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Lamb of God

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:42 pm
by fairyprincess90
I heard some songs from Lamb of God and i was just wondering what you people thought of them. Do they have good messages in their songs?
and do you know anything about them...

thanks.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:36 pm
by GhostontheNet
fairyprincess90 wrote:I heard some songs from Lamb of God and i was just wondering what you people thought of them. Do they have good messages in their songs?
and do you know anything about them...

thanks.
If they have good messages in their songs, it is through the reverse avenue of exposing things that are ill:

5. The Black Dahlia

I am the ones & the zerosthat control commerce & file you silently far away.
I am the children starving in the gutter bellies full of unabated poverty.
I am nihilism no future base instinct realized environmental collapse.
I am life.
I am the corpse of decency crucified on a post of greed and moral decay.
I am man.
Submit & surrender unto Ceasar what is his rightful due.
Complete oppression no catharsis in emphatic contempt for all of life.
I am man.
( http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/lambofgod/newamericangospel.html#1 )
Seriously, you decide for yourself if this is what you're looking for : http://www.darklyrics.com/l/lambofgod.html . (Warning, language in both)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:59 pm
by GhostontheNet
On second thought, go introduce yourself to Saviour Machine, go and buy Saviour Machine I and II, and perhaps the Legend Trilogy it'll probably do you a lot better. http://www.myspace.com/saviourmachine . And, of course, I proudly play them on my station.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:21 pm
by Kkun
If you like Lamb of God's sound, there are plenty of Christian hardcore bands...and most hardcore kinda tends to sound the same.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:51 pm
by GhostontheNet
Kkun wrote:If you like Lamb of God's sound, there are plenty of Christian hardcore bands...and most hardcore kinda tends to sound the same.
To read their lyrics, its not exactly like what they have absolutely nothing useful to say - its more a result of their failing to understand the lamb of God of both the Gospels and Revelation's response to evil, and have concieved that the only possibility for justice emerges from their own acts of violence in the absense of the assurance that "Thus saith the Lord, Vengeance is mine, I will repay".

PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:21 am
by everdred12a
GhostontheNet wrote:If they have good messages in their songs, it is through the reverse avenue of exposing things that are ill:

5. The Black Dahlia

I am the ones & the zerosthat control commerce & file you silently far away.
I am the children starving in the gutter bellies full of unabated poverty.
I am nihilism no future base instinct realized environmental collapse.
I am life.
I am the corpse of decency crucified on a post of greed and moral decay.
I am man.
Submit & surrender unto Ceasar what is his rightful due.
Complete oppression no catharsis in emphatic contempt for all of life.
I am man.
( http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/lambofgod/newamericangospel.html#1 )
Seriously, you decide for yourself if this is what you're looking for : http://www.darklyrics.com/l/lambofgod.html . (Warning, language in both)

You can't really take the lyrics online for "New American Gospel" seriously. The lyrics in the book of that album and the lyrics that are actually on that album are different. I do like the album, though Lamb of God is definitely not a christian band, and their lyrics aren't very positive at all.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:51 am
by GhostontheNet
everdred12a wrote:You can't really take the lyrics online for "New American Gospel" seriously. The lyrics in the book of that album and the lyrics that are actually on that album are different. I do like the album, though Lamb of God is definitely not a christian band, and their lyrics aren't very positive at all.
I never actually made a judgement of those lyrics, placing them here for the combination of their lack of profanity and thematic consistency with other songs.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:11 am
by Hitokiri
Hahaha I never get tired of is "Lamb of God" christian? I remember going to Cedar Point with my youth group and a guy in one of the que lines had a Lamb of God shirt on and one of the people in our groups was like "Hey, look at his shirt! I never heard of that band before! He must be Christian!". I laughed and told them Lamb of God is a very non-christian band.

But I digress...

I like them. Not love them but I enjoy them.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:44 am
by Kkun
Hitokiri wrote:Hahaha I never get tired of is "Lamb of God" christian? I remember going to Cedar Point with my youth group and a guy in one of the que lines had a Lamb of God shirt on and one of the people in our groups was like "Hey, look at his shirt! I never heard of that band before! He must be Christian!". I laughed and told them Lamb of God is a very non-christian band.

But I digress...

I like them. Not love them but I enjoy them.


They aren't bad as far as metalcore/hardcore/variablecore/that bloated genre goes. I've heard that question a lot, too. It's funny.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:14 pm
by GhostontheNet
Kkun wrote:They aren't bad as far as metalcore/hardcore/variablecore/that bloated genre goes. I've heard that question a lot, too. It's funny.
I'm pretty much a detatched observer to all this, and I always wonder why they chose the imagery from John's Gospel and Revelation.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:32 pm
by Hitokiri
Kkun wrote:They aren't bad as far as metalcore/hardcore/variablecore/that bloated genre goes. I've heard that question a lot, too. It's funny.


Yeah. Metalcore and hardcore has become genericore and mediocrecore recently.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:19 pm
by GhostontheNet
Hitokiri wrote:Yeah. Metalcore and hardcore has become genericore and mediocrecore recently.
As one major metalhead at the Saviour Machine forums said, "Heavy metal is like an apple, you have to leave out the core."

PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:59 pm
by Kkun
Hitokiri wrote:Yeah. Metalcore and hardcore has become genericore and mediocrecore recently.


They really have. I'm all for some brutality occasionally, and Lord knows I love me some hardcore, but after a while, it kind of gets into the whole "diminishing returns" thing. You can only chugga-chugga-blast beat so many times.

I'd rather listen to some good ol' hard punk rock (a la Showbread/Refused/etc.) or grindcore nowadays on the heavy side of things. At least they know that they're just making noise.

ghostonthenet wrote:As one major metalhead at the Saviour Machine forums said, "Heavy metal is like an apple, you have to leave out the core."


You know, I honestly disagree with this. I don't claim to be a heavy metal fan at all, so I'm probably just biased but I think a lot of it is boring without some of the hardcore mixed in. I just think the genre (metalcore) as a whole has become so bloated that it's kind of hard to tell the difference between anything anymore.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:55 am
by GrubbTheFragger
Hitokiri wrote:Yeah. Metalcore and hardcore has become genericore and mediocrecore recently.


Yea hardcore bands suffer from the curse of writting the same sounding song over and over again. Only a few bands break from that curse.

Ghostonthenet wrote:As one major metalhead at the Saviour Machine forums said, "Heavy metal is like an apple, you have to leave out the core."


I have to side with Jamie with this. I really an not much of a "heavy metal" fan. I am more metalcore

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:19 pm
by Knives
fairyprincess90 wrote:I heard some songs from Lamb of God and i was just wondering what you people thought of them. Do they have good messages in their songs?
and do you know anything about them...

thanks.

Lyrically, they are probably not that great, because they have at least 3 cds with explicit stickers. Here is a review of them from a "not super conservative" christian website. http://wisemenpromotions.com/secular/lamb.html

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:01 pm
by GhostontheNet
Knives wrote:Lyrically, they are probably not that great, because they have at least 3 cds with explicit stickers. Here is a review of them from a "not super conservative" christian website. http://wisemenpromotions.com/secular/lamb.html
I really tend to question the whole "Explicit" thing being used like you use it. Its like the KMFDM album that responded to its "Explicit" sticker by posting the definitions:

Explicit:
1. fully and clearly expressed or demonstrated; leaving nothing merely implied; unequivocal:
2. clearly developed or formulated

Its a lot like the EBM band Tactical Sekt (subproject of an Aslan Faction member), whose "explicit" lyrics go something like this:

4 Steps to Dysfunction

2 point 4 kids riding in your Volvo
a Kodak moment for the world to share
mommy's in the kitchen, cooking up a pot pie
watching "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire"

Little Johnny's in his room loading up a 12 gauge
Jenny's in her room smoking crack
What happened to your precious little family now?
The devil slithered in when you turned your back

Step 1 - I want you to bleed for me
Step 2 - I want you to kill for the thrill of it
Step 3 - I want you to love the taste of murder
Step 4 - I want you to die

Thousands of people die every day
Thousands of people forgot to live
millions of dollars wasted on our egos
not enough money to buy salvation with

Always want to put your 2 cents in
always quick to snatch it right back
always b****ing about the state of the world today
but you can only see the world in white and black

2 point 4 kids getting on your nerves
2 point 4 kids to neglect
2 point 4 kids have no mind of their own
2 point 4 kids refuse to give respect

What's the matter mommy
What's the matter daddy
has mommy's little monster
took another gun to class

What's the matter mommy
What's the matter daddy
has daddy's little angel
grown up way too fast

What's the matter mommy
What's the matter daddy
Is mommy's little monster
giving you nightmares

What's the matter mommy
What's the matter daddy
has daddy's little angel
become an object of despair

Step 1 - I want you to bleed for me
Step 2 - I want you to kill for the thrill of it
Step 3 - I want you to love the taste of murder
Step 4 - I want you to die

What these lyrics certainly do not have anything to do with is "I want to break down the family and corrupt the youth into harmful lifestyles", if anything they are quite the opposite. They are however certainly extreme and "explicit" as the definitions posted above have it.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:16 am
by fairyprincess90
hmm... thanks for your help!!! yeah, i was always so confused with their name, i was like, LAMB OF GOD, hmmm. sounds christian. i never knew anything about them at all.
hmmm... so yeah. i guess i should stay away from them.
thanks again for your help

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:34 am
by fairyprincess90
what about As I Lay Dying and Underoath... i listen to them alot....
someone told me they werent christian.... i thought they were... and i just want to make sure...

if you know of any other good christian metal bands tell me! ^_^
thanks

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:38 am
by Kkun
Whoever told you they aren't is lying through their teeth or just plain ig'nant. Tim Lambesis is a really, really, really committed Christian.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:00 am
by fairyprincess90
thank you... thats what i thought.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:17 pm
by Eric
GhostontheNet wrote:As one major metalhead at the Saviour Machine forums said, "Heavy metal is like an apple, you have to leave out the core."

Couldn't be any truer.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:27 pm
by Animus Seed
Hitokiri wrote:Yeah. Metalcore and hardcore has become genericore and mediocrecore recently.


"Mediocrecore" is now my new favorite word.