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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8147170.stm

He recruited 64 volunteers to take part and each individual was asked to submerge their hand in a tub of freezing water for as long as possible while repeating a swear word of their choice.

They were then asked to repeat the experiment, this time using a more commonplace word that they would use to describe a table.

Despite their initial expectations, the researchers found that the volunteers were able to keep their hands plunged in the ice water for a longer period of time when repeating the swear word.

On average, the students could tolerate the pain for nearly two minutes when swearing compared with only one minute and 15 seconds when they refrained from using expletives.

However, the study also shows that if you swear frequently, the effect is lessened. So if you drop an f-bomb every other word in everyday speech, you won't get the benefit of the increased tolerance for pain.

Anyway, it's theorized that the way it works is when swearing, agression increases, which sort of downplays the threat, in a way.

So next time you hit yourself in the thumb with a hammer, let loose that R-rated language! You'll honestly be doing yourself a favor.

Shut yo' mouth!

Ahh, I see. Makes sense =w=;

I think I'll try to cut back on it in everyday speech then.

I bet it has to do with the sympathetic nervous system. If you tend to swear under moments of stress, your mind and body likely register swearing as indicative of a stressful state and respond accordingly. Your body "gears up" for a stressful situation and therefore the sensation of pain is somewhat dulled.

But hey, A&P was years ago.

.rai//

Too bad most people do it all the time, so it has no benefit to them.

XDDD I couldn't do that! I'd feel too bad about it in the end XD.

Seriously, whenever I accidentally cuss, (all my friends cuss like sailors so like once or twice a year I accidentally let out a word like that I) I kinda get really quiet and feel bad about it... :/

Although, if one looks at the "any word said out of anger is a swear word" then I guess... I'm guilty as charged Dx;

[quote="ChristianKitsune (post: 1330828)"]XDDD I couldn't do that! I'd feel too bad about it in the end XD.

Seriously, whenever I accidentally cuss, (all my friends cuss like sailors so like once or twice a year I accidentally let out a word like that I) I kinda get really quiet and feel bad about it... :/

Although, if one looks at the "any word said out of anger is a swear word" then I guess... I'm guilty as charged Dx]

So like, if I got really mad and for whatever reason deciced to shout, "FLÃœGELHORN!", that would count as swearing? How does that figure?
Don't take that the wrong way, I really wanna know.

I bet it has to do with the sympathetic nervous system. If you tend to swear under moments of stress, your mind and body likely register swearing as indicative of a stressful state and respond accordingly. Your body "gears up" for a stressful situation and therefore the sensation of pain is somewhat dulled.

Then in the experiement, wouldn't that depend on whether their sample regularly swore under stress?

(oh wait they were probably college kids)

So like, if I got really mad and for whatever reason deciced to shout, "FLÜGELHORN!", that would count as swearing? How does that figure?

.........I think I want to get into that habit.

You'll honestly be doing yourself a favor.

You may want to watch out for the favors you're doing your present company too.

Sorry, but if a car runs over my foot and I start swearing and a person is honestly more concerned about the words I'm saying than the fact that my foot just got run over by a car? I don't think I'd want to be friends with them anyway.

Understandable one both accounts ^^

Nate (post: 1330917) wrote:Sorry, but if a car runs over my foot and I start swearing and a person is honestly more concerned about the words I'm saying than the fact that my foot just got run over by a car? I don't think I'd want to be friends with them anyway.

XDD true.
I'm saying what I said from a personal standpoint.

I'd probably swear though if my foot got run over...or at least come REALLY close >_<
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So like, if I got really mad and for whatever reason deciced to shout, "FLÜ]

To be honest, I have no idea. I do know people who really believe that anything said out of Anger, (like OUCH, or DARNIT) are actually euphemisms.

I'm not saying I do though... but yeah. ^^; I'm not sure how serious this thread wants to go, and I don't want to risk debate here.

But this is an interesting article! I guess it really does make sense.

"FLÜGELHORN!"

This is gonna sound weird...

But I think I dreamt this thread o.o

-cue twilight zone music-

I have my own all-purpose euphamism.

Galznerking... Ok, so it's not all-purpose, it can only replace words that end in -ing.

When I was a kid I used alternate words all the time, but it never seemed to have quite the same effect as when I cussed. Of course, now as a matter of speech I'd really like to stop it. At least for the most part I leave the vowels out of the words.

Interesting...unfortunately, like almost everyone said, this really won't benefit most people at all. Since they constantly swear all the time, the power of the words is completely lost. Good going idiots. ._.;

Personally though, I can't really say I swear. In fact, I absolutely refuse to. The only time I'm willing to let loose is when I'm completely alone, otherwise I just feel rude and very...unladylike? ^^; I dunno, I just feel awkward about it and don't think it's very appropriate.

That said, I don't think swearing is remotely evil. To me, REAL evil talk is trying to hurt another person. Even if you're saying childish things to them (like calling them four eyes), if your intent is to cause pain and sadness? That's a swear to me. ._. Also don't approve of using the Lord's name all over the place, but that's a given.

Without bringing this into theological debate territory (or: making a hairpin turn away from it just long enough to flirt with its borders), I'd say swearing comfortably falls under both "Intention" and "To each man, let him live as he will." If you just burned your hand with the skillet, you're not swearing at anyone in particular, nor do you mean anyone harm or ill will. It's a reflex, an aggressive reaction. How you use it is the main factor, and it's important to be a responsible steward of our tongues.

