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Ok what christian metal bands are the most(or were) brutal and loudest. I other word what Christian band scare the most children

Mortal Treason takes my #1 on my list followed by August burns red, Soul Immbrace,Old Norma Jean, Zao, old UnderOath, and becoming the Archtype.

Virgin Black.

Now, now, Grubb, let's not forget one of the first fart-on-a-snare-drum-and-scream bands, grandaddy Living Sacrifice. Fasedown was brutal for their time, too. The Chariot has some of the most spastic stuff I've ever heard, and when they want to, The Showdown can kick your face, along with Zao.

The Chariot's Everything Is Alive is pretty brutal because of the lack of production. August Burns Red is good, old Underoath (new Underoath is pretty hard), Symphony In Peril, The Showdown (on occasion).

Oh wow i forgot the Chariot. I guess wasn't thinking

Skindred...if u can understand what they r saying XD..their song "The Beginning of Sorrows" is one whole quote from Jesus about the End of the World tho....but u have to look up the lyrics to understand them b/c they r like Reggae Rock. Thousand Foot Crush is kinda hard but I heard Demonhunter's really good...not sure if they're Christian or not tho.

Yes angel Demon Hunter is Christian. i don't think Skindred is thought.

There's always Blindside and my fav song "We're all gonna die" XD I love that song for some reason.

GrubbTheFragger wrote:Yes angel Demon Hunter is Christian. i don't think Skindred is thought.

Read the lyrics. They almost *have* to b.

I get mixed messages from Skindred. They could be. The lead vocalist sounds like he is anyway.

Um, The Agony Scene wins hand down, in my book anyway. Staple is pretty hard too, as well as Haste the Day.

While not a Christian band in the sense of any real subcultural community involvement (i.e. Cornerstone), if the criteria is harshness and ability to scare little children, I would say hands down the electro-industrial act Mentallo & the Fixer is the hardest in their albums like Where Angels Fear to Tread (my blog at http://ghostonthenet.wordpress.com has an in depth review), particularly in songs like Sacrilege and Bring to a Boil.

GhostontheNet wrote:While not a Christian band in the sense of any real subcultural community involvement (i.e. Cornerstone), if the criteria is harshness and ability to scare little children, I would say hands down the electro-industrial act Mentallo & the Fixer is the hardest in their albums like Where Angels Fear to Tread (my blog at http://ghostonthenet.wordpress.com has an in depth review), particularly in songs like Sacrilege and Bring to a Boil.

I think I want to check them out now because of that description about scaring little children.

Also, have we mentioned Zao yet?

Also, have we mentioned Zao yet?

Yep we did.

Um, The Agony Scene wins hand down

Are they still Christian?

Surprise, surprise! No one has mentioned even a single death or black metal band.

Pretty much any band in this thread I made is heavy; much heavier than anything else listed so far.

And The Agony Scene was never a Christian band. Also, Zao was only a Christian band when Shawn Jonas was with them; he was on the original All Else Failed and The Splinter Shards the Birth of Separation.

Eric wrote:Surprise, surprise! No one has mentioned even a single death or black metal band.

*sigh* Mortal treason is not only Black metal and Death metal (by the deffintion of myspace so who nows) and they are on your list as well Eric.

[quote="Eric"]Surprise, surprise! No one has mentioned even a single death or black metal band.

Pretty much any band in this thread I made is heavy] I notice you don't have any Mentallo & the Fixer in your CD collection so how would you know (although I do indeed suspect death metal would any surpass industrial music)? Still, albums like Where Angels Fear to Tread and Vengeance is Mine are definitely brutal in their own genre. I notice you've been a lot more fond of a lot of post-industrial music moreso than industrial music. Any reason why? I'd be surprised if you didn't like groups like Front Line Assembly, Mentallo & the Fixer, and Skinny Puppy.

GrubbTheFragger wrote:*sigh* Mortal treason is not only Black metal and Death metal (by the deffintion of myspace so who nows) and they are on your list as well Eric.

Well Mortal Treason was one of the better metalcore bands out there, and I had the pleasure of being able to see them in October of 2004 I believe, which is why they are on there.

GhostontheNet wrote:I notice you don't have any Mentallo & the Fixer in your CD collection so how would you know (although I do indeed suspect death metal would any surpass industrial music)? Still, albums like Where Angels Fear to Tread and Vengeance is Mine are definitely brutal in their own genre. I notice you've been a lot more fond of a lot of post-industrial music moreso than industrial music. Any reason why? I'd be surprised if you didn't like groups like Front Line Assembly, Mentallo & the Fixer, and Skinny Puppy.

Well I like some industrial death metal bands such as Hate, Scarve, Red Harvest, and The Amenta (my personal favorite), and although I haven't listened to very much industrial yet, I have listened to Mental Destruction and they are very excellent. I have also listened to a bit of Parca Pace and In Slaughter Natives, and several ambient projects that include industrial elements in their music, such as Desiderii Marginis, Raison D'etre, and Atrium Carceri (pretty much anything that is on Cold Meat Industry; they have a lot of excellent music).

