Do Different Worldviews Shape Cultural Entertainment-eg. Anime. If so,to what Extent?

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Postby Sammy Boy » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:47 am

Yamamaya (post: 1430836) wrote:How does fanservice automatically make void any ideals the main characters may hold?

Take action shounen shows for example. They have fanservice but the lead characters do tend to hold certain values such as protecting those important to you, standing up for the oppressed, etc.


I don't disagree with you on that, as my point was not about the characters in the anime titles, but rather the minds behind those titles.

What I originally was:

Sammy Boy wrote:Although this is not directly telling us something specific about the anime or cartoon title, I think it nonetheless informs us of the state of mind of the creators behind these titles.


For example, I was dismayed when watching Gravion that the creators decided to give the Tachibana character an unrealistic human anatomy. This kind of fanservice had nothing to do with the plot of the story and did not further character development in anyway. In fact, even though I wanted to find out what happened at the end of season one, I decided not to buy the season two series, simply because all reviews of it that I've read point to the fact that the second season only contained much more needless fanservice.

Yamamaya (post: 1430836) wrote:Also keep in mind that the majority of the western cartoons you mentioned are made strictly for a child audience. Kids aren't going to like fanservice. I do realize that a lot of anime titles are made for kids but the more heavy fanservice laden animes are made for an older audience.

The majority of Western cartoons made for an older audience tend to be comedies like South Park, Family Guy, King of the Hill, etc.


I agree, however (and perhaps this is just a problem in Australia), I find that the rating system when it comes to anime titles is problematic.

For example, the series based on the game, The Tower of Druaga, was rated 'M' with "moderate animated violence" for the first twelve episodes. It was an unpleasant surprise to notice other kinds of undesirable content besides violence in the episodes. On the other hand, when I watched Superman / Batman: Public Enemies, which had the same rating, I noticed that it was relatively milder. This could just be the review board not being thorough enough with the subject matter though (but I find that hard to believe, since the undesirable stuff in the anime was shown early on).

TWWK (post: 1430844) wrote:Spike does have that outward attitude, and he is deeply flawed. Buuuuut, his actions speak louder than his words, which I think is an important example that we can follow. He defends those closest to him, coming to the rescue of old friends and new ones alike. He keeps promises. And he goes after the villain.

He's deeply flawed, but has the strength and character to do what is right. And as the show starts, he's left his sinful life behind to pursue a better one.

On a slightly differe topic, in some ways, both Spike and Jet remind me of fathers. Jet is obviously - he's the teddy bear dad with the rough exterior. Spike, though, is the silent type who almost never lets his emotions show - you only get glimpses of it. He is fatherly, for instance, when Ed makes her final decision - he's melancholy, smokes a cigarette and downs a bunch of pickled eggs with Jet.


You are right, what I should have written was that he is someone who projects the "I don't care" attitude, when in fact his actions and behaviour states otherwise.

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Postby Mithrandir » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:05 pm

Imma chime in on the "hope" issue. Semantics, you understand.

Part of the issue here is the fact that there are multiple definitions for "hope" in English that aren't always in the original Hebrew. I've always read hope to mean "expect" and not "an emotion." Since it's a verb and not an emotion, it's a choice.

As in every facet of your life, emotions come to you, but reactions are choices. The wisest reactions are rarely easy (and the easy reactions even rarely wise.)
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