CAA: Christian Anime Alliance

I'm pleased to announce that I've launched a Shoutcast Internet Radio station, which I have named Seraphim Radio: Sounds from the Crystal Sea. While nowhere near as large as I wish it is, I'm currently packing a mixture of Christian and secular Gothic and Industrial styles of music, as well as music with a Cyberpunk or Dystopian flavor. If you wish to give it a listen, feel free to drop by at http://www.loudcity.com/station/895.aspx or if that doesn't work http://www.shoutcast.com/directory/?s=seraphim+radio .

I added your station to my playlists (I am currently playing around with iTunes for the first time). I barely know anything about Gothic, Industrial, Cyberpunk, Dystopian music. So if you do not mind, I will occasionally listen to your station to understand and appreciate this genre.

Also, just to let you know, it has been streaming well with good quality on my end.

Omega Amen wrote:I added your station to my playlists (I am currently playing around with iTunes for the first time). I barely know anything about Gothic, Industrial, Cyberpunk, Dystopian music. So if you do not mind, I will occasionally listen to your station to understand and appreciate this genre.

Also, just to let you know, it has been streaming well with good quality on my end.

I have invented the genres "Cyberpunk" and "Dystopia" to try to describe the dramatically different ways film soundtrack writers and other artists express the Cyberpunk or Dystopian literary themes through music.

I hate to bump threads, but I'm kind of dissapointed I've gotten so little feedback, particularly from the forum goths.

Because I feel like it, I'm going to list the albums I'm spinning, as well as stuff likely to appear in the near future. Anything I've listed twice is because it fits two genres simultaneously.

Gothic

Prokekt Records : A Cat Shaped Hole in My Heart
Flaming Fish Records : Lunar Eclipse
Batzz in the Belfry : Batzz in the Belfry [EP]
Bauhaus : Crackle
Flaming Fish Records : Moonlight Cathedral
Asleep By Dawn Magazine Presents DJ Ferret's Underground Club Mix #1
Lycia : A Day in the Stark Corner
Frolic : To Dream, Perchance to Sleep
Faith and the Muse : Annwyn, Beneath the Waves
The Sisters of Mercy : First and Last and Always
The Sisters of Mercy : Floodland
Visionaire : Within the Arcanum Hall
Lycia : Estrella
Siouxsie and the Banshees : The Best of Sioxsie and the Banshees
Saviour Machine : Saviour Machine II
Joy Division : Closer
The Last Dance : Once Beautiful
The Awakening : Ethereal Menace
Beauty for Ashes : My Secret Sin
Projekt Records : The Projekt Records Almost Free CD
Clan of Xymox : Breaking Point
Dead Artist Syndrome : Devils, Angels, and Saints
Dead Artist Syndrome : Happy Hour
The Awakening : Sacrificial Etchings
Eva O : Demons Fall for an Angel's Kiss
Wyrmwood the Legacy : Strange Angels
We the Living Volume 3
Saviour Machine : Saviour Machine I
Faith and the Muse : Evidence of Heaven
Asleep By Dawn Magazine : DJ Ferret Presents Underground Club Mix #2
Dead Can Dance : Momento
Black Tape for a Blue Girl : Remnants of a Deeper Purity

Industrial

Mentallo & the Fixer : Where Angels Fear to Tread
Front Line Assembly : Epitaph
Cybershadow : The Birth of the Future
Mentallo & the Fixer : Love is the Law
Audio Paradox : The Iniquity of Time
Thoushaltnot : The White Beyond
Regenerator : War
Autovoice : A Living Death
Covenant : Skyshaper
VNV Nation : Futureperfect
Front Line Assembly : Implode
Aslan Faction : Sin-drome of Seperation
ThouShaltNot : You'll Wake Up Yesterday
Front Line Assembly : Civilizations
Front Line Assembly : Maniacal [EP]
ThouShaltNot : The Holiness of Now
Stromkern : Armageddon
Mentallo & the Fixer : Commandments for the Molecular Age
Skinny Puppy : The Greater Wrong of the Right
Mentallo & the Fixer : Burnt Beyond Recognition
Front Line Assembly : Artificial Soldier
Front Line Assembly : Everything Must Perish [EP]
RED+TEST : The Fall of Man

Electropop

Paradoxx : New Devotion
Paradoxx : Atomika
Thoushaltnot : The White Beyond
Covenant : Skyshaper
VNV Nation : Futureperfect
The Echoing Green : The Winter of Our Discontent
Adom9 : Deluge

Other

Wendy Carlos : Tales of Heaven and Hell
The Future Sound of London : Dead Cities
The Future Sound of London : My Kingdom [EP]
Delerium : Archives Volume 1
Delerium : Karma
Delerium : Poem
Delerium : Nuages du Monde

Coming Soon

Collide : Vortex (Gothic/Industrial)
Collide : Chasing the Ghost (Gothic/Industrial)
*Lunelac : ?????? (Gothic/Other)

* = Lunelac showed up at my myspace, friend requested me telling me how much they liked to listen in, and suggested I play more ethereal/shoegaze stuff, and offered to send me an album or two.

