movie!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:46 pm
by Jeikobu
The Last Samurai is an excellent film and definitely one of my favorites. It's an American film yet very Japanese in many apsects. Very moving and entertaining and a must see. I am proud to own this one.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 3:21 pm
by Aka-chan
Very Americanized and highly unrealistic, in my opinion, but I also found it very beautiful. I just loved the scenery and how there were moments of peacefulness as well as battle, though it didn't strike me as genuinely Japanese. I did like it, though.

I agree with kae; if you're looking for a great REAL samurai movie, go for Seven Samurai. That was an awesome movie.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:40 pm
by The Shadow
apparently they put heaps of research in to make it authentic. i dont see where abouts it was unrealistic?????

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:16 pm
by Stephen
When I saw previews for it..I figured I would hate it. I am not the biggest fan of Cruise. But I must say I really did enjoy the film. I would give it a 7/10

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:23 pm
by c.t.,girl
when i saw the previews i thought, "i love sword fights!! i'm soooo gunna see it!!" i went to the movies to see it. i was so moved by it and in some parts i almost cried! ...but you guys didn't need to know that. ^^; i thought i was the best movie Tom Cruise has ever played in! i'd soo give this an 11 on my ratings! ^^ it's my favorite movie! oh and of course i own it since it came out on dvd! ^^ teehee!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:28 pm
by agasfas
Also not a big fan of Cruise, but none the less the movie rocked! Plot was solid, the action was good and the scenery/landscape was just beautiful. Beautiful? I hardly ever us that word but yes, it was just awesome. The only beef I have was about the ending... Everything always ends on a "happy note." But none-the-less, it ranks in my top 5 movies along w/ Forest Gump (no joke), grave of the fireflies and a few others. I would rate this about .... 8/10

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:36 pm
by indyrocker
I love the sword fights in there cuz theres not much defending and more countering and attacking! Tis movie has my favoret sword fight scean in it!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:54 pm
by TrigunX89
When I first saw the movie advertised, I was like, "Tom Cruise as a samurai? What the heck?" I thought it was the dumbest idea ever. But then I decided to watch it when my parents rented it, and I actually thought it was a great movie! Surprised me big time. But nobody else seemed to like it, and I thought I was the only one. I'm glad to see there are others who thought it was good too. It's only about $10 on DVD now. Maybe I'll have to get it some time.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 12:13 pm
by oro!
I watched it last year when it was in theaters. I actually liked it a whole lot, though it was sad/happy kinda end. I just love fighting and epics and japanese.
I have watched the Seven Samurai. Don't they have a game out for that? I watched it on the independet films channel. That one has quite a few good foreign films on it, if you cipher through it.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 12:33 pm
by Emanku
I saw the movie a while back and was awed by it. Last Samurai is an amazing movie in my opinion and that of my family . . . that's why I got the DVD of it as a Christmas gift to my parents.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 2:53 pm
by Aka-chan
The Shadow wrote:apparently they put heaps of research in to make it authentic. i dont see where abouts it was unrealistic?????

Perhaps unrealistic wasn't the best choice of words, though I can't think of a word to fit what I felt. I guess it just seemed really, really American. And there's also the fact (as one reviewer pointed out) that Cruise's character could have just as easily been portrayed as a traitor.

Oh, and about researching, the one thing they got wrong that drove me crazy was the thing about beheading the defeated general as he committed seppuku in honorable defeat. As a kaishakunin (second) for someone committing seppuku, you don't sever the head, but leave it hanging by the slightest amount of skin. Beheading is a disgrace reserved for criminals. *grrr*

Don't get me wrong, I really liked this movie, but I guess I'd describe it as overly romanticized. Entertaining, but not particularly historical.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:24 pm
by Pantakrator
Don't get me wrong, I love this movie, but it will never hold a candle to the likes of Braveheart, Black Hawk Down, Etc... To me TLS was more of a Gladiator in terms of history and actual quality. I.E. Very fun and entertaining, not meaningful and lasting. BTW, I picked up SE (2 disc) WS of TLS at my local music store for $5!?!?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 11:34 pm
by bigsleepj
I enjoyed the movie - it was one of the best epics I've seen and I'm VERY PICKY when it comes to epics. I just don't call any movie an epic (Troy and Pearl Harbor are good instances of failed epics).

The only place where the movie fails though is during the end when Tom Cruise speaks to the Emperor Meiji. Gaaaaaaaah! Literally in the last minutes the film implodes! Ack!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:28 am
by The Shadow
hahaha i thought the emoporers voice sounded pretty gay!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:42 am
by bigsleepj
The Shadow wrote:hahaha i thought the emoporers voice sounded pretty gay!!!!


It's not so much the Emperor's voice as the happenings in the entire scene, all which feels wrong - as if the producers felt they needed an upbeat ending. It all seems fake.