[quote="Eric"]Well I like some industrial death metal bands such as Hate, Scarve, Red Harvest, and The Amenta (my personal favorite), and although I haven't listened to very much industrial yet, I have listened to Mental Destruction and they are very excellent. I have also listened to a bit of Parca Pace and In Slaughter Natives, and several ambient projects that include industrial elements in their music, such as Desiderii Marginis, Raison D'etre, and Atrium Carceri (pretty much anything that is on Cold Meat Industry] Well, a lot of industrial fans tend to hold that laying on the electric guitars too heavily (particularly if no synthesizers are used) crosses over the bridge from industrial music into simply heavy metal that uses a similar beat (particularly with the difficulty in making extended guitar riffs that accurately emulate machinery). You really owe it to yourself to check out the three bands I listed, they do some excellent electro-industrial. You should be able to pick these up at http://www.metropolis-records.com/

GrubbTheFragger wrote:*sigh* Mortal treason is not only Black metal and Death metal (by the deffintion of myspace so who nows) and they are on your list as well Eric.

Umm, Myspace allows the owner to classify their own music, so this means that they classify themselves as Black/Death metal.

I'd have to second August Burns Red, Norma Jean, Zao...As far as industrial and such...Argyle Park is on the more brutal end as well as Mortal's CD Nu-En-Jin.

That Dude wrote:I'd have to second August Burns Red, Norma Jean, Zao...As far as industrial and such...Argyle Park is on the more brutal end as well as Mortal's CD Nu-En-Jin.

I've heard Argyle Park, and they're nowhere near the degree of Mentallo & the Fixer or even Scott Clay's sideproject Brainchild (particularly Metamorphosis).

I've been out of the Christian Music scene for awhile. The hardest stuff I encountered was "No Innocent Victim" which is classified as Punk but sounds Hardcore metal to me. The only other ones I encountered were Vengeance Rising and Tourniquet, which were bands in the 90s and I don't know if they still exist.

Yeah I know that Argyle Park isn't to hard in the singing/music part but they are pretty dark and harsh...Though I do agree with you that some of Klay Scott's others are harder...I was thinking Circle Of Dust though.

That Dude wrote:Yeah I know that Argyle Park isn't to hard in the singing/music part but they are pretty dark and harsh...Though I do agree with you that some of Klay Scott's others are harder...I was thinking Circle Of Dust though.

The way Klay Scott in his sideproject Brainchild plays the audio sampled machine gun for beautifully poetic demonstration of the truth of God's word, particularly in Metamorphosis alone makes it the harshest of his stuff. Then again, I'm mostly familiar with the Disengage/Refractorism era Circle of Dust, being particularly fond of Refractor.

Old Underoath is very brutal. Mortification is also uber brutal...Zao's new CD seems really heavy, Mortal Treason is pretty heavy I guess, Showdown can be pretty hard , I think a band called Morbid sacrifice is pretty hard ( I havent actually heard them tho)

[quote="Eric"]Surprise, surprise! No one has mentioned even a single death or black metal band.

Pretty much any band in this thread I made is heavy]
Zao is still a christian band Eric. Read their lyrics.

Knives wrote:Zao is still a christian band Eric. Read their lyrics.

http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/interview-groupe-Zao_(VO)-id_inter-394-l-fr.html

Lets’ talk about religions now. Zao never hide its catholic behaviours. But what kind of faith do you practice ? Are you real catholics & go to church or is it more for you a kind of spiritual quest ?
No one is catholic. A couple members are christian, but it's more of a personal thing, we don't really put it in the music or the lyrics really. Even then, if it is, it's always more of an abstract way. You don't have to be christian to get stuff out of Zao's music. Not at all.

http://www.lordsofmetal.nl/showinterview.php?id=1385&lang=en

I heard Zao is touring North America with Demon Hunter this summer, aren't you afraid that touring with a big "Christian" metal band like them will bring up the old discussions again about Zao being Christian, or, as I understood happened lately, kids complaining that Zao is not Christian enough?
Eh, it's gonna happen anyway. So what the hell.We're friends with them. Don and Ryan Clark do all of Zao's record covers. We also know that there are a lot of fans of Zao's that are from the Christian scene… we have no problem with that. We are aware. We'll tour with Demon Hunter because they are nice guys and we know it will be a good tour. If Slayer asked us tomorrow we'd go out with them.The fact that the band isn't proclaiming itself as a "strictly Christian band" does not mean that we are ANTI-christian.

http://www.decoymusic.com/vb/showthread.php?p=60120#post60120

Has religion played a big part in your music?

Not really. Lyrically maybe a little bit, but it's not a major consideration in the overall project. ZAO originally started as a ministry band but those members left a long time ago and our mission and thoughts have changed as well since then.

http://www.decibelmagazine.com/features/jul2006/zao.aspx

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i'd have to say thousand foot krutch, their concert gave my friend a migraine