Coming Sometime or Other

http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/3CJY1R7EL99A3/002-2955449-0676817

I don't know much about these genres, but I'm listening to the station now and i like it. ^^ I think some of the bands and genres I like to listen to are influenced some by this sort of music....

I love the station...I actually bought the ThouShaltNot CD on Amazon thanks to your great suggestions ^_^ (The White Beyond one) I'm really starting to like Front Line Assembly a lot, too.

Sorry to not have commented earlier....I have been so busy that I haven't really been on CAA much at all

MorwenLaicoriel wrote:I don't know much about these genres, but I'm listening to the station now and i like it. ^^ I think some of the bands and genres I like to listen to are influenced some by this sort of music....

I'd be interested in knowing what bands and music styles in particular you have in mind. I tend to be a total junky for any music using a synthesizer myself.

PigtailsJazz wrote:I love the station...I actually bought the ThouShaltNot CD on Amazon thanks to your great suggestions ^_^ (The White Beyond one) I'm really starting to like Front Line Assembly a lot, too.

Sorry to not have commented earlier....I have been so busy that I haven't really been on CAA much at all

Hehehe, yes, Thoushaltnot royally kicks - in fact, I've gotten all of my good friends addicted. Yep, Front Line Assembly and all of Bill Leeb's of FLA's side projects like Delerium (for they are legion) are extremely well put together for their respective genres. If you ever pick up Front Line Assembly's Epitaph though, its a legal requirement that you also pick up The Future Sound of London's Dead Cities and My Kingdom [EP] and listen to them in close proximity.

Well, I'm a huge fan of Skillet, and some of their earlier albums (to be exact, Hey, You, I Love Your Soul, Invincible and Alien Youth) have been discribed as being 'Industral influenced" before...although to be honest, I'm not sure how close they actually are to the genre. XD Their newer albums are more on the grunge-rock side.

And one of the songs reminded me of another song, The Prodigy's Breathe With Me.

MorwenLaicoriel wrote:Well, I'm a huge fan of Skillet, and some of their earlier albums (to be exact, Hey, You, I Love Your Soul, Invincible and Alien Youth) have been discribed as being 'Industral influenced" before...although to be honest, I'm not sure how close they actually are to the genre. XD Their newer albums are more on the grunge-rock side.

And one of the songs reminded me of another song, The Prodigy's Breathe With Me.

Yes, I've heard Skillet a fair bit, Christianindustrial.net hosts a fair bit of songs in fact. I always tend to think of Skillet under the heading of heavy metal, although its quite obvious he's heard a fair bit of gothic and industrial music from which he adds little accents to his own music. You see, back in the 90's there was this phenomenon that bands like Marilyn Manson, Nine Inch Nails, Rammstein, etc., were taking elements from Industrial music like the beats, yet often dropped entirely the presence of synthesizers while playing guitar riffs in a heavy metal style that didn't even emulate machinery to give them mainstream sales. Obviously, the underground machine-aesthetic minded rivet-heads were none too happy about this, made worse by the going turncoat of Industrial music pioneers (even back in the days of beating on household appliances) KMFDM to the mainstream didn't make it any better. In Skillet's case however, he sticks close enough to his own genre enough to be comfortable to listen to, rather than "Arggh, my music has been robbed and molested."

hey cool! i like!

exactamente, I think Skillet is a good blend of styles without losing both a uniqueness of sound and without being a "borrowed band",

GhostontheNet wrote:Yes, I've heard Skillet a fair bit, Christianindustrial.net hosts a fair bit of songs in fact. I always tend to think of Skillet under the heading of heavy metal, although its quite obvious he's heard a fair bit of gothic and industrial music from which he adds little accents to his own music. You see, back in the 90's there was this phenomenon that bands like Marilyn Manson, Nine Inch Nails, Rammstein, etc., were taking elements from Industrial music like the beats, yet often dropped entirely the presence of synthesizers while playing guitar riffs in a heavy metal style that didn't even emulate machinery to give them mainstream sales. Obviously, the underground machine-aesthetic minded rivet-heads were none too happy about this, made worse by the going turncoat of Industrial music pioneers (even back in the days of beating on household appliances) KMFDM to the mainstream didn't make it any better. In Skillet's case however, he sticks close enough to his own genre enough to be comfortable to listen to, rather than "Arggh, my music has been robbed and molested."

