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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:06 pm

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Postby shooraijin » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:26 pm

It's only a mockup, actually. I'm not terribly surprised since there were a lot of iMac ripoffs after the original Bondi Blue iMac emerged as well.
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Postby blkmage » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:44 pm

What I've come to realize is that all Apple imitations are uglier than if they hadn't tried.
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Postby Hitokiri » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:59 pm

So this isn't a mac but a pc, correct?
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:37 pm

indeed hitokiri, looks too much like the mac mini....
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Postby indyrocker » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:54 pm

to......small......to.....be......desktop......to...big......to...be....laptop....must SHOOT
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Postby shooraijin » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:18 pm

But it's not even real. It's a mockup, it doesn't even work, and Intel isn't going to manufacture them.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:17 am

i hope they don't manufacture it >_>
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Postby Mithrandir » Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:00 pm

Oh come on! Be nice everyone, afterall "Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery" right? :lol:

I'd like to see these, actually. I don't think they would compete directly with the Mac Mini, and I'd LOVE to reclaim some of my lost server space with a few bucks worth of small cheap hardware! The real questions are:
1. Can I mount it to the bottom of a shelf?
2. Can I put linux on it.

:lol:
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Postby shooraijin » Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:02 pm

I'd like to mount one to the bottom of a land mine.
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Postby Arnobius » Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:57 pm

Let me put that @#$% iPod mini there next to it.
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Postby Hitokiri » Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:27 pm

I'd be nice for those people who don't get along with Macs (like me...seriously, my mac for labs at school hate me!!!)
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:14 pm

thats why you use GOOD desktop PC's hitokiri

oldphilosopher wrote:Oh come on! Be nice everyone, afterall "Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery" right? :lol:

I'd like to see these, actually. I don't think they would compete directly with the Mac Mini, and I'd LOVE to reclaim some of my lost server space with a few bucks worth of small cheap hardware! The real questions are:
1. Can I mount it to the bottom of a shelf?
2. Can I put linux on it.

:lol:


ROFL ROFL ROFL! That seriously made my day

a-hem

would it even be worthy enough for linux? I'd buy one for the sole purpose of like.... using them for stands for gundam models or something... maybe... a door stopper... or a paper weight.... or for coasters! yeah! coasters! microsoft coasters! of course salvage parts like the ram cards, and harddrives, processors, drivers, put them in little protective cases, and sell em on ebay
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Postby blkmage » Sat Mar 05, 2005 7:24 am

They put linux on an iPod. What makes you think they can't put it on this? :)
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Postby shooraijin » Sat Mar 05, 2005 7:57 am

Do you have a URL? I'd like to see that.
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Postby blkmage » Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:43 am

http://ipodlinuxinstl.sourceforge.net/
Here's an installer for installing Linux to an iPod from a Mac. I think there's also a Windows version.

http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/feedback/linux_on_ipod/Linux_on_ipod_review.html
And here's a review.
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Postby Locke » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:22 am

wow, I'd hit that, but does it work with iPod mini on a PC?

on topic: What about shuttle pcs? theve been around for years. also Fraboxes have given PC users a small case with huge capabalitys.

I still dont understand why if they make a copy, thats how the industry works! ( for M$ anyways...)

It will fail horribly. =)
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Postby Debitt » Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:25 pm

Locke wrote:on topic: What about shuttle pcs? theve been around for years. also Fraboxes have given PC users a small case with huge capabalitys.

:lol: I'm actually sitting next to my brother's ShuttleX PC as I type this. I'm not the biggest PC buff out there, and I know next to nothing about the specifics of my brother's computer, BUT:

1. It runs Ragnarok Online very nicely (in fact, I think the graphics card in his Shuttle is better than the one in my tower) +
2. I've abused the hard drive space and it's still going strong. +
3. It takes up less space on the desk than my monitor does +
4. If my parents actually gave it to him for Christmas, it had to be pretty cheap ( :lol: my parents NEVER buy anything expensive) +
5. It has to sit on the desk with the cover off half the time, or it'll overheat and crash -
6. No room for speakers, only headphones. +/-
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:57 pm

youve never seen ipods with linux??? o_O

i oughta try that... if it'll play music that is XD
but i can't only 3gen, incompatiable with 4Gen right now

they also put linux on xboxes and such XD
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Postby Fsiphskilm » Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:41 am

Apple's
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Postby shooraijin » Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:52 am

I'm not sure what you're saying. After you get through asserting the mini is an inefficient design, why are you recommending similarly small PCs? Either the design works, or it doesn't.
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Postby Fsiphskilm » Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:05 am

Becuase the
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:16 am

the mac mini doesn't use laptop ram... it uses a standard full size PC2700 DDR RAM card... the same as any desktop
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Postby Fsiphskilm » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:23 pm

Yes, laptop ram
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Postby blkmage » Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:19 am

Everyone loves the Mac mini because it's a cheaper Mac.
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Postby Fsiphskilm » Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:32 am

Technic
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Postby shooraijin » Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:48 am

People don't see that, though. People just see the $499.

I'm sure Apple would love to sell those people an eMac anyway if they *did* figure it out. (By the way, it's $799 for the base model.)
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:08 am

for a mac mini with a 1.42 ghz processor, a gig of ram, 80 gig harddrive, bluetooth + airport extreme card, and keyboard and mouse.

$1,181.00

for an emac with a a 160 gig harddrive, 1.25ghz processor, 1 gig of ram airport card and bluetooth module, keyboard and mouse

$1,453.00

the thing is... the mac mini doesn't come with a monitor...

id still get it though... im sure i can find some monitor around or buy one for cheap. Even if its a CRT monitor
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Postby blkmage » Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:39 pm

Well, the Mac Mini looks simple, kind of like an iPod type thing.
On the other hand, the eMac was just an ugly iMac.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:01 pm

i got my issue of macworld today, it was comparing the mini mac (499 dollar one) to the dell dimension 2400 (399 dollar one)

basically, the cons of the mini mac were:
no display
no keyboard + mouse
harddrive runs at 4,200 RPM (dell is 7,200 RPM)
2 usb ports (dell dimension has 6)
processor is slower than dells (but i'd say that doesnt matter much, OS X tends to be faster than XP)

the cons of the dell were:
video card is not dedicated, as it uses the system's ram as well. Plus the card sucks. integrated extreme graphics thing.
a CELERON processor (ewwies)
no firewire port
dvd-rom is read only, not writable. (the mini mac has a combo drive (dvd-rom and cd-rw drive)
more crappirific software (internet explorer, wordperfect, paint shop pro trial, etc)
xp home, not pro (which you can change but the default is home)
no bluetooth and wireless adapter/card to start with.
warranty is 90 days, the mini mac's is 1 full year.
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