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pixiv: "A place where drawing becomes more enjoyable"
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:33 pm
by blkmage
Much (enough to be usable, but not all) of pixiv's interface is now in English, which means it's a fairly opportune time to introduce everyone to it.
What is pixiv?
pixiv is a Japanese online community focusing particularly on
illustration. DeviantArt is probably the closest English analogue to pixiv, although the focus on illustration means that things like photography won't be found on pixiv.
What can you find on pixiv?
pixiv, like analogous Japanese online communities, is the nexus for otaku and related communities. In particular:
Fanart. There's a ton of fanart for a lot of stuff (but mostly anime/gaming and related things) new and old. Newer things will trend towards things that are current, but there's always
the occasional super impressive nostalgic piece of art that shows up in the rankings.
Things on Nico Nico Douga. From what I can tell, the pixiv community and the Nico Nico Douga music community work fairly closely together. You'll often see a lot of PV and album art that's the work of artists on pixiv.
Original art. The rankings are dominated by fanart, but there is a good number of simply
good original art.
Amateur and doujin artists, producing both fanart and original art. You'll see a lot of them putting up previews of their wares at the next big doujin convention.
Professional artists. There are a fairly large number of professional illustrators, from mangaka to light novel illustrators.
How do I get started?
Since the basic navigation is all in English, the site is a lot easier to use. In order to view high-res illustrations, an artist's other works, and bookmarking features, you'll need to register an account. Unfortunately, this is a Japanese site, so most of the tags and comments will be in Japanese.
I've linked to my pixiv account in my sig so you can take a look at the illustrations I've bookmarked if you're interested in seeing more of the kind of stuff that's on pixiv.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:25 pm
by Rusty Claymore
I think I could spend my life there... o.o I may just get me an account...
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:06 pm
by Cadence
I think that I currently waste more time on pixiv than any other website I visit. It is kind of addictive. It makes me wish I had even a small degree of talent in the visual arts. =)
Also, how long has the basic navigation of the site been in English? I didn't notice it until logging in a few days ago, and I was pretty shocked...has it been like this for a while, or is it a new feature?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:35 pm
by blkmage
Yeah, the change happened within the last week, because a bunch of people on twitter were all like ENGLISH ON MY PIXIV MORE LIKELY THAN YOU THINK. Meanwhile, the pixiv iPhone app always had an English version, while their mobile version of the site is still in Japanese.
We should totally talk about awesome illustrations and artists in this thread. Like this awesome Pokemon 15th anniversary art which you will definitely need an account for, to view it in its full glory.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:26 pm
by Cadence
blkmage (post: 1463527) wrote:Yeah, the change happened within the last week
Ah ha. Good to know.
Like this awesome Pokemon 15th anniversary art
Wow.
which you will definitely need an account for
Just wow.
to view it in its full glory.
WOW. *mind explodes*
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:20 pm
by Wallachia
I did not expect to find Pixiv mentioned here. I suppose it's fairly innocent enough off the bat but if you make an account, it's easy for somebody curious enough to find too much.
Should this be up here? I realize there's an option in the account settings to avoid certain things but unlike places like DeviantArt, atleast half of Pixiv's entire database of artwork is filled with pages and pages of every single idea imaginable. No holds barred.
Unlike other artwork-centric websites, they don't have rules as to what can and can't be put up, so long as the uploader drew it.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:25 pm
by ShiroiHikari
I don't see what the big deal is. It's the internet, so I think most people know by now to be careful what you click on. If you think you might run into something you don't want to see, don't visit the site.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:48 pm
by Wallachia
It's far too easy for underage members to develop unhealthy fetishes and interests since Pixiv is a fairly comfortable and safe website. I don't mean general kinds either but everything is present here in many different and wildly imaginable forms.
Should we really be linking to a website that lets members view things (example: hardcore hentai with lolicon) that may not be legal? It's like posting a link to a forum that, once you sign up, gives you access to hardcore fetish-eccentric pornography of all kinds without the risk of ruining your computer by scouring random websites on google. Sure it's a person's choice to look at what they want, but here especially it's a bad idea to encourage people to get comfortable with a place that's essentially a two-sided coin.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:59 pm
by Nate
Wallachia wrote:unhealthy fetishes and interests
Who defines what an unhealthy fetish/interest is?
Should we really be linking to a website that lets members view things that may not be legal?
Guess what?
All fan art is technically illegal. In fact, know what? Did you get explicit written consent from Atlus and the Persona 3 creative team to use the likeness of their character as your avatar? That's illegal too, better change your avatar quick!
As far as content goes, they're drawings and the content of a drawing is not illegal by itself. Of course, that only holds in the US, dunno where you live.
EDIT: Canada apparently. Not sure of their laws regarding drawn content, actually.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:08 pm
by Wallachia
Nate (post: 1463715) wrote:Who defines what an unhealthy fetish/interest is?
I'd assume Guro, scat, cannibalism and things like that are.
Nate (post: 1463715) wrote:Guess what? All fan art is technically illegal. In fact, know what? Did you get explicit written consent from Atlus and the Persona 3 creative team to use the likeness of their character as your avatar? That's illegal too, better change your avatar quick!