Yeah, they're definately their own sort of genre...they have a tendancy to tweak each record's genre slightly. To the point that their newer stuff sounds radically different from their older stuff when you first hear it. xD

I do like getting to hear these more 'pure' examples, though. ^^

MorwenLaicoriel wrote:Yeah, they're definately their own sort of genre...they have a tendancy to tweak each record's genre slightly. To the point that their newer stuff sounds radically different from their older stuff when you first hear it. xD

Yep, I have to admit I liked Skillet's stuff, particularly the song Ripping Me Off which totally reversed the cliche anti-Christian metal songs.

I do like getting to hear these more 'pure' examples, though. ^^

Although in certain respects its good that Industrial music stays in the underground, its kind of pity that so many of the excellent performers just aren't well known. Whatever the rivalries between the ravers and the goths + rivetheads (cyperpunk vs. cyberprep cultures), I have yet to find any fans of techno that haven't liked Industrial and EBM (Electro-Body music) music when they hear it. The mere success of artists who took major elements from it also leads me to suspect that many metalheads would also like it if they had more access to it. Just you wait until I've got my hands on Stromkern ( http://www.myspace.com/stromkern ), Aslan Faction ( http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=79276293 ), Tactical Sekt ( http://www.myspace.com/uktacticalsekt ), Grendel ( http://www.myspace.com/grendel ), Skinny Puppy ( http://www.myspace.com/skinnypuppy , just ignore the posters), and the other stuff on my wish list - then things will really be awesome. For what its worth, if you don't mind things being harsh and abrasive (as most Metal fans I know of don't) and are looking for some Industrial music, I would pick up these three:

Audio Paradox : The Iniquity of Time
Front Line Assembly : Epitaph (remembering the required copurchase with The Future Sound of London's Dead Cities and My Kingdom [EP] - its not the law, but it should be)
Mentallo & the Fixer : Where Angels Fear to Tread

I'm looking forward to listening to this when I can get on a computer that has sound.

I never listened to gothic or anything. So I'm willing to give it a try right now.

That Dude wrote:I'm looking forward to listening to this when I can get on a computer that has sound.

And well you should, my fellow Industrial music fan, especially if your computer situation is roughly akin to my house where every new addition to the computer situations happens in about 3-6 months from the time of the original plan. I guess at my current rate that would mean I'd be playing somewhere between 52 and 64 CDs, assuming I don't impulsively splurge, and on the likely assumption that no benefactors contribute any.

Mr. Smartpants wrote:I never listened to gothic or anything. So I'm willing to give it a try right now.

So how was it?

I'll be honest. It's not my type of music. I didn't really enjoy it. The one song I was listening too "Collision" had a nice intro, but the rest I didn't like.

Mr. SmartyPants wrote:I'll be honest. It's not my type of music. I didn't really enjoy it. The one song I was listening too "Collision" had a nice intro, but the rest I didn't like.

Fair enough.

Oo I liked it. Its not what I generally listen to but thats mostly cause I haven't really looked into that style of music.

One band I do like alot that would fit well on your thingy is The Birthday Massacre. A very good Industrial/electronica Goth band Not Christian but still pretty good stuff. I especially like their song "Happy Birthday" and "Blue". You can hear both on their myspace. Highly recommended if you haven't heard of them already.

You're streaming very nicely. Well, I'm not goth or industrial but some of my best friends are goths , so I'll give it a try. I'll also pass it on.

listening to Savior Machine makes me happy, I have their "Live in Deutschland" cd
I've always been impressed with goth and industrial, in fact my friend who is a marine (artillery-he aims a big cannon SCARY!! ive seen a video of him blowing up a rusted truck up on a test range) and is in Iraq, there was this goth band, which he played for me when he was back in the states (though curse me for a fool I can't remember what their name was) he said they came and did a live concert for the troops while he was stationed there, he had nothing but good things to say about how supportive they were, how friendly and how willing they were to actually spend time with everyone one on one, unlike some "superstars" who show up and do a show and leave, anyways he has been hooked since and I really enjoy getting a wide view of different bands, its just not something I can dial my car radio to ya know?

I was directly controlling the station for about an hour and a half, so chances are the tunes flowed extra well. I haven't heard much of Birthday Massacre myself at all - I guess that means djdead of Tormented Radio doesn't like 'em. I am willing to play secular artists, provided they match all of two criteria:

1. They have something useful to say or are pleasantly neutral sounding in not saying anything useful.
2. They don't make it the defining point of their band to oppose Yeshua Christ - in other words, bands like Ministry and Psyclon Nine will not infect my station with faithless disease. I am however willing to play stuff from agnostic and atheistic artists, or any other religion for that matter, even if they produce songs criticizing my faith, provided they match to criteria one. In the endgame, it is my hope to help contribute to breaking down the walls of animosity between the goths and the rivetheads vs. the church, so that they can help learn from and teach each other, God willing.

Scarecrow: There's a lot of good stuff out there, only a fraction of which I own to broadcast. I will check out The Birthday Massacre.