I mean, Eric and I swear at each other all the time, but we're totally bros. I wish him a long, fruitful life under God's loving guidence (...In-).

Though now we should probably refrain the theological guessing games and stick to truly insightful posts like "Fluegelhorn."

Momo-P wrote:To me, REAL evil talk is trying to hurt another person. Even if you're saying childish things to them (like calling them four eyes), if your intent is to cause pain and sadness?

Your stance is backed up with Scripture as Jesus said anyone who calls his brother "fool" is in danger of the fires of Hell, and I don't think anyone here would classify the word "fool" as a swear word.

Also don't approve of using the Lord's name all over the place, but that's a given.

Oddly I hardly ever see anyone use the Lord's name. Most people just use "God." I think I'd probably do a double-take if anyone said His name. XD

With that said, all I have left to contribute is this Penny Arcade comic which oddly is very relevant to this thread:

http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/7/22/

The news post accompanying that one is particularly... eh... enlightening as well.

Oh yeah, Xbox Live has "frak" listed as a word that'll get you banned. I mean come ON.

In all honesty, I have a feeling this study would still work with any word, not just the "specified" swear words.
Using "Fluegelhorn" for example (since we've been using it in this thread already); if you said the word out of anger, frustration, pain, etc... in the place of a swear word after your foot gets run over (or whatnot), it may still retain the same pain relieving affect as a swear word. Plus, you might be laughing after you shouting "Fluegelhorn", and laughter is the best medicine.

Mary, you should read the study more closely. :p

The study did that, they had the participants first swear repeatedly when they put their hands in the ice water, and then they had the participants repeatedly say a word to describe a table. When they were swearing they were able to withstand the pain more.

I would venture to guess the reason WHY is because the swear words are commonly associated with anger, or extreme emotions. "Flugelhorn" might be a substitute word, but the body hasn't been conditioned to evoke the same emotional response when you hear it/say it, simply because you haven't heard it in those contexts. If a large number of people started using the world consistently, and had their kids hear it repeatedly while raising them, then the kids might be conditioned to associate that word with the emotional response. But we don't.

In other words, just using a substitute word isn't enough to fool your brain. Words have certain associations. You don't get hungry when you hear "diesel engine" and most people don't get sexually aroused by hearing "sewers." Those words aren't associated with those feelings, and likewise, flugelhorn isn't associated with anger or stress, even if you try to use it as such.

Nate (post: 1331039) wrote:Mary, you should read the study more closely. :p

The study did that, they had the participants first swear repeatedly when they put their hands in the ice water, and then they had the participants repeatedly say a word to describe a table. When they were swearing they were able to withstand the pain more.

I would venture to guess the reason WHY is because the swear words are commonly associated with anger, or extreme emotions. "Flugelhorn" might be a substitute word, but the body hasn't been conditioned to evoke the same emotional response when you hear it/say it, simply because you haven't heard it in those contexts. If a large number of people started using the world consistently, and had their kids hear it repeatedly while raising them, then the kids might be conditioned to associate that word with the emotional response. But we don't.

In other words, just using a substitute word isn't enough to fool your brain. Words have certain associations. You don't get hungry when you hear "diesel engine" and most people don't get sexually aroused by hearing "sewers." Those words aren't associated with those feelings, and likewise, flugelhorn isn't associated with anger or stress, even if you try to use it as such.

Ah, I must have missed that sentence in the study, I'm sorry. D:

That does make it more interesting.

There is a lot to be said for the social conditioning of words. They're not cursewords because we use them that way, they're curse words because they've been socially accepted as such (Although they get that way because we totally use them that way. It's like the chicken and the egg or somesuch).

Let's all start yelling FLÜGELHORN when we're **** off. If we get enough people here and use it enough, we'll condition the people around us to associate it as such. And then THEY'll use it and influence the people around THEM and we'll pretty much start a revolution.

It's a benefit to society.

Except for flugelhorn players.

Nate (post: 1331026) wrote:Oh yeah, Xbox Live has "frak" listed as a word that'll get you banned. I mean come ON.

I wonder if Frak from the Leaky Cauldron knows that... Poor Frak.

I get more mad and hurt when I curse hm......

That sucks for me cause I refuse to swear. At all. I've resolved to drop and do 100 if I ver do accidentally let one slip (Which I haven't so far) But you know what? I'm going to start yelling "Aaaaaaah... CTHULHU!" in place of a swear word where someone might use one and hopefully after a little while it will work like using one for pain.

Nate (post: 1331019) wrote:Your stance is backed up with Scripture as Jesus said anyone who calls his brother "fool" is in danger of the fires of Hell, and I don't think anyone here would classify the word "fool" as a swear word.

*lol* I totally forgot about that verse, but just to clarify, that passage was talking about random insults, wasn't it? Because I'm pretty sure calling someone foolish or a fool isn't sinful if they really did do something absolutely idiotic. I know someone who chose their abusive boyfriend over their own child. There's no way in heck I can NOT call that foolish.

Oddly I hardly ever see anyone use the Lord's name. Most people just use "God." I think I'd probably do a double-take if anyone said His name. XD

Well if somebody actually said His name, name, ya, I'm pretty sure even non-believers would look just as shocked and confused. XD