As far as content goes, they're drawings and the content of a drawing is not illegal by itself. Of course, that only holds in the US, dunno where you live.
EDIT: Canada apparently. Not sure of their laws regarding drawn content, actually.
I was not referring to fanart as being illegal.
Any Hentai or Ecchi containing lolicon is considered illegal in Canada and is present there.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:10 pm
by goldenspines
After being a member of Pixiv for a while now, I have yet to run across anything worse than what I've seen on DA (with the filter on). Pixiv doesn't seem much
more of a danger than anything other image/art site. But this is not to say people should not be cautious; on the contrary, there's a good side and a bad side to most every site. We should always use discretion when we are exploring the world wide web. This should be a given.
Wallachia wrote: Should we really be linking to a website that lets members view things that may not be legal?
I am missing something here, I think. EDIT: Oops, posted too fast, you didn't mean fan art (which is illegal, as Nate mentioned, but there's fines lines about copyright stuff that is too complicated to get into here). What you mentioned is not illegal (in Japan and the US as far as I know, plus the site is Japanese). Is the best thing? No. Is it exactly was Pixiv is like? From my experience, no. In fact, I rarely see that sort of stuff on the site.
But if you are a member of Pixiv, Wallachia and you've continually run across the things you mentioned, then yes, a warning about the site (or any image site) is warranted. Or, people need to be educated about what search keywords to avoid.
On most image sites, it's usually not the best idea to use the "browse" feature too much if you're trying to stay away from certain things.
Otherwise, in response to the OP, Pixiv is one of the most extensive image sites I've seen with fan art as well as original art in the manga/anime style. It's also a nice resource for some fun crossover pictures of two or more different series.
Example:
[GRRR!!]/[く] EDIT: Found it.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:30 pm
by Nate
EDIT: I'm going to stop posting on these subjects though, it's off-topic and this thread should be focusing on the pictures and site, not moral debate. Just thought I'd say that I'm stopping myself before the mods tell me to stop.
EDIT 2: In fact I think I'll just go ahead and remove the rest of my post anyway, so nobody replies to it (hopefully) and this can get back to cool pictures on pixiv.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:36 pm
by Fish and Chips
This thread actually reminded me I had a Pivix account.
It's been awhile, but I'm fairly certain the safety filter's set to auto, so unless you're deliberately browsing uncensored, you shouldn't run into anything.
goldenspines (post: 1463720) wrote:I can't remember the artist on this, but I will find laters. D:
You'd best.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:05 pm
by Asuka Neko
Oh wow, I wasn't aware they put English on it! I wanted to get an account for a long time, but I can't speak or read Japanese, so I couldn't! Thanks for telling me!!
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:28 pm
by blkmage
Fish and Chips (post: 1463728) wrote:It's been awhile, but I'm fairly certain the safety filter's set to auto, so unless you're deliberately browsing uncensored, you shouldn't run into anything.
This. It's probably safer than, say, GIS.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:52 pm
by Mr. Hat'n'Clogs
So I registered, and while it's great to be able to view the pictures in their full-sized glory, do you guys run any searches through a translator before looking for stuff, or what?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:19 pm
by blkmage
Sometimes; I've gotten pretty good at recognizing/guessing things, and knowing a bit of hiragana/katakana definitely helps too.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:47 pm
by ShiroiHikari
I know katakana and hiragana, so...yeah. If you don't know the kana for something you can always try looking on Wikipedia, usually they have it.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:04 pm
by Wallachia
If you want translated tags, go here:
Pixiv Translation PlusYou'll need Firefox and the Greasemonkey add-on.
PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 5:45 pm
by blkmage
Looking through the rankings is a really good way for finding popular illustrations, but another excellent way of finding good stuff is to follow artists that you like. Let's talk about those.
VOFAN is one of the first illustrators I bothered to bookmark on pixiv and is still one of my absolute favourites. He's a Taiwanese illustrator who did the character design and illustration for Nisio Isin's Bakemonogatari light novels.
His style is really unique. The colours and lighting are pretty vibrant, but I think it's the lack of outlines that really distinguishes his stuff.
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 10:00 am
by primetech
Pixiv: What DeviantArt could have been. Although internationalization is usually a good thing, I seriously hope Americanizing it doesn't damage its mystic appeal as a quality, Japanese-exclusive site.
Just stirring the pot...
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 8:10 pm
by ABlipinTime
primetech (post: 1478069) wrote:Pixiv: What DeviantArt could have been. Although internationalization is usually a good thing, I seriously hope Americanizing it doesn't damage its mystic appeal as a quality, Japanese-exclusive site.
Just stirring the pot...
I wouldn't call it mystic (or I just don't know what exactly you're referring to), but yeah, I agree: Americanizing tends to color over things.
DA's a good outlet for us Americans (although sadly there are a great number of people on that site don't seem to have appropriate taste (and by that I mean modest/civil/pleasant, e.g. from a link on the homepage:
http://www.deviantart.com/#/d3g2k4s)). But this thread isn't about DA.
And now, a random post from pixiv:
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=3106738
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:06 am
by Nekomimi
I love pixiv, they've got a great mix of lovely & crack there ;D