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BitTornado and routers?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:07 pm
by ShiroiHikari
my connection goes through a router, and I get crappy speeds on BT. how do I fix it?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:22 pm
by Mithrandir
I've never played with BitTornado, but some Bittorrent clients will not let you download from them if you are "freeloading." If your router is somehow not allowing traffic to get back to your box, it may be blocking it.

Sorry, that's all I can think of. :(

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 pm
by inkhana
I'm having this exact same trouble too. There wasn't a problem until I networked my computers (could get speeds up to 80k, usually) but now I can't get more than 5 on ANY torrent...*cries* I already did that "port forwarding" thing they recommended on the BT site, and shut down ZoneAlarm as a test, but it didn't work.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:13 pm
by Mr. SmartyPants
im on a wireless router too, and the seeds tend to be slow sometimes as well. Well actually seeds are people who keep a download running (even though its completed) becasue the more people downloading something, the faster it will go. So if there are no seeds but 10 leechers (people downloading something), the it'll go really slow. If there are 10 seeds but 1 leechers (you) the it would go fast.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:42 pm
by ShiroiHikari
I usually get a lot of seeds and peers but crappy speeds no matter what.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 12:02 pm
by ShiroiHikari
well, I've tried the port forwarding stuff and it seems like it's working a little better. I just would like to know what a WAN IP is.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 12:11 pm
by shooraijin
Context?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 12:15 pm
by ShiroiHikari
well, the instructions I was looking at said to find the "WAN IP" in your router config and plug that number into BitTornado...my router's firmware doesn't specify a "WAN IP".

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 12:18 pm
by shooraijin
Ah. That would be whatever your external IP address is, typically whatever your ISP assigned you.

If you don't know this, you may be on a DHCP-type system where your ISP hands you an IP address out of a pool. This may or may not change over time (so-called dynamic DSL or dynamic IP).

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 12:25 pm
by ShiroiHikari
ohh, okay. I think I've got it figured out then. thanks :]

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:21 pm
by Mr. SmartyPants
how does bittornado differ from bittorrent? is it much faster?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:29 pm
by ShiroiHikari
with bittornado, you can do stuff like throttle your upload speed, limit how many people can you can upload to at a time, and with later versions you can even pick and choose which files you want from the DL instead of having to DL the whole shabang.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:32 pm
by Kireihana
XD, I have a router connection too but I figured that BitTornado/BitTorrent speeds were always that slow. Well... I don't mind waiting a couple days for downloading. It's not like I have time to watch anyway during the school week. Whenever I try to interfere I end up messing everything up.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:36 pm
by ShiroiHikari
if any of you other router people want to try to get BT to work faster, try these links (thanks Inky!)

http://forums.degreez.net/viewtopic.php?t=1959

http://www.portforward.com/routers.htm

PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:13 pm
by Retten
Hmm its seems allot of people have problems with the whole network/torrent thing.
I've been on a network for about a year now (wireless for half that time) So I'll offer my advice :) First make sure your router and receiver have the latest firmware! (or just router if you don’t have wireless) Then you need to get a ip detecting app like IPFinder ( http://www.download.com/IP-Finder/3000-2085_4-9098229.html?tag=lst-0-1 ) now there are sites that tell you your ip and stuff but that’s the ip your isp gives you not your network ip. So d/l the app and then run it you should get something like 192.168.0.1 (the very last number changes for each comp and sometimes may even change on the same comp depending if your router goes out while your comp is off) now you can properly change the port forwarding on you router. So log in to router get to your port forwarding part and enter these ports to be forwarded 6881-6999 those are the normal BT ports now its going to also ask which ip you want these ports to be forwarded to so enter the ip you got earlier and that’s it. Now you need to make sure your BT app is using those same ports I don’t remember how Shadow’s experimental client worked (Bittornado) so you will have to figure that out yourself. I use ABC witch IMO is way better.

Now the trouble shooting section if that doesn’t make it work properly (as in you aren’t getting a green light). Find a really popular torrent that you know should have allot of ppl on it (check animesuki.com or downloadanime.org) and try that. If you get a green light now then you know that the torrent you were just d/l simply doesn’t have any remoter users on so no worry it will just take a little while longer to dl is all. Ok now if you still don’t get a green light after trying a couple different torrents then you may need to restart your network on both systems just unplug them and plug them back in (your router and receiver that is). Still no green light! Well also try rebooting. Finally check your ip again and make sure after all of that rebooting and restarting that is still the same as what you typed into your port forwarding section. If not go fix it lol. If none of that works well then um I got no clue what to do hehehe just try everything even changing your TCP settings.

NOTE: Very important make sure your windows firewall is off or BT definitely wont work well ( http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/ic_firewall.htm )

If you need help still or want me to walk you through it just pm me for my AIM/MSN. Good luck lol :thumb:

PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 7:57 am
by Mithrandir
There are much easier ways to figure out your IP than to do that, in my experience. PC: Just right click on your network icon on your desktop and select, "properties" then click find the IP tab. (it's different for every flavor of Win, so if someone wants to post simple directions for each, be my guest). On a mac with OS X you can just click on system preferences -> network and you'll see it right there. If you have some OS prior to 10, let me know and I'll post instructions for your OS. If you have linux, and you don't know about ifconfig, I'm certainly not going to tell you. ;)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 8:55 am
by Retten
Yeah that works to I just dont find it as convenient lol Actually what I said shouldn't be that hard at all I hope anyway 0_o you just have to download the program (or a similar one) click its icon (their is no installing) and hit resolve and there you have it!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:31 am
by Blurb
If you are having problems forwarding BT through the router you could always put your comp in the DMZ.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 8:09 am
by Mithrandir
We're talking about a *windows* box here. That's a two hour maximum time slot before getting hacked...

I'd say deal with the lag, man.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 2:13 pm
by Kaligraphic
IIRC, the average time for a stock Windows installation is 16 minutes to compromise. (of course, it's longer to patch)