HisaishiFan: So long as you do not make the lethal mistake of showing up to a gothic or rivet-head club in raver attire, you'll be alright. Myself, I like many, many kinds of music (I am in fact a music junky), a lot of which sits on the shelf because I know it doesn't mix in with the station. Thank you for passing on the word.

I know it was just a suggestion They are relatively unknown so I just like to throw them out whenever I meet someone who may like them

martinloyola wrote:listening to Savior Machine makes me happy, I have their "Live in Deutschland" cd

Yes, Saviour Machine makes me cry sometimes. For all the controversy Eric Clayton of Saviour Machine gathers to the point of basically being forsaken here in the 'States, there are many aspects of his music I wish we saw a lot more of in Christian music. Maybe if I get good with a synthesizer and singing (and many many other things), I'll do for darkwave/electro-goth what Chayton has done to gothic rock/progressive metal.

I've always been impressed with goth and industrial, in fact my friend who is a marine (artillery-he aims a big cannon SCARY!! ive seen a video of him blowing up a rusted truck up on a test range) and is in Iraq,

Marine, eh? I have a suspicion Grendel's Soilbleed isn't in his top twenty favorites (although with those who are in or were in armed service you never know what they really believe). If he believes in just war theory and that we should apply the same principles our country was founded on and has written in the constitution in dealing with the Iraqis, I'm cool with him though.

there was this goth band, which he played for me when he was back in the states (though curse me for a fool I can't remember what their name was)

Were they cool? What did they sound like?

he said they came and did a live concert for the troops while he was stationed there, he had nothing but good things to say about how supportive they were, how friendly and how willing they were to actually spend time with everyone one on one, unlike some "superstars" who show up and do a show and leave, anyways he has been hooked since and I really enjoy getting a wide view of different bands, its just not something I can dial my car radio to ya know?

Those are the definite advantages of both genres being derived from punk (which so emphasized audience involvement that the audience could jump on the stage too) and being underground genres. I guess with those "superstars" though is that they can't afford to get too close to their audiences, for their own sake, sadly. That's a definite upside of underground music, although the downside of course is that mainstream stations treat your music as a form of leprosy and will not touch it with a ten yard stick, no matter how low the quality of what they are playing. If you're a fan, you should also give Tormented Radio ( http://www.tormentedradio.com ) and Digital Gunfire ( http://www.digitalgunfire.com ) a listen.

Scarecrow wrote:I know it was just a suggestion They are relatively unknown so I just like to throw them out whenever I meet someone who may like them

Oh, I had heard of them long ago, but not actually heard them. That music ( http://www.myspace.com/thebirthdaymassacre ) is a lot like poisoned candy apples held in the hands of Bulleta/Baby Bonnie Hood from Darkstalkers - it is a lethally deceptively cute approach to a gothic/industrial/synthpop (all at the same time?) music. I think I like it, but I'm not entirely sure I really should, and not entirely sure its what I want to play, but I'll give it thought.

Were they cool? What did they sound like?

I believe the main track I heard the lead vocal was singing about an angel or something like that, he a had beautiful voice and their was some female accomp vocals I think, there was synth and guitars with some awesome prog riffs, it was written so well though that it didn't jar your ears ever and had me singing the tune to myself the rest of the day....yeah I know that's not a lot of help but they were pretty good , at least in my estimation

thanks for the links I'll check it out

martinloyola wrote:I believe the main track I heard the lead vocal was singing about an angel or something like that, he a had beautiful voice and their was some female accomp vocals I think, there was synth and guitars with some awesome prog riffs, it was written so well though that it didn't jar your ears ever and had me singing the tune to myself the rest of the day....yeah I know that's not a lot of help but they were pretty good , at least in my estimation

thanks for the links I'll check it out

Sounds wonderful, maybe you can contact your friend sometime and ask him who they were, and I can check it out. If I had to guess, the only groups that that sort of thing rings a bell for are Do You Believe in Angels? by The Last Dance or Winter Born or some other song by the Cruxshadows. Yeah, Digital Gunfire and Tormented Radio still kick my station's butt, the only things I have that they don't is a more diverse mix and Christian artists. Evidently at least 30 gigabytes of people like what I play though.

P.S. My station was down for a bit today because my bandwidth was exceeded (that's a good sign) but I've bought more bandwidth today so I'm back up.

Alright, The Echoing Green's The Winter of Our Discontent finally came in, and it is a synthpop album as cold and beautifully desolate as the winter months here in Colorado. I just wish it had the Wolfsheim remix like the Itunes version, although Heidi's song instead is also nice (if far less theological). Also, Aslan Faction should be coming over the next week, which will treat you to harsh vocoded screeching EBM.

Whoa, wait, you live in Colorado too? o.o; I completely missed that before.

Never mind, that's a question better taken